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Neil Young: After Facebook - "Days away from dropping social media platform" | NYA

In the latest development in Neil Young's long running battle against social media Goliath Facebook, Neil has announced that NYA is "Days away from dropping social media platform" on "After Facebook" | Times Contrarian | NYA.

In addition, it will cost nearly $20K to disengage from Facebook.

While no specifics were given, NYA will attempt to make the Facebook termination transition as easy possible for NYA fans.

As covered here previously on TW, Neil Young has been in a long running battle against Facebook -- most recently -- due to Facebook "screwing with our election".

This has all been very somewhat troubling for Neil Young fans, especially for those Rusties On Facebook, given the demise transfer of Rust@yahoo to Rust@Groups.

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Long time readers know quite well our own troubles here at Thrashers Wheat with Facebook, social media and Rust. But as we've urged Neil Young and many, many rusties, disengaging from the corrosive mega tech giants is the only option to avoid the brave, new dystopian Orwellian world and embrace the inevitable #BigShift.

In November 2019, Neil Young announced that "Facebook is Toast at NYA". And we said: "Congratulations Neil." Should've been done long ago. Facebook has been Toast to TW since 2015 and we could not be happier about it. (More below on the history of FB & TW. Short story: FB suspends TW and the long slide of FB begins. So note carefully Tech Giants like YouTube and Twitter.)

Writing on Times-Contrarian | NYA, Neil Young wrote that he will be discontinuing use of Facebook due to their "obvious commitments to one side of politics".

Again, this announcement comes as no big surprise given Neil Young's previous editorial statements about the Tech Giant's unethical and predatory behavior. (See Neil Young Calls Out Big Tech ... Yet Again) Just earlier this month, regarding "The Facebook Dilemma", Neil helpfully offered instructions on how to delete one's Facebook account. Likewise, TW helpfully offers a "How To" video on how to delete your Facebook account.

"It is not easy to disengage, but it is possible." - Neil

Mark Zuckerberg: Liar? Idiot? Or both?

FACEb**k: A Tool For Evil. Also, see Mark Zuckerberg: Liar? Idiot? Or both? (but we repeat ourselves ...)

NOTE: The following excerpts are from previous TW posts.

via Neil Young's Archives (NYA) Times-Contrarian

In 2018, on Neil Young's Archives (NYA) Times-Contrarian, author Phil Baker writes that Facebook's behavior is "worse than we had imagined".

"evil Facebook ... dangerous to our Democracy"
via Neil Young's Archives (NYA) Times-Contrarian

The NYA Times-Contrarian article goes on to urge fans to delete their Facebook account and submit their experience to NYA for publication consideration.

Thanks for listening Neil! Should've been done long ago. Here's our story below, which your team is well aware.

Short story: Mark Zuckerberg (CEO FACEBOOK): Liar? Idiot? Or Both?.

Earlier this year, we covered Neil Young's Big Decision On Archives: Facebook and Social Responsibility. Reaction was significant, with many Neil fans reporting similar experiences with the Great Social Media Whorehouse (sorry to offend whores).

A Facebook Nation of Liars & Whores
FACT: Facebook Delays, Denies and Deflects

In the parlance of our times, "fake news" is a fake construct designed to deflect from the actual, REAL truth. (See The Illusion of The Matrix Shatters: Corruption, Fake News & The Big Shift.)

The NYA Dilemma?

We all know that "The role of the artist is to make revolution irresistible." So once again, Neil Young speaks truth to power as he faces a "big decision" on access to his Archives due to Facebook's lack of social responsibility.

In a recent posing on NYA Times-Contrarian, Neil Young writes that:
"Censorship is a big responsibility and the Social Media Giant is seemingly not up to defending democracy, at least not yet."

The issue of tech giants and censorship has come up previously and it appears to have reached a cross-roads -- not just with Neil -- but with virtually all things internet related. In February, Neil Young wrote that tech giants rip off artists, who are being forced to distribute their music in the digital world. (And this is just one more reason why we sing this song because we love the man.)

And our advice to Mr. Young?

Ditch Facebook.

Ditch Facebook before Facebook ditches you, Neil. You'll be glad you did.


We'll go into that below.

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As long time Thrasher's Wheat readers know, we have had confrontations with Facebook over the years since being suspended in 2015. (See An Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg, CEO FACEBOOK and An Open Letter (#2) to Mark Zuckerberg, CEO FACEBOOK.)

Facebook: An Epic Orwellian Fail

Tech Giants, we the people, do NOT trust you. You guys have blocked us, shadow banned us, de-monetized us, de-platformed us, memory-holed us, and harassed/trolled us relentlessly. But all of your efforts have failed -- we're still standing. Enough.

Eyes Wide Shut, Mouth Closed

"They" have tried to take us down by canceling our advertising partnerships, or blocking our ability to run Google Ads, or hacking our Twitter account, or filing fraudulent transactions on our PayPal account, or disrupting the ISP service of our partner and Thrasher's Wheat Radio, or screwing around with our Amazon partner links, or jerking us around about Willie for a Nobel, capping our LIKES below 30K and unsub'g folks automatically, throttled our once robust reader comments eco-system suspending the Gigs for the Gulf page based on false copyright infringement claims, trying to make exposing environmental crimes a crime, disrupting freedom of speech and assembly, or humiliating and mocking our efforts when we try and stand up, algorithmic censorship to lower our rank off of Top 10 Search results or gaslighting us with "fake Neil news", sending in all sorts of trolls and spammers to disrupt the Neil community, or making exposing a war crime a war crime or blasting us with near Stuxnet-like levels of crippling attacks on our servers, dropped from Google News as a legitimate (non-fake) news source and on & on...

Is that the best you got? We're still here. Just remember, TW has been around longer than Google, Amazon or Facebook. The corruption on the highest floors will cease and Justice will triumph. The Truth and The Light will always prevail and overwhelm the darkest of the Darkness of Corruption.

Social media can often be seen as serving as the direct prophecy of George Orwell's 1984 novel's "Two Minutes of Hate".

(Note, if you found the above clip puzzling, "Watch The Dystopian World of 1984 Explained" on YouTube @ In George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Two Minutes' Hate is a daily period in which Party members of the society of Oceania must watch a film depicting the Party's enemies (notably Emmanuel Goldstein and his followers) and express their hatred for them.

In case anyone is interested, here is what Goldstein actually says in that scene (you can't make it out, cause the crowd is shouting over it, but that's what he says according to the subtitles)

"Nothing the Party says is true. Nothing the Party does is good. Even the war itself isn't real. The Party wants you to believe we are at war so as to channel your aggression away from their rightful target: the Party.

Big Brother is not real. He is pure fiction, created by the Party. The real rulers of the State are unknown, faceless manipulators who, because they are not known are able to wield power without let or hindrance. People of Oceania, you are being duped.

The Party doesn't serve the people — it serves itself.

We are not at war with Eurasia. You are being made into obedient, stupid slaves of the Party. Open your eyes. See the evil that is happening to you. The Party drops bombs on its own citizens.

It is the Party, not the Eurasians, who are our enemies."

"Open your eyes. See the evil that is happening to you.")

As usual, everyone supports freedom of speech -- as long as it aligns with their views and politics. It's an angry world but we won't quit...

ps - And "Thank You" Mr. Zuckerberg for suspending our FaceBook account, saving us from all of your FB troll-bot zombie hordes (not referring to rusties)! Or Mr. Z - Liar? Idiot? Or Both?.

"First they came for Thrasher's Wheat,
and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Neil Young fan.

Then they came for Alex Jones,
and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a white male conspiracy theorist.

Then they came for Oprah Winfrey,
and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a black female social justice warrior.

Then they came for Neil Young,
and I didn’t speak up, because I was Donald Trump voter.

Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me."
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Open up the tired eyes. Eyes wide shut, we tried to lay it all out very specifically just prior to the 2016 election. And then clarified any mis-understandings shortly after the 2016 election. And yet again at the 2018 mid-terms.

No fear... never stand down ... The Big Shift crushes it... wake up and open the Tired Eyes...

'She was welded to the eagle's beak
 sun green leaned into that megaphone
and said, "truth is all i seek" '

~~"Sun Green"
by Neil Young

ps - and if you still really want to know how we feel about all of this, we have all been here before, we have all been here before...

So don't do it Neil. Just say NO to Big Brother ... and especially Big Sister...

peace & love,
thrasher and thrashette

"In the *crystal ball*
The gypsy sees the villa
The riders on the hill
The fire in the >fields<"

"Eldorado" by Neil Young

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At 2/22/2020 04:58:00 PM, Blogger Muddy said...

I just checked the scripts that run on this page. is one of 12 different scripts associated with your page. Can you explain that?

I use an add-on called noscript, in Firefox, so access has been denied. Noscript operates as an opt-in, rather than opt out - so Facebook is not acquiring any data about me... here, as far as I know.

More commonly, I see on sites. It too, is excluded by not opting in. It's possible has been added to your site as a script without your knowledge. In any event, Facebook's spidery tentacles are more intrusive than many imagine. Thanks for keeping the flame burning for all things Neil.

At 2/22/2020 05:19:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks Muddy. busted.

surprised its only 12. we've cleaned up most of them since being vanquished by the ZuckerBeast. we'll have to to do some more housecleaning to scrub the scripts.

right, FB is definitely viral. funny, how FB made being viral cool.

yeah, viruses are so cool. so 20th century.

anyway, we just signed up :

peace & love & thanks for readin' & keep on rockin'!

At 2/22/2020 08:51:00 PM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

I’ve never had a Facebook account.


But ..... I’m sure they are still stocking me one way or another.

We are all in the same boat ever since social media started.

I probably shouldn’t have posted this.........🥴

Well anyway..... I’m off to prove I’m not a robot for the umpteenth time.



At 2/22/2020 09:18:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Neil. Chill bro.

At 2/23/2020 08:09:00 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

I do find it ironic that this article came up on my google news feed.

At 2/23/2020 08:20:00 AM, Blogger Kingjames52 said...

I believe it to be true Facebook has hacked my iPhone And my font settings are all dimed out, my font settings are CalifornianFB and I can’t prove I not a robot. I believe in my privacy and have kept my search settings in private in my safari reader. I wish I never had joined Facebook! Ever since I got the Facebook video app for .99 cents I have had issues with my iPhone! They don’t respect your privacy! I use to always use google plus for my social media at least google respects our privacy, I always used google plus for my social media and was sad to see it go inApril 2019 Big brother is real!

At 2/23/2020 11:35:00 AM, Blogger PreciousDust said...

Neil, God bless him, has always been a malcontent - he's unhappy with a lot of things, always. He doesn't like his neighbors, his band-members, musical formats, political leaders, and his fans, just to mention a few. Neil wants things done his way, and has pretty much zero tolerance for other peoples' points of view.

That's fine. Neil Young wrote Powderfinger, he wrote When You Dance, he wrote Ambulance Blues - and played and sang them like only he could. He's enriched the lives of anyone who has listened (and, through his influence, probably even those who haven't listened). I'll always be grateful.

Liberals sometimes think that political positions are broken up into two group - the ones they have, and lies. That opponents are "lying",and not just wrong, is not a possibility - the opponents lies (they say) are sitting right there, easy to see. It's not a mature point of view, but there it is. And Facebook should just "delete the lies", because we can all see the lies so clearly (imagine if we could, we'd never be fooled by them), and Zuckerburg must be some kind of evil person not to just snip those pesky lies away. That their political opponents would say that they are the ones who are lying is never a consideration.

Like all of us, Neil's not getting any younger, and it's a cinch to bet he's not getting any less cranky either. Thanks for everything, Neil, and long may you run (and all that).

At 2/23/2020 11:58:00 AM, Blogger Maxwell said...

Wow,this is great news! I didn't know Neil Young as still alive, I hadn't heard anything for 20 years.

At 2/23/2020 12:12:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

You should get out more.

At 2/23/2020 12:19:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

@ Dan - we do always appreciate your dropping by here @ TW.

On proving your not a robot for the umpteenth time - sorry on that. the irony is that the feature is there to protect those of us on the human highway from the robots.

sample and hold... now more than ever.


@ PreciousDust - yeah, Neil the malcontent. suppose he's been called much worse.

well, can you argue with the results? would ny be where is is now without all these traits? highly doubtful.

On NYA now, there's a version of "Campaigner" from Weld where Neil rattles off a bunch of names that have soul. The usual Nixon, Ali, & Marilyn Monroe.

Then onto Reagan, Bush, his Mom, JFK and more.

quite a slow jam - name check - tour de force.

check it @

At 2/23/2020 02:19:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Last comment is from an ignorant American obviously.

At 2/23/2020 08:30:00 PM, Blogger Steve Rust Downunder said...

In way it's odd Facebook can be your friend if managed with gloves on... great way to have new fans to keep informed on all things how will they find him. Type in Google? And get adds for albums ! Has Neil got a YouTube channel??

At 2/24/2020 12:09:00 AM, Blogger Devon Wayne said...

Wow. Drama queen. You need to go make friends IRL. What a boring article

At 2/24/2020 10:30:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Unknown 2/23/2020 comment: This appears to be hate speech. Every freedom comes with responsibilities and so does freedom of speech. If you do not meet these responsibilities, you might loose your freedom. So please, Thrasher, now that everybody has seen it, could you delete this comment?

At 2/24/2020 11:31:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

@ Dionys - thanks for flagging.

As stated on each post's comment section:
Please observe Comments Policy for Neil Young News.

Again freedom of speech does not mean you can falsely scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

So, yes, absolutely, freedom of speech here. But there is a line that can be crossed and that comment certainly went way over the line.


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