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Monday, June 07, 2010

"Look At Mother Nature On The Run In The 21st Century"

"Look At Mother Nature On The Run In The 21st Century"

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At 6/07/2010 06:39:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott fuckn BP dammit

At 6/07/2010 06:59:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

STOP sucking blood from the earth!

A terrible testament to human nature, government 'oversight' and the ramifications of 100 years of 'corporate' anf government policy. These events stem from the arrogant, misguided policies which have brought us temprorary growth past the industrial revolution to the present day mid-east entaglements of our nation. The loss of blood and treasure. Yeah, the advancement of society my butt. At what cost? and upon whose backs have we climbed? The robber barons have not gone away, just re-labelled themselves. BP=BIG PIG. We have met the enemy, and he is us.

Oh Mother Earth.............


At 6/07/2010 07:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

that picture makes we wanna puke.


At 6/07/2010 08:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People, connect the dots....

At 6/07/2010 09:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time to be the rain.

At 6/07/2010 11:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens with systematic deregulation and the elevation of free market libertarian laissez-faire capitalism.


At 6/07/2010 12:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

america america look what you have done

At 6/07/2010 12:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, man. It's gonna be a long walk home for sure now.

At 6/07/2010 01:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The loading has begun.

Time to start flying Mother Nature's
silver seed to a new home in the sun.

b4 its 2 late

At 6/07/2010 02:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teach your children well.


At 6/07/2010 02:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lessons to be drawn here are endless, and too numerous to go into right now, but the bottom line in terms of this isolated incident goes, and I didn't need this to happen to convince me, is that the time has long since come and gone for us to move away from oil use. It wouldn't have happened over night, but had we mobilized 10 years ago similar to the way we mobilized to go to the moon, we probably wouldn't be faced with this tragedy. Oil is expensive, and bad for the environment and human health, and you can throw coal into the equation here as well. Our dependence on foreign sources has led to corruption, violence/wars, assassination, and estrangement from much of the world due to our geo-political policies surrounding our economic needs- needs which in and of themselves need to be examined, but that is a whole other discussion. It should also be noted that alternatives over the years have been squashed in one way, shape or form, up to and including murder.

But in the end, this is all just symptomatic of the end of one age, and the start of a new one. The passage of one age to another is always accompanied by controlling forces trying to hold onto power and manipulation. Make no mistake, this was no accident. It is a staged event to cause fear, and more manipulation. I probably shouldn’t bring these things up, especially because there is no way to fully or adequately discuss everything involved, but as so many people are commenting these days, time is short, and I feel compelled to be that Lenny Bruce madman, telling everyone that we are “blowing it”, (“Said the Condor to the Praying Mantis, we’re gonna lose this place, just like we lost Atlantis. The gypsy told my fortune, she said that nothing showed”). IMO, we all need to take several steps back and reevaluate everything in our lives from the perspective of being at peace with the world and with life itself, despite everything that is clamoring to tear us apart (“On the empty page before you, you can fill in what you care. Try to make it new, before you go.”/”You can say the soul is gone, and close another door. Just be sure that yours is not the one.”).

I saw Nick Cage’s “Knowing” last year when it came out (check it out, I highly recommend it), and at the end of the movie I was thinking that the soundtrack should have had “After The Goldrush” playing. I proceeded to walk out of the matinee showing, only to find my eye filled not by the moon, but by the full ball of fire sun low in the winter sky. Then I got in the car, turned the CD player on and, you guessed it, “After The Goldrush” was playing. I don’t believe in accidents. I believe in synchronicity. Recent events only confirm this for me.

There are many ways to understand what is happening in the world today. For me it has run the gamut of Bible Prophecy, the Precession Of The Equinoxes, contemplation of a possible ET presence now and throughout history, the admonition to be wary of a worldwide hoax to deceive mankind into an ultimate manipulation, and much, much more. The truth is that I have yet to resolve all of these things in my mind. The bottom line, however, is that something very big and very important is happening in the world right before our eyes. Again IMO, if you have not woken up to this reality (and for most of Thrashers readership, they probably already have), it is high time you do. If this oil tragedy is the thing that finally stops people in their tracks, then maybe that’s the silver lining. But don’t be convinced by me or anyone else, find out for yourself.

At 6/07/2010 02:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I apologize for maybe making this into something else, but I have always known from the time I was very young that the world was headed in this direction, and that we would all one day be confronted with life’s ultimate challenges, but also life’s ultimate opportunities. This oil tragedy is hopefully serving to wake us up to the ultimate challenges, but they will only intensify from here on out. The only question is how will we react? Through our reactions we will either be further embittered, or empowered to transcend the profane, and accept all the gifts that are there to be had when we open up our hearts fully (“Love and only love will endure. Hate is everything you think it is. Love and only love will break it down. Love and only love./”Open up your eyes, see a lifetime fly. Open up and let the light back in. Open up your heart, let the loving start. Open up and let the light back in.”).

Neil’s music is why we are in contact with each other right now, and for myself and most of you I’m sure, it has been not only instructive, but a shelter from the storm of life. It has been prescient and foretelling in so many ways in terms of the life of the heart, as well as how we are to respond to the world around us. To those of you who worry that too many of us have and continue to make a god out of Neil, don’t worry, there is much, much more that instructs me in every way, and on every level, but I don’t think it’s inappropriate to have found comfort in a kindred soul. Well, now I really am blabbing, and back full circle to what moved me to write today. This oil situation is a wake up call. It needs to be dealt with summarily right here and right now, but don’t let it cloud your mind, make your heart impure, or paralyze your spirit. God really is in Its heaven, all around you, there to be seen in all Its glory, if only we will be vigilant and watchful. Search It out even in the midst of this confusion, and you will be safe and at peace no matter what is to come.

Finally, lately I have revisited the Hopi Prophecies, among many other things, and from what I can determine, the Hopi see this oil event as the fulfillment of the next to last of their prophecies. The remaining prophecy has to do with the appearance of a “blue star”. The reason I bring the Hopi up in particular, is because of their almost unique advice as to how we are to take all these events in, starting with the admonition to “Stay in the river”. For me this means to not get caught up with the chaos surrounding you on either bank, but instead stay in the river of life, it will guide you along and keep you safe, as long as you trust it and forsake your fear. They also admonish us not to point fingers, judge, or get angry. Rather, be at peace and trust life. For me this means that we are truly trying to look at life through a key hole, oblivious to the whole picture on the other side. This has to do with faith. Einstein said the fundamental question has to do with whether or not we view the Universe as a friendly place or not. Do we? My faith is that it will all work out in the end. Maybe I’m too insensitive to how hard it is to experience the down side of life, but as e.e. cummings wrote, “The being up is worth the coming down”.
Yes, I’m ranting, but I am moved to say these things to all my fellow Neil lovers, who may be feeling a little defeated at the moment. I love you all, and I wish you understanding and a peaceful heart through all of this, and all that is to come. Take care of yourselves.

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

At 6/07/2010 05:11:00 PM, Blogger doc said...

Luv the quoted lyric from "You and me" Greg M...still my favourite recent output from the Neil juggarnaut

doc,....A dreamin' fan

At 6/07/2010 05:37:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The BP boycott on FB now has almost 500,000 members.

And it might be working. I was coming home today and passed a BP station in Tampa with no customers.

At 6/07/2010 06:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tomorrow is World Ocean Day.

Volunteer. I'm going to try and makes some folks aware in my town.

Holly, Cape Canaveral

At 6/07/2010 06:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Never let a serious crisis go to waste…it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do before.” Rohm Emanuel
Why isn't everyone doing everything to keep this spill from becoming the worst spill in history?Except all the help offered from other Countries and get the tankers there! Where is the full force of the Federal Government? WTF! We cannot let this continue till August!

At 6/07/2010 06:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 6:23, you are right. I've seen oil industry engineers explaining that the oil can be pumped out of the water just as fast as it's leaking in. There are also micro-organisms that digest the oil, and then die off harmlessly. On top of the water straw can be used, and then burned as bio fuel. There is no reason the oil should be hitting beaches and marshes. Zero.

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

At 6/07/2010 06:41:00 PM, Blogger doc said...

Wheaties, just digressing slightly here but keeping it in the same theme......

There was an album of songs compiling a soundtrack to a surfin' movie back in the early seventies... about the time Neil was layin' down that classic prophetic line.."look at Mother Nature on the Run"...

The album is called "Morning of the Earth"

I think it reflects the peacefulness and hopes of the seventies generation still laggin from post hippie days, but with a slight glimmer of where we might be heading..

We've been through and lived a generation of seeing the introduction of the computer age, witnessed first hand via live video of the atrocities of war and greed...but still don't have the intelligence, with all these modern handles on technical knowledge to harness and embrace for the betterment of mankind...sadly human nature being what it is, we always want "bigger and better than"..and with a "as long as it is not in my backyard attitude, I don't give a shit"...what hope have we got for the future and our planet...

Yep as I said before, Neil was right! IS a "war of man"

prophetic doc

At 6/07/2010 07:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott BP? " By the time your boycott would have any effect, if any, on the top brass and decision makers of the company, the victoms of your missguided bitterness and self-rightous anger will be innocent employees and small time franchise owners and/or operators who had no responsibility for the unfortunate accident. Why should the minimum wage earning cashier have to suffer your wrath? There are hundreds of thousands of BP employees who would be punished for something that they had no part in. Where is love and forgivness? Do you seriously think this was an intentional act "staged to cause fear and more manipulation"? The powers that be are ashamed and sorry and doing everything in their power to bring and end to this tragedy. If anything, they need our support and prayers rather then finger pointing and hate! This company isn't run by monsters, but men and women with children and grandchildren who are just as concerned about our environment as the rest of us. Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Accidents do happen. What was that I heard that last year, out of the hundreds of oil rigs in the country, the Obama administration awarded this very platform with the most prestigious award for being safe and accident free? Anyhow, there are real people with real emotions whoise careers and lives are on the line over this one. I'm glad its not on me!

At 6/07/2010 07:08:00 PM, Blogger doc said...

the wounds of mother earth cut deep
these are memories i don't want to keep

as I grow old and look back on my life
I didn't see our earth in strife

if I could, just go back in time
to try and fix this henious crime

to help save our earth
from this destruction

this human greed, this corporate corruption

so just singin' a song won't change the world
but head those lines we got to meld

and be as one, unite, take actions
to dissolve these groups, these mobs, these factions

the wheat, be strong and state your case
protest, speak out to save our race!!


At 6/07/2010 08:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 7:08, it's true that 99% of BP employees are innocent of any wrong doing, and unfortunately they will have to suffer the same consequences any one suffers who is associated with criminals. Those at the top of BP have no allegiance to their innocent employees, the environment, or even BP itself. Their allegiance is to the group behind the scenes of world affairs who are hell bent on creating and maintaining megalomaniac power, even if it involves wrecking the world and its inhabitants in the process. I hope BP's employees find work elsewhere soon, or ferret out the wrong doers post haste. This is a crime against humanity, that should not be met with indiscriminate vengeance, but should be met nonetheless. Do some research, and you will find that the existing administration in addition to those previous to it, relaxed rules or looked the other way in terms of safe off shore drilling- window dressing and awards notwithstanding. But you are right, BP employees are not monsters, and should not bear the brunt of a lynch mob mentality. But in the short term, is there a better way to hold BP's feet to the fire in hopes of forcing an organizational assignment of properly placed blame? Please, I'm all ears. Beyond this though, there still is the specter of the real power group behind the scenes. Hopefully, more and more people will wake up to what is really happening, and throw more and more light on the real source of this tragedy. This does not require hate and anger, just raised consciousness. Ignorance of cause is the problem, and blind lashing out against effects is a dog chasing its tail. I join you in your defense of BP employees, but don't forget to look a little deeper, either.

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

At 6/07/2010 09:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the 9-11 of the environment. Basically BP is the real true eco-terrorist.

At 6/07/2010 09:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why isn't everyone doing everything to keep this spill from becoming the worst spill in history? Accept all the help offered from other Countries and get the tankers there! Where is the full force of the Federal Government? WTF! We cannot let this continue till August!"

This is catastophic. Throw the kitchen sink at it, get the straw bails, get the tankers, WHATEVER IT TAKES. DO IT LET'S GO! DO IT ALL! point fingers and try lawsuits later.


At 6/07/2010 09:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why wouldn't a boycott work?

Who's in a better position to exert pressure on BP management to fix this? The employees and consumers.

And what are you doing to help? What's your suggestion?

Don't lecture about love & hate when this was caused by pure greed. This wasn't an accident. This is a homicide.

This madness about not until August is not acceptable.

By August it will be far beyond too late....


At 6/07/2010 10:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm afraid it's already "beyond too late" Professor. I usually sign off as "one of eleven thousand" when I post here. The reason is I am one of eleven thousand Dow Chemical workers who lost their jobs in 2009. Dow bought the Union Carbide company a few years back. (remember Bophal?) They never really recovered fully from the PR hit, and when the economy tanked, 11,000 hard working folks hit the road. It's not the low level people trying to feed their families who should take the hit on this, but the high level "curuption on the highest floors" people. It's late, I'm rambling, and I'm really pissed off.

one of eleven thousand.

At 6/08/2010 07:41:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I can totally understand peoples` rage against the BP machine, I feel I should speak out on behalf of British pensioners. From what I`ve read, there will scarcely be a single UK pension scheme that will not be seriously affected by the fall of BP. Again, innocent victims, ordinary people.

Boycotting BP, IMO, will not help solve this massive environmental crisis. It`s way behond blame.

Jill (patch of ground person)

At 6/08/2010 08:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take The Seven C’s Pledge to Protect our Oceans:

1. Commit to making a real difference
2. Conserve in my home
3. Consume consciously
4. Communicate my interest and concerns
5. Challenge myself daily
6. Connect in my community
7. Celebrate our Ocean

At 6/08/2010 08:14:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Pelican ain't gettin no pension! and neither are the other millions of species affected. In life one gets what's deserved. Maybe indirectly, maybe directly. Guilt by association. Life is Risk. When you lay down together you take risk, business, personal, whatever. I have no sympathy for any monetary consideration of this fiasco. This siuation is an affront to planet earth. Period. We's all part of the problem. Stocks crashed, fortunes were lost. Who cried for me? Not me.

At 6/08/2010 09:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way beyond blame?

"A series of internal investigations over the past decade warned senior BP managers that the company repeatedly disregarded safety and environmental rules and risked a serious accident if it did not change its ways."

"EPA investigators are considering whether to end BP's ability to do business with the federal government, a sanction that could cost it billions in revenue."

BP is the largest supplier to the US military so this would likely bankrupt them.

Demands by greedy shareholders and institutional investors for more and more profit produced this catastrophe. They can suffer too.

Boycott BP.

At 6/08/2010 11:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On NBC’s Today show this morning, President Obama said he’s talking to experts on the Gulf oil disaster so that he knows “whose ass to kick.” (Watch his comment here.) Obama said he would have fired BP CEO Tony Hayward, and he criticized BP for engaging in “some corner cutting in terms of safety” leading up to the spill.

“A series of internal investigations over the past decade” show BP “systemically ignored its own safety policies across its North American operations — from Alaska to the Gulf of Mexico to California and Texas,” Pro Publica reports. The classified documents show “management flouted safety by neglecting aging equipment, pressured employees not to report problems and cut short or delayed inspections to reduce production costs.”

“By more than a 2-to-1 margin, Americans support the pursuit of criminal charges” relating to the Gulf spill, “with increasing numbers calling it a major environmental disaster. Eight in 10 criticize the way BP’s handled it — and more people give the federal government’s response a negative rating than did the response to Hurricane Katrina.”

At 6/08/2010 11:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is working. Spread the news that the MSM won't publish!!!

As oil keeps pouring into the Gulf of Mexico, oil giant BP continues to see its reputation dragged further and further through the muck. Across the Gulf Coast, anti-BP signs and calls for help are popping up. On Friday, people gathered at BP’s DC headquarters to protest the corporation and present a “prison jumpsuit” to CEO Tony Hayward.

Protests at the local level — even ones that are nothing more than symbolic in nature — are also picking up.

Yesterday in Pensacola, FL — which is on the Gulf Coast close to the Alabama border and now has tar balls washing up on its beaches — about 30 protesters gathered outside of a local BP gas station for a two-hour demonstration, with signs and bumper stickers reading, “Boycott BP,” “BP Lies Pensacola Dies,” and Wake Up and Smell the Oil.” Some other protests at BP stations around the country:

– On May 30, more than 200 protesters “swarmed Jackson Square” in New Orleans to vent their frustration at BP, where speakers “lashed out” at the “slow effort to keep oil from hitting Louisiana’s coastline.” Many posters had “scathing messages” including “BP = $ over people” and “refuse to be LOSEiana anymore.”

– Over Memorial Day weekend, hundreds of protesters “covered in ‘oil’ or dressed like sea creatures” flocked to a New York City BP station to rally against the oil spill and “to keep motorists from filling up.” Protesters chanted “BP your heart is black, you can have your oil back.”

– On June 3, middle-school students from Illinois valley spent the day “on a stretch of public sidewalk” outside a BP station “shouting facts about the disaster” and chanting “agree with me, don’t buy from BP.”

– Fifteen students in St. Cloud, MN “circled in front” of a BP gas station on Friday holding “painted signs” to show that “young people are doing something and they have a voice.”

– Over Memorial Day weekend, more than 20 protesters demonstrated outside a local convenience store in Charlottesville, VA. One protester urged the need for clean energy sources with “a placard touting fuel from hemp.”

– Protests have also gone viral. Over 330,000 members have joined the Boycott BP Facebook group. Twitter’s BP Boycott has over 2,500 followers.

Many business owners are worried that these boycotts and protests may hurt their profits while not affecting the parent company. The vast majority of the 10,000 BP stations in the country and independently owned and operated.

While the company isn’t publicly addressing the boycott efforts, they may still end up affecting how BP operates. Consumers also boycotted Exxon stations after the 1989 spill in Alaska, and while the company ignored it publicly, Exxon has now “reduced its dependence on consumer sales, and the company is much more dependent on business-to-business sales than it was 20 years ago.” Eighty-one percent of Americans disapprove of BP’s response to the spill, and 64 percent believe the government should pursue criminal charges against those involved.

At 6/08/2010 12:53:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Philanthropic organization 11th Hour Project is showcasing the links between global climate change and the oil spill. They've recently launched a series, Letters From The Field, featuring the individuals most affected by the spill, and highlighting the grave -- and growing graver -- importance of 21st century green issues. The 11th Hour Project aims to support the transition to a clean-energy economy -- and this series aims to analyze the individual stories of struggle that emerge when we fail to make that transition.

Thanks everybody!!

At 6/08/2010 01:33:00 PM, Anonymous Mike Pulley said...

Neil's creation of the hybrid/bio-diesel ("Fork in the Road") seems a logical next step--a positive move out of this mess. But how do us ordinary people acquire such a machine--that's the problem holding us back? And how do we find a convenient, regular supply of bio-diesel even if we acquire the machine? Putting energy into something like this seems like a more positive, practical step--compared to protesting in front of a BP station--and it's not that I'm knocking those who are doing that--at least they're engaged and doing something. But how many of those folks are taking the personal steps in their own lives to reduce consumption of petroleum products.

We've all got blood on our hands in this, so to speak--We're all complicit to a degree, and, if you're like me, you feel trapped and angry about it.

I already try to limit my purchases of products in plastic (petroleum product), but it's not easy. We're overwhelmed with this stuff in the consumer economy.

"The restless consumer flies / Around the world each day / With such an appetite for efficiency / And pace." NY: "The Restless Consumer": Living with War

"What will people do/ After the garden is gone?"
NY: "After the Garden": Living with War

Mike Pulley

At 6/08/2010 01:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the BP PR shill---

What about all the mom & pop fisherman in LA???

What about them? If you cared about them you wouldn't be boo-hooing about these poor gas stations and poor BP employees.

Are they really faultless? TThe BP employees are part of the problem!!! How can you say that BP employees aren't to blame? BP has had a terrible safety record and this negligent tragic oil volcano was not an accident! It is a crime against humanity & wildlife.

People are still failing to realize what a catastrophe this will be for more than just folks with waterfront property. This will impact EVERYTHING. This way beyond 911

At 6/08/2010 02:40:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps BP franchise owners did not know about the atrocities being carried out under the BP name, but they quite aware now.

Anyone of good moral strength and ethical standing would not want to be affiliated with such a company.

Any franchise owner that changes brands will be cheered as a hero of the movement, I'm sure.

In that sense, the boycott is working exactly as planned.

At 6/08/2010 03:06:00 PM, Anonymous Jeana Thomas said...

BP brands to boycott include Castrol, Arco, Aral, am/pm, Amoco, Wild Bean Cafe and, Safeway gas.

At 6/08/2010 03:18:00 PM, Anonymous SONY said...

I wrote this song last week or so. This situation sucks.


Got oil
Spilling from the ocean floor

Got lava, smoke and ash
Rising through an arctic door

Got spoils
Pilling up the landscape more

When will we ever learn
When will the fire cease to burn

There's civic unrest
Runnin' down the city streets

We got score pads and refs
Looking for the team to beat

And have we passed the test
Knowing where the rivers meet

When will we ever learn
When will the fire cease to burn

Politicians talk
Acting like the know the game

Demonstraters walk
Screaming they don't want the same

And casualties come home
Drowning in the blood-soaked rain

When will we ever learn
When will the fire cease to burn

They speak of outer space
Being our new frontier

I hope it's not the case
There's nothing left for us here

Time to make one thing
perfectly clear

When will we ever learn
When will the fire cease to burn

When will we ever learn
When will the fire cease to burn

5/17/2010 - Jay Loson/SONY

At 6/08/2010 03:34:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be aware that anyone who posts a detailed explanation about why you should NOT boycott is being paid by BP's PR campaign.

At 6/08/2010 04:17:00 PM, Blogger doc said...

Now, this IS one time when politics and Neil's message should be spread like the oil itself!

Enjoying the debate and genuine concerns of the wheat.

And even though the "wheat" is a mere site for Neil is but one cog in the wheel to start the "revolution" of concern for our planet!

As an avid surfer and player in our beautiful oceans I for one wanna be able to "keep on frollicking in the Sea world"


At 6/08/2010 04:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

frolic on you crazy diamond!

At 6/08/2010 04:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our government has a Constitutional obligation to protect the people from environmental harms.

In Article IV, section four of the US Constitution you will find this language:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

The “Legislature” means a state legislature. “Executive” means the state’s governor. And “State” means, according to settled legal cases, the people of that state. So, quite simply put, the federal government has an affirmative obligation to protect the people of every state against conditions that amount to domestic violence.

Without question, in this 21st century, environmental harms easily qualify as conditions of domestic violence. Conditions of environmental domestic violence have put our health and, indeed, our survival on this planet into question.

Demand that the Federal Government protect us and the environment before it is too late.

Wake now, discover!

Janet from this planet

At 6/08/2010 05:50:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a waste of time.

Joe B.

At 6/08/2010 06:07:00 PM, Anonymous Cj Laity said...

BP has hired a group of people (we call them
trolls) to counteract the boycott. In one breath
they tell us that the boycott won't work and in the next breath they tell us that we are going to bankrupt BP and then they won't be able to afford the clean up.

They say that we are hypocrites because our plastic computers are made with petroleum; they also say that we are hurting "small businesses" because, they claim, BP stations aren't owned by BP. They
claim that we will cause gas prices to rise.

When those tactics don't work, they call us idiots and morons; then they impersonate us and they post comments promoting violence to make us look bad.

These so-called trolls, who are obviously hired by BP, try to obfuscate the real issues by creating the illusion that this boycott is up for debate. Well, it isn't, and we think that it is quite pathetic of BP to send people over here
to heckle concerned Americans while the greatest ecological disaster in the history of the human race is taking place. So when you see a post that says something like, "I'm all for this boycott, but . . ." just stop reading at the word "but" because what follows is just a cheap shill brought to you by your nasty neighbors, BP. We are boycotting, and there are no BUTS about it.

This is beyond politics and economics. This is the FUTURE and end of the world as we know it.

Cj Laity

At 6/08/2010 06:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i thought this was a Neal young website???

At 6/08/2010 08:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 6:18-

This isn't a Neal young website, you'll have to do
a search for that one.
This is however, a Neil Young blog site where even
Anons' like ourselves can open mouth and insert foot!
I do suggest you get a little more hip to what's happening in the world today, and then you will
know what is going on here. This is Neil Young blogging at its' finest.
You do realize that you opened yourself up to a real
virtual tounge lashing here?
I say get hip....and walk with us.

At 6/08/2010 09:08:00 PM, Anonymous pissed said...

to ANON 6/07/2010 12:20:00 PM who said America look what WE have done? BP means BRITISH Petroleum IDIOT, guess where the company came from? Do some research dip-shit.
The Human Race is to blame here. We should ALL be ashamed of ourselves. I say tear it down, start it all over. It's the worlds only shot. Otherwise we're all toast. No more OIL, no more birds, bugs, fingernails, bees, cars, money, greed, hate, clothes, dogs, headaches, love, drugs, home, stock prices, computers, Apple pie, masturbating, office buildings, work, Heartaches, wives, smog, sex, campfires, Neil young, depression, giraffes,boyfriends, books, warm summer nights, bob Dylan, grandma's, racism, poetry, snowstorms, gardening, diarrhea, haircuts, kittens, sunglasses, firm supple breasts, cold beer, holding hands, music, going to concerts, writing, Obama, Bush, baseball, colds, Grilled Steak, Bombs, gettin' baked, wedgies, fast food, butterflies, babies, losing your virginity, sleeping in, termites, arguments, gettin' drunk, NO MORE PEOPLE. no more world No more nothing. We all need to do something and soon. think about it and tell me if your lifestyle is worth it?
Walk around with head held low because we should all be ashamed.

At 6/08/2010 09:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me take one more stab at this. During one of Gandhi’s campaigns to win work rights for India (sorry, it’s been a while, I don’t have all the correct details), work rights which would directly impact the ability for English working men to earn a living, he surprised and shocked the audience he was speaking to, by expressing his compassion for the effect it all would have on those working men and their families. He was saddened by the thought that even in the act of doing what he thought was right and just- the act of being true to rightness, that people mostly innocent would feel the brunt as a direct result. I don’t know if a boycott of BP is the right tactic to take in a strategy to do the “right” thing. My suspicion is that it is, only because I think that it will contribute to an effort to hopefully prevent more of the same criminal behavior on the part of other bad eggs elsewhere in the future. As part and parcel of this effort, I also am referring to the bad eggs in government who routinely place more importance on campaign contributions, and the obligation that creates to protect criminal behavior, than they do on what is right and good for the whole. All of those clamoring for a boycott of BP, should be expending an equal or greater amount of energy calling to account the people in our own government, people who after all have a greater fiduciary responsibility to us than BP ever had, for their enabling of this crisis to begin with. All of these things are understandable and needed up to a point. Anger is understandable up to a point. Every effort to hold those responsible across all lines to get this mess taken care of should be made. However, and I know it will seem like I am talking out of both sides of my mouth, this a very complex set of circumstances. Lost in the monumental singleness of this oil disaster, is the larger context it is taking place within, but more importantly is the danger in it all, the danger of what it is threatens to do to us in the process.

I know most people don’t believe what I am saying, and there is no coherent way for me to explain it, because it is too fantastic for good hearted people to believe, but THIS WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT. It was designed to foster crisis/solution or, “order out of chaos”. Simultaneously, it is designed to elicit the very thing that is happening on this blog- anger, distress, and fear. There is no way to adequately describe what I’m saying here, but it all has to do with an attempt on the part of the very sick individuals who control the affairs of this world, who are desperate to hold onto the power they are about to lose. The reason they are about to lose their power has to do with the fact that the world is entering a “new” age, an age that will render everything that has empowered this group for thousands of years null and void. What you all should realize though is that, by all means pursue what is right, but pursue it without anger and hate in your hearts and minds. If you fall for the anger, distress and fear, you are only empowering the very people you are attempting to call to account.

At 6/08/2010 09:33:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing for me is that we have long since reached a state of FUBAR (f’d up beyond all recognition). Otherwise good people are being inextricably mixed in with the bad. Pensioners with BP stock, and BP employees who are only thinking in terms of money, money they have to have to survive, have not been able or willing to ask themselves the hard moral and philosophic questions that need to be asked and answered before decisions are made. Is oil good for the world? Should we be actively using safe and cheap forms of alternative energy? Are disasters associated with the drilling for oil possible/probable? Is human health being negatively effected? Are these same questions applicable to any number of other sectors of the economy and employment? My own sister works for a pharmaceutical company I think is evil. She rationalizes the evil they do by the supposed good they do. My brother in law invests in those stocks not because he believes in everything they do, but because of the return he gets on his investment. I have been, and still am guilty of the same kinds of things.

This is a mess that is not going to be solved in the confines of a blog, but suffice to say we all live in glass houses, we all are in the same boat, and we all can find a way out in time if we call upon the best in ourselves, and not the lowest common denominators of ill will or anything else this side of Love.

Yes, I know, all very idealistic and “impractical”, and far fetched, and trust me, I’m not looking down on understandably upset people. But let me just leave you with one question, given that what goes around, comes around. How aware are you- and again, I don’t say we do nothing, that by taking up your pitch forks and torches, “you’re all just pissing in the wind”?

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

p.s. to Cj Laity, a lot of what you say is true, but not everyone injecting a note of caution into the discussion, e.g. Jill (patch of ground person), or myself, are working for BP.

At 6/08/2010 09:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing for me is that we have long since reached a state of FUBAR (f’d up beyond all recognition). Otherwise good people are being inextricably mixed in with the bad. Pensioners with BP stock, and BP employees who are only thinking in terms of money, money they have to have to survive, have not been able or willing to ask themselves the hard moral and philosophic questions that need to be asked and answered before decisions are made. Is oil good for the world? Should we be actively using safe and cheap forms of alternative energy? Are disasters associated with the drilling for oil possible/probable? Is human health being negatively effected? Are these same questions applicable to any number of other sectors of the economy and employment? My own sister works for a pharmaceutical company I think is evil. She rationalizes the evil they do by the supposed good they do. My brother in law invests in those stocks not because he believes in everything they do, but because of the return he gets on his investment. I have been, and still am guilty of the same kinds of things.

This is a mess that is not going to be solved in the confines of a blog, but suffice to say we all live in glass houses, we all are in the same boat, and we all can find a way out in time if we call upon the best in ourselves, and not the lowest common denominators of ill will or anything else this side of Love.

Yes, I know, all very idealistic and “impractical”, and far fetched, and trust me, I’m not looking down on understandably upset people. But let me just leave you with one question, given that what goes around, comes around. How aware are you- and again, I don’t say we do nothing, that by taking up your pitch forks and torches, “you’re all just pissing in the wind”?

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

p.s. to Cj Laity, a lot of what you say is true, but not everyone injecting a note of caution into the discussion, e.g. Jill (patch of ground person), or myself, are working for BP.

At 6/08/2010 09:40:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, my second comment didn't post right away, even when I refreshed the page. Hopefully you can delete the duplicate, and this comment. Greg M

At 6/08/2010 09:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The even scarier thing about that spill-cam counter is that it's set at the low end of the range. Experts are saying this could be 100,000 barrels a day!!

fade to black

At 6/09/2010 06:27:00 AM, Blogger doc said...

"this is a waste of time"

Joe it might seem fruitless, it might seem that we ARE just.."pissin' in the wind"...but now is not the time to be sceptical or pessimistic or that our collective actions of protest are useless.

We have to act with a united front, to air our concerns...

Safety in numbers... we are but spokes in the squeeky wheel!,but each spoke has a role to play for this wheel to roll.

what is that line?..."we have only BORROWED this earth from our children...let them not inherit it in such disrepair!

"Teach your children well"..
"find the cost of freedom'...
"Mother earth will swallow you"..

All these cliches and prophetic lyrics, from songs gone by, only enhance and substantiate what our "prophets"had sung in musical hope and had proclaimed or feared.

Joe,please don't take the attitude that it is a "waste of time"...we need to be positive, we need to be united in our stance... be it ever so insignificant in people's eyes.

"Those people and the damage done"

I caught them knocking at our ocean floor
They want that oil!... can they have some more

Drill mud, to keep from running out!
I've seen that drillin' and the damage done

a little part of earth's on the run
But will our children see the setting sun?


At 6/09/2010 07:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BP : fuckn eco-terrorist. HEy Lord loser Browne of Madingley, spend more money to repair what you made, instead of worry about the image of you shitty brand.

At 6/09/2010 12:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just I feel I should apologise for stirring up anger and bad feelings by my comments yesterday - that certainly wasn`t my intention. Greg is right, I do not work for BP and never have done. Also, I can assure people that I don`t look at this disaster in purely financial terms, personal or otherwise. Sorry if I gave that impression. Regular bloggers will have noticed that I suffer from frequent bouts of foot-in-mouth syndrome.

But, there will be vast numbers of innocent victims caught up in the fallout from this catastrophe, including thousands of species of wildlife. As always happens when human greed and corruption on the highest levels overrides respect and concern for the environment and for all living things.

And yes, there has to be blame in order to exert enough pressure to get this situation under control and cleaned up in the fastest possible time and to try and prevent disasters on this scale from happening again.

`Guilt by association`? Well maybe there`s a case to be answered there, but how far do we want to take this? We are all fellow travellers living in this global age of materialism and consumerism and we all have to take some responsibility for the the environment we live in and to think about what sort of world we`ll be leaving for future generations. The bottom line is that we drastically need to change our lifestyles in order to free ourselves from such dependency on oil and oil-based products.

Just singing a song won`t change the world. Neil, as ever, has got it right.

Peace and Love.


ps. Interesting comments, Greg.

At 6/09/2010 12:33:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." -FDR (1941)

The BP commercials and the President, if you've noticed, are all trying to calm our fears right now.

But this isn't 1941 and it's not the Japs or the Nazis' coming from the outside to get us.
No, it's something much more sinister. It's corporations and politicians coming at us from within our economic system who work together AS ONE
to roll in the profits they reap.
From Enron, to the banks, to the Big 3 auto conglomerates, it seems to be all finally coming to a head.
Vote for change...Vote for hope.
I did.
And now I'm watching....and waiting.

At 6/09/2010 02:50:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sins of the fathers have come a callin'.
F you BP's and Madoffs.
F you politicians and business brokers who's
eye's are bigger than their stomach's
The devil truly walks among us and you are him.
The picture of the oily pelican says it all.
If you don't feel the anguish
The betrayel
The sickness
The sadness
The nonsense no sense
The utter BS of it all
You don't feel
F YOU!!!

At 6/09/2010 03:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 12:33, it's called fascism, the merging of the state and corporations. What's crucial to understand though, is that the movement towards fascism is not just an American phenomena. Rather, fascism in America is part and parcel of a worldwide system of fascism being inflicted on us all by a One World System that is at the root of all our problems, in terms of the material world. For all of us glass house dwellers, working in other areas of this system of fascism, we need to be ever mindful of our own unwitting participation. BP is not the only corporate entity "sucking blood from the earth" and its inhabitants, and BP employees are not the only ones lending their energy to companies just as culpable in the big picture. Not to mention that all of us participate in the "benefits" of oil, and all of us enable in one form or another, "corruption on the highest floor." Of course, as this world system is just an effect, it begs the question of cause, which of course is spiritual in nature. It's just one factor that led to this disaster, and it's just one factor that will be transformed during the transition we are going through. In the end, Mother Earth will take care of herself, and Life will not tolerate ultimate destruction. In the meantime, we need to do what we can together to redress collective wrongs, but as Jill suggests, we'll get more traction by directing our attention back on ourselves. "Be the rain".

Greg M (A Friend Of Yours)

At 6/09/2010 03:11:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The F YOU!!! post at 2:50 was me Rancho Relaxo by the way.Suck a** BP.

Rancho (not so) Relaxo

At 6/11/2010 06:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I've got a little song that I've been wanting to sing ya..
" and I sing it a lot"...(David Crosby 4 way street)...I 've done it in "Rap modal"(doc 1 way out)

Its called the BP rap:

HEY YOU!... doc is in Da house!!

Now the C E O... he has to go
B P fuct up ..can't stop that FLOW !!

Now mother Earth's.. she's at an all time low!
lost that sheen, that pristine glow

From cuttin' trees to drillin' oil
Us humans here....we sure did soil,

Earth's pants a bit..
...we have NOT been loyal!

Now we're up in arms..
here at the wheat..

we got the Keyboards tappin..
We're shufflin feet!

Will dey, all listen?..
Are they really aware?

Do they give a stuff? they really care?

those C E O's..
...those heads of State
Are they gunna point blame?
... or.come up to da plate?

just how long?..I can hear her rumble
just how long..for this Earth to crumble?

Come on guys! all colour , or greed

lets act now!!
lets take the lead!!

YO......YO....Yo.....Yo.....thats a rap!

doc dread

At 7/27/2010 11:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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