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Wednesday, December 06, 2017

UPDATED - Neil Young's Online Archives: What Have We Found Thus Far?

UPDATE: The image below has been confirmed as "fake news" and removed. All apologies. Details in comments below.


Roxy Live Album Cover?


With all of the big Neil Young news excitement recently, we have not had much of a chance to fully dig into Neil Young's Online Archives. As announced last month, the Online Archives will be initially be free -- Neil's gift to his fans: "In the beginning, everything is free."

There is little doubt already that the Neil Young Online Archives is a masterpiece in presentation that leapfrogs other artist archival projects and sets a new standard,

But already, some "Easter Eggs" are starting to reveal themselves to those who seek. From a note from Stan:
I've been an avid reader of Thrashers Wheat for some years now and thought I'd share something I've stumbled upon.

I've been going thru some of the code in the amazing new archives and managed to dig up something I presume is the album cover for the Roxy Live album. I haven't been able to find any covers of the other unreleased albums which might be a hint that Roxy Live is next in line for release.

Anyway, I thought I'd share the cover with you if you would want to post it. I think it's very cool and have no doubt readers of TW would enjoy it.

Peace out,
Stan
Thanks Stan! very cool and thanks for sharing. Keep us posted on your other findings!


UPDATE: Stan - You've got some explaining to do. Please respond to our emails and/or comment below.

The image above has been confirmed as "fake news". All apologies. Details in comments below.


Here's another nice "Easter Egg" find from bigmrbee914 on a comment on "PREVIEW: Neil Young Online Archives - December 1st":
So there are a few goodies that are previously unknown or harder to find.

While we may not have any of the Geffen material, no I'm Goin' or Interstate, and previously unreleased material from beyond 1972 has yet to come, we did get a couple of items that caught my attention. Remember the hidden track on Archives Vol 1 with the alternate mix of I Believe In You? Well, it's here. But real surprise so far was the version of Birds from August 1969 with Crazy Horse. You remember... the first verse only version...? Well, the Neil Young Archive online has delivered the full recording with the 2nd verse intact.

Last August, Neil Young announced that an "online archive" -- with nearly all of his recordings -- will be made available.

"Every single, recorded track or album I have produced is represented," Neil says in a old school typewriter letter posted on the Neil Young Archives website.


Neil Young Archives Tutorial

Timeline - Neil Young Archives

Neil types: "View all albums currently released and see albums still unreleased and in production just by using the controls to zoom through the years. Unreleased album art is simply penciled in so you can where unreleased albums will appear on the timeline, once they are completed." The Archives site -- organized using the "Filing Cabinet" system -- will let fans “choose, purchase and set up your equipment to hear the absolute best streaming music at your location."

Filing Cabinet - Neil Young Archives

Neil explains that Xstream Music, a high resolution "adaptive streaming service" with access to "pure uncompressed masters," will vary the quality of the stream depending on the bandwidth the user has available. XStream will deliver super high-res, 6,000-kilobits-per-second (kbps) quality. If using data on a mobile devices, a 700-kbps stream will deliver compact disc-quality audio. XStream will also have access to the Young promised.

Track Details - Neil Young Archives

“View all albums currently released and see albums still unreleased and in production just by using the controls to zoom through the years. Unreleased album art is simply penciled in so you can where unreleased albums will appear on the timeline, once they are completed.”

As Neil says in tutorial video: "Try not to get lost."



Also, see:

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Everything You've Ever Wanted To Know About
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But Were Afraid To Ask


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At 12/06/2017 02:07:00 PM, Blogger punkdavid said...

Thrasher,

The other cool thing about that "Birds" cut is that it's. STEREO MIX. Previous releases of the Crazy Horse "Birds" (including on Archives Vol 1) were always mono.

--PunkDavid

 
At 12/06/2017 02:10:00 PM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Good point PunkDavid!
Thanks for dropping a comment.

It's been awhile. good to see you.

Hope to see you back this way again someday soon.

 
At 12/06/2017 03:18:00 PM, Blogger Hayo said...

Am I going crazy or did the Crazy Horse version of Birds just disappear?

 
At 12/06/2017 04:17:00 PM, Blogger NEILS 51 JEEPSTER said...

the best , most unique thing I have heard on the new archives is --- on the way home --- neil young and the bluenotes --- its got HORNS !!! --- TONS OF HORNS !!! --- just like the original buffalo springfield cut --- sounds CORRECT !!!

 
At 12/06/2017 05:11:00 PM, Blogger kahunasunset said...

Yep, a lot of stuff is gone.

 
At 12/06/2017 05:19:00 PM, Blogger Cheapfeet said...

Things are disappearing. Many of the albums are now incomplete. Neil will be changing what he wants us to have for free in the next little while. I wonder what Shakey's up to

 
At 12/06/2017 05:58:00 PM, Blogger punkdavid said...

It has disappeared.

I guess the Archives team monitors Thrasher's Wheat, huh?

--PunkDavid

 
At 12/06/2017 07:57:00 PM, Blogger Cheapfeet said...

And . . . . it's all back up, including the CH Birds.
That Neil, such a kidder!

 
At 12/06/2017 08:16:00 PM, Blogger Genghis Kon said...

Things that were once free are selectively disappearing, and we are waiting to know what we will be made to pay for those things, probably in some sort of package deal. Sounds too familiar. Neil should write a song about net neutrality, I’m surprised I haven’t heard him voice his opinion on the issue.

 
At 12/06/2017 08:38:00 PM, Blogger Babbo B. said...

Seeing lots of speculation that Roxy cover art is a fake - it's a photo Neil posted on Instagram for his birthday two years ago (though not sure that necessarily rules it out as an album cover); the NYAPS logo says "Disc 02," which was the Fillmore release; and more tech-savvy folks than me say images aren't contained in code that way.

But on a brighter note, "Birds" is back.

 
At 12/06/2017 10:24:00 PM, Blogger onthebeach said...

I too think it is fake...It would be Volume 4 and I've looked everywhere I can and still haven't found it on the site.

 
At 12/06/2017 11:30:00 PM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Sorry about that folks.

Stan - Looks like you have some explaining to do.

 
At 12/07/2017 01:03:00 AM, Blogger Andy Walters said...

Dear ALL, save me some time - I have Archives Blu-Ray - are there any new songs in full here? A simple question I guess?

 
At 12/07/2017 03:11:00 AM, Blogger Hayo said...

Good to see Birds back, I nearly cried when it was gone. Neil has us by the balls with this!

 
At 12/07/2017 04:23:00 AM, Blogger Shakey said...

Hey Thrasher any ideasier if we will be able to watch the DVD releases at some point? So far it just shows credits and the odd short video

 
At 12/07/2017 11:27:00 AM, Blogger Jose Escoda said...

Hello
After the concert Omemee seen from Paris thanks to Neil Young for the live broadcast and Bravo for the work done on the site of the Neil Young Archives. Great
December 2, 2017 newspaper articles
THE VOICE OF THE NORTH
THE DAILY
INROCKUPTIBLES
"Neil Young provides his entire online archive, never seen before!
But no, it's not a shambles! Are you ready for the country?!!!!!

K O R
Jose of Paris

 
At 12/07/2017 12:13:00 PM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Hello again.

Still no response from Stan on the sourcing of image above. As soon as we hear back from Stan, we'll be sure to share.

If anyone out there knows a Stan who might have analyzed NYOA, please reach out to him for an explanation.

We feel very badly here for providing false info on the NYOA and hope to have a resolution soon.

Sooner or later it all gets REAL.

 
At 12/07/2017 12:46:00 PM, Blogger Art Carey said...

Suggest that you just erase the Stan-stuff. He was obviously just f-ing with us.

 
At 12/07/2017 02:46:00 PM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Good call Art.

removed.

Been burned with both feet on the ground. again. :(

 
At 12/07/2017 03:36:00 PM, Blogger Genghis Kon said...

To be fair, the label could have just been a placeholder. I remember for the Bluenote Cafe art, the NYA logo was blue (it looked great too), but only on the Crime in the City single. Afterwards, when the actual album was released,all digital artwork and physics artwork used a white logo instead. Since the logo is to some degree custom designed (its not just default text in photoshop), it wouldn’t be out of line to guess that this was just an early mock-up. Maybe I’m just in denial, because I’ve always wanted to hear a properly recorded Tonight’s The Night show, complete with Neil’s strange Miami Beach monologues.

This might just be an early draft, not the final product. As you know, everything is cheaper than it looks.

 
At 12/07/2017 03:41:00 PM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Ok, confirmed this image was an update by Neil on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/-FjtlTONIB/?hl=en&taken-by=neilyoung

on November 14, 2015

 
At 12/07/2017 06:59:00 PM, Blogger Babbo B. said...

@Genghis: Don't worry, the "Roxy Live" album is still on the way (at some point, anyway), there's a placeholder for it in the timeline. Those shows were a lot shorter than the British ones, though, so no extended monologues, just the random Miami Beach/palm tree references.

 
At 12/08/2017 08:22:00 AM, Blogger wardo said...

Even before the false alarm, I wondered why the album in question is shown on Neil's "post-it" as "CRAZY HOSS ROXY LIVE". Surely they were the Santa Monica Flyers then?

 
At 12/08/2017 10:37:00 AM, Blogger Thrasher Wheat said...

Thanks Wardo. Good point and this should never have made it past our content editors.

Looks like TW will need to clean house once more. Lots of cheering here.

"Every time I make a mistake, I cheer for myself on the inside."
~~ Neil Young, Somewhere in Canada, December 1, 2017

 
At 12/08/2017 02:11:00 PM, Blogger Babbo B. said...

@wardo: They were billed as Crazy Horse in the advance press for the Roxy shows. The Flyers name wasn't used until the British tour.

 

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