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Saturday, February 08, 2025

Heading out to where the pavement turns to sand ...

"It was then I knew I'd had enough Burned my credit card for fuel Headed out to where the pavement turns to sand With a one-way ticket to the land of truth And my suitcase in my hand How I lost my friends I still don't understand"
Thrasher by Neil Young
image via GROK


Hey hey, Thrashers here with a PSA ... standby ...

Our last break here at Thrasher's Wheat was in 2021 due to an "unplanned/forced sabbatical".  Prior to that, we went off the grid and "on the beach" back in 2016. So this will only be our 3rd break in almost 30 years of blogging?! 

Twist and shout. Fork in the Road and all of that, you know.

So this all seems like a good time to get away somewhere nice and warm; somewhere where the pavement turns to sand.  And -- more importantly  -- work on our tans, unplug from the sea of madness, and declutter our minds and souls.

As humbled as we might be by running what is now the 2nd longest continuously running website dedicated to a single topic on the Internet [i.e., Original Influencer #2], it is our long relationship with our soulmate and the unconditional love that matters the most.

And thank you everyone so much for your support of independent media.

So as we consciously co-create awareness of our separate realities, we'll see everyone on the other side of the Big Shift. C'mon, break on through to the other side ... break on through ... break on through ...

(Incidentally, this resonated with us. Insert standard disclaimer here.)

In the meantime, all of you oh-so wonderful rustie grains and friends out there,  seek only the wheat. No chaff. Please promise.  Because the winnowing is the hardest part. [NOTE: wheat = truth; chaff = false; winnowing = disCERNment ]

Like a smoke ring day when the wind blows, 
we won't be back till later on, if we do come back at all ...
But you know us, and we'll miss you now ...

peace & love,
thrasher and thrashette

ps - And an early Happy Valentine's Day to our Heart of Gold, Thrashette. I love you!

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Sunday, November 26, 2023

Once Again, Neil Young Takes A "Stand For Peace"

"Stand For Peace" by Neil Young
(Frame from Official Music Video)


UPDATED

Neil Young released an official music video on Thanksgiving Day titled "Stand For Peace".

"Stand For Peace" is an instrumental of the American national anthem "The Star-Spangled Banner" on electric guitar, similar to Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock. The video is directed by Young's wife Daryl Hannah.



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Before moving into some background onto background on Neil Young's longtime position on war and peace, a comment earlier by Dan:
@ The Metamorphic Rocker : You are not alone in your thinking. The words you have written are logical, and well thought out. [See comment here by Meta Rocker] I just wanted you to know that I understand your position completely, and support your views wholeheartedly.

If we could all somehow just get past the ’Us Against Them’ mentality, and see each other as the same species, then perhaps we could make this world a better place. Until then we are sadly doomed to repeat history time and time again.

If the human race could finally understand just how much better off ‘everyone’ would be if we were able to consolidate our efforts together, then there would be no one going hungry, or homeless. Or die because they can’t afford health insurance. Everyone could be free to express themselves without judgment, or persecution. Instead of ‘don’t tread on me’ we could embrace ‘don’t tread on anyone’. Then maybe life on earth wouldn’t be so damn dangerous.

We are one of the only species on earth that hunts itself….for their own gain.

Greed kills, and as Dylan once sang…. Money doesn’t talk, it swears. 

But sadly, here we are in 2023 and we're still living with war.

Living With War by Neil Young - 2006


If there was ever an artist to which the label "anti-war" sticks, it would be Neil Young. 
 
Over 50 years since "Ohio" and Kent State, the tin soldiers are still marching onwards toward war.  Except this time, not just some random regional conflict to keep the War Machine primed, but full on discussion and encouragement to get a full blown World War #3 going.
 
Military madness, indeed.

In 2022, as the war drums started beating in Ukraine, Neil Young penned an editorial on  Neil Young Archives: VIEWPOINT: The Apotheosis of War.
 
“The Apotheosis of War” 
by Vasily Vereshchagin
(Click photo to enlarge)
 

With military madness continuing to kill our countries, what's the average citizen of the world to do?

Obviously, we're Still Living With War -- both in our minds and hearts -- because it's all just deja vu, all over again and again and again ...
 
In a 2008 article on Who Got Iraq Right? by Greg Mitchell and Tom Engelhardt, they include Neil Young and his album Living With War as an alternative voice for:
"... exposing the criminal nature of, and the many costs of, the Iraq war that have emerged from an "alternative" universe that includes former war correspondents, reporters for small newspapers or news services, comedians, aging rock 'n rollers, and bloggers, among others. "
As Neil Young has stated: "History is a cruel judge of overconfidence."
 

Neil Young Signs "PEACE"

So more "Shock And Awe" coming everyone's way again?

Once completing the album Living With War in 2007, Neil Young played the album for his label Reprise and than immediately gave a live interview to CNN. For many fans, this was Neil at his finest -- speaking truth to power.

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Neil Rocks on CNN
 
So did "Living With War" become the rock equivalent to the film "Fahrenheit 9/11"? For critics, it seemed to be the case.


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 "CSNY DEJA VU" Film Poster - 2008
 
Part performance, part documentary and commentary, the film CSNY Déjà Vu is a call to peace and remains relevant today. Because if we ignore the lessons of history, we do so at our peril.

From album "Living With War", the title track's lyrics continue their prescient revelations on today's times.
 
Neil Young - 2016

[ Try to remember peace (visualize) ]

"I join the multitudes
I raise my hand in peace
I never bow to the laws of the thought police
I take a holy vow
To never kill again
To never kill again

I'm living with war in my heart
I'm living with war in my heart and my mind
I'm living with war right now"

 
Despite what the critics wrote negatively about the album -- if nothing else -- Living With War was the most courageous album of 2006.

In 2016, Neil Young released the album "Peace Trail".
 
Neil Young: "Peace Trail" - 2016
 
Track Listing: Neil Young's "Peace Trail" - 2016
(note title of Track #6)
 

Even though when Neil Young sings about peace and love and war he admits that he doesn't "really know what I'm saying" and while "Just singing a song won't change the world", it certainly has proven to be a good starting point at least.

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Neil Young:
"Just singing a song won't change the world"
2008 Berlin Film Festival
Photo by Markus Schreiber

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Tuesday, May 16, 2023

Pete Townshend On Neil Young's Biggest Problem

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Pete Townshend and Neil Young
  
Pete Townshend shared some interesting thoughts about Neil Young in an interview in 2022 with Rolling Stone Magazine by Andy Greene as pondered by Otis Gibbs.  (Thanks Bob G.!)
 
 

 

Otis quotes from  Rolling Stone article:

Pete Townshend: "If you go on YouTube, you’re likely to hear Neil Young at the Bridge School wailing away with his old Gretsch with a voice like an old lady. 

What we don’t know is that he’s written some of the most beautiful songs that have ever been written, and also some of the most rocking. That’s true of Joni as well."

More on Pete Townshend and Neil Young's musical intersections @

Pete Townshend writes about Neil Young's influence on his 2005 blog Pete's Diary

More on Otis Gibbs reflecting on Frank Zappa's favorite records by Neil Young.


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Wednesday, September 14, 2022

Marcus Mumford: Advice from Neil Young Influenced Debut Solo Album | NME

Neil Young and Marcus Mumford
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Over the decades, we here at TW have extensively documented Neil Young's vast influence on other musicians (see 50+ Reasons Why Neil Young's Music Matters).

Here is Marcus Mumford on how advice from Neil Young influenced his debut solo album  where  "He told me the importance of recorded music".

From NME interview by Tom Skinner:

Marcus Mumford: “Neil Young sat me down about 10 years ago and told me the importance of recorded music and that I should pay more attention to the way in which we record because I was always [like], ‘Ah, it’s just an advert for a live show.’ 

He was like, ‘No man, these things last.'”

I felt like on this record, I listened to that [advice]. I paid closer attention to the way it sounded than anything I’d ever done before.”

More on full NME interview by Tom Skinner.

Also, see more on Neil Young's musical influences on 50+ Reasons Why Neil Young's Music Matters.

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Tuesday, July 19, 2022

David Crosby and The Damage Done (or Not...)

Classic Rocker Mouths Off At Fan, Gets Dragged For His Trouble | Daily Wire
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David Crosby -- yet again -- finds himself in serious blowback over some ill considered remarks. (Thanks Richie C.!)

The short story is that a Croz fan (DJBSackett @DjbSackett·

 

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Hi @thedavidcrosby hope you are keeping well. Did a picture of you…. Thanks for the music
 

The fallout has not been kind to David Crosby.

So, the following is an attempt not to re-hash ad infinitum the never ending controversies of CSN & Neil Young , but to simply share something that we were unaware of completely.

Check this clip from 1967 Monterey Pop Festival of The Byrds.

 

 

The Byrds - "He Was a Friend of Mine" (Live at 1967 Monterey Pop Festival)

In the above clip, David Crosby makes a very brief statement about the John F. Kennedy assassination and then plays the Byrds song "He Was a Friend of Mine".

David Crosby: “They’re shooting this for television. 

I’m sure they’re going to edit this out. I want to say it anyway, even though they will edit it out. When President Kennedy was killed, he was not killed by one man. He was shot from a number of different directions, by different guns. 

The story has been suppressed, witnesses have been killed, and this is your country, ladies and gentlemen.”

"He Was A Friend Of Mine"

He was a friend of mine, he was a friend of mine
His killing had no purpose, no reason or rhyme
He was a friend of mine

He was in Dallas town, he was in Dallas town
From a sixth floor window a gunner shot him down
He was in Dallas town

He never knew my name, he never knew my name
Though I never met him I knew him just the same
Oh he was a friend of mine

Leader of a nation for such a precious time
He was a friend of mine


David Crosby: “Thank you. As I say, they will censor it I’m sure. They can’t afford to have things like that on the air. It’d blow their image.”

Due to Crosby’s controversial statement about the JFK assassination,  the Byrds'  Monterey performance was cut from television and film coverage of the festival.  It was this incident and similar circumstances which led to Crosby leaving the Byrds and eventually forming CSN.

But... history has proven that Crosby was right back in 1967 about the JFK assassination, as we know now.

It was -- as Bob Dylan put it recently -- a "Murder Most Foul".



Jackie Reaching for JFK's Brains
"If Lee Harvey Oswald's shots came from the behind (above left), why are JFK's brains on the rear trunk? (front, right)"
 
 

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Friday, May 06, 2022

"Live Music Is Better": The Great Guitars @ The Birchmere — 5/3/22

 The Great Guitars:
John Jorgenson, Martin Taylor & Frank Vignola
The Birchmere, Alexandria, Virginia - May 3, 2022
(photos by thrashette - Click photo to enlarge)

 

As you know, last year, we had a rather life changing event occur where we can truly say that "The Music Saved Our Lives" -- both seriously and literally.

And -- as we discussed throughout 2020 & 2021 ... everybody knows "Live Music Is Better", of course. (Or, another example, "Live Music Is Better" - Mid-Summer 2021 Edition #2 Son Volt @ The Birchmere — 3/2/22 or  -- most recently --  Cowboy Junkies @ The Birchmere — 4/10/22).

 

John Jorgenson, Martin Taylor & Frank Vignola

Earlier this week ( 5/3/22), we caught The Great Guitars: John Jorgenson, Martin Taylor & Frank Vignola at The Birchmere in Alexandria, Virginia and it was well, great -- just as advertised.  Great not just because we  were simply enjoying live music with our new friends but because we got something we always consider  a treat ... a call out by the artists onstage. 

The short story is that thrashette is long time fan of The Great Guitarist Martin Taylor.  When  thrashette called out Martin's name at the beginning of the show, Martin looked out and asked who was that?,  thrashette identified herself, and, well, it then became almost a personal concert for our dear  thrashette sitting at the front table seat directly at Martin's knees.

 

Martin Taylor

Hence, the "album cover" pose from stage photo for thrashette above!

 
 
 

And who did you hear this week?

Rare R@D "Live Music Is Better" Bumper Sticker
w/ Hawks & Doves by Neil Young

(via TW Archives)
 

So we're just glad, fortunate and blessed to be able to go a few miles down the road to a splendid music venue that respects both the artists and the audiences  and enjoy live music with our dear friends.

So let the music continue to flow unrestricted and freely to all across the lands in the summer of 2022!!!

After all, isn't it all about the "Ordinary People of RUST"?


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Sunday, April 24, 2022

Wheat of the Moment: Riding the Dark Horse -- What Neil Young Taught Me About Autism and Fear

Neil Young & Bridge Kids
@ Bridge School Benefit Concert 2011
Photo Gallery by By Jay Blakesberg Photography


The karma of blogging.  

From the TW Vaults, here is a post from 2012,  "Riding the Dark Horse: What Neil Young Taught Me About Autism and Fear" by Hannah Brown.

In her essay, Brown blogs about how Neil Young's song  "Tell Me Why" from the album After the Gold Rush, helped her through a difficult period with her son's autism.

One day I was driving home when I got a very distressing phone call from Danny's school. 

He had had a terrible tantrum and still wasn't calm. I wondered how I would cope with him when he got home. We had just moved and I was finishing the final edits on my novel, If I Could Tell You, about four mothers raising children just diagnosed with autism. I couldn't help feeling frustrated that I had immersed myself in writing a book about autism, yet my son was still having such a difficult time. It was as if all my knowledge and experience wasn't enough to help Danny. After the conversation, I put on a Neil Young CD, After the Gold Rush, which I had just found in a box I had unpacked that morning. I hadn't listened to it in years. I heard the first song, "Tell Me Why," which contains the lyrics "Still the searcher/Must ride the dark horse/Racing alone in his fright," and a light went on for me. 

I pulled over, crying. 

Because then I understood what it was like for that dark horse, how terrible and intense his fear was. 

We parents are the searchers and we can't give up, no matter how rough a ride it is. 

A must read for all of us on the healing powers of music, here is  Riding the Dark Horse: What Neil Young Taught Me About Autism and Fear by Hannah Brown, Author, "If I Could Tell You".


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Monday, April 11, 2022

"Live Music Is Better": Cowboy Junkies @ The Birchmere — 4/10/22

 Cowboy Junkies 
The Birchmere, Alexandria, Virginia - April 10, 2022
(photo by TW - Click photo to enlarge)

 

As you know, last year, we had a rather life changing event occur where we can truly say that "The Music Saved Our Lives" -- both seriously and literally.

And -- as we discussed throughout 2020 & 2021 ... everybody knows "Live Music Is Better", of course. (Or, another example, "Live Music Is Better" - Mid-Summer 2021 Edition #2 or  -- most recently -- "Live Music Is Better": Son Volt @ The Birchmere — 3/2/22.)

 

Setlist w/ "(Don't Let It) Bring You Down"
 (photo by HtH - Click photo to enlarge)

 

Last night ( 4/10/22), we caught  Cowboy Junkies at The Birchmere in Alexandria, Virginia and it was fab.  Fab not just because we  were simply enjoying live music with our friends but because we got something we always consider  treat ... a Neil Young cover. 

Cowboy Junkies covered Neil Young's "Don't Let It Bring You Down" off their latest album of covers "Songs of the Recollection". (Album also includes cover of Neil's "Love In Mind", also.  More details here.) Lead singer Margo Timmins introduced the previous cover by Gordon Lightfoot as the "King of Canadian Folk Music".  The intro for Neil's DLIBYD was in a similar laudatory vein for the Canadian singer songwriter.

Rare R@D "Live Music Is Better" Bumper Sticker
w/ Hawks & Doves by Neil Young

(via TW Archives)
 

So we're just glad, fortunate and blessed to be able to go a few miles down the road to a splendid music venue that respects both the artists and the audiences  and enjoy live music with our dear friends.

So let the music continue to flow unrestricted and freely to all across the lands in the summer of 2022!!!

After all, isn't it all about the "Ordinary People of RUST"?


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Monday, March 14, 2022

Comment of the Moment: Still Living With War... Deja Vu Yet Again

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In our recent post Still Living With War... Deja Vu Yet Again, we explored today's global tensions in the context of the anti-war music of CSN&Y.  

Which, of course -- and surprisingly -- generated a fair amount of discussion about the situation.  It would be impossible to try and summarize here, so we encourage anyone interested in world peace to check the thread comments.

Here is our Comment of the Moment on  Still Living With War... Deja Vu Yet Again by Abner:

This brings me to Living with War. 

These songs are, to me anyway, flat our brilliant because they face the nihilism. The frustration and rage and sadness that engulf the album are born from the wall of nothingness that is US policy. We have forgotten (perhaps) just how stupid and unjustified it was to attack Iraq (the second time around at least). But forget details at this point. The same wall of nothingness takes place in the fight over the environment: nothing gets done because it does not motivate. 

What has happened now is belligerence is living happily with ignorance and narcissism.  

Thanks, as always Abner, for your carefully chosen thoughts and words here during these volatile times.

Again,  this CotM was snipped from a wide ranging conversation that is impossible to summarize, so we encourage anyone interested in the subject of world peace to check the thread comments.

Btw, this week's Thrasher's Wheat Radio 2.0 episode features our Special Guest Davy from Scotland who discusses the connections between albums Deja Vu and Living With War amidst the backdrop of ongoing global unrest. Check it out.


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Saturday, March 12, 2022

Still Living With War... Deja Vu Yet Again?! - UPDATED

Living With War by Neil Young - 2006

Sadly, we're still living with war.

And judging by the beat of the war drums, it looks like we'll soon have another kinetic war front open up in Ukraine, eastern Europe and likely elsewhere, very, very sadly.

If there was ever an artist to which the label anti-war sticks, it would be Neil Young. Over 50 years since "Ohio" and Kent State, the tin soldiers are still marching onwards toward war.  Except this time, not just some random regional conflict to keep the War Machine primed, but full on discussion and encouragement to get a full blown World War #3 going.
 
Military madness, indeed.

Last month, as the war drums started beating, Neil Young penned an editorial on  Neil Young Archives: VIEWPOINT: The Apotheosis of War.
 
“The Apotheosis of War” 
by Vasily Vereshchagin
(Click photo to enlarge)
 

In a followup, Neil Young writes "Streets are the Stage for Change" and asks:

"THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP FOR HUMANITY and let the whole world know who they really are."

With military madness continuing to kill our countries, what's the average citizen of the world to do?

Obviously, we're Still Living With War -- both in our minds and hearts -- because it's all just deja vu, all over again and again and again ...
 
In a 2008 article on Who Got Iraq Right? by Greg Mitchell and Tom Engelhardt, they include Neil Young and his album Living With War as an alternative voice for:
"... exposing the criminal nature of, and the many costs of, the Iraq war that have emerged from an "alternative" universe that includes former war correspondents, reporters for small newspapers or news services, comedians, aging rock 'n rollers, and bloggers, among others. "
As Neil Young has stated: "History is a cruel judge of overconfidence."
 

Neil Young Signs "PEACE"

More "Shock And Awe" coming our way.

Once completing the album Living With War in 2007, Neil Young played the album for his label Reprise and than immediately gave a live interview to CNN. For many fans, this was Neil at his finest -- speaking truth to power.

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Neil Rocks on CNN
 

(This is still an amazing clip some 15+ years later)


So did "Living With War" become the rock equivalent to the film "Fahrenheit 9/11"? For critics, it seemed to be the case.


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 "CSNY DEJA VU" Film Poster - 2008
 
Part performance, part documentary and commentary, the film CSNY Déjà Vu is a call to peace and remains relevant today. Because if we ignore the lessons of history, we do so at our peril.
 
From album "Living With War", the title track's lyrics continue their prescient revelations on today's times. so, carry on.

 

 
[Try to remember peace (visualize) ]

"I join the multitudes
I raise my hand in peace
I never bow to the laws of the thought police
I take a holy vow
To never kill again
To never kill again

I'm living with war in my heart
I'm living with war in my heart and my mind
I'm living with war right now"


Despite what the critics wrote negatively about the album -- if nothing else -- Living With War was the most courageous album of 2006.


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More on CSNY: Deja Vu Film.

Also, see:
- Premiere of 'CSNY Deja Vu' at 2008 Sundance Film Festival
- Deja Vu Preview Footage on YouTube
- Interview at Sundance: Bernard Shakey Explains CSNY Deja Vu
- Concert film 'Deja Vu' polarizes Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young fans
- 2006 Crosby Stills Nash & Young Freedom of Speech Tour



Crosby Stills Nash & Young - 7/6/2006 - Camden, NJ
2006 Freedom of Speech Tour
photo by Buzz Person (via CSNY.net)



Also, see Crosby Stills Nash & Young Freedom of Speech tour comments. More at Commentary on Politics of CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour.  (Ah, those were the days.  If you think you're stressed today, you should've been here back in 2006. or is just deja vu all over yet again!?) 

And we'll probably do this again in 2032 ... if only ... at the least, for our "Families".

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UPDATE:  This week's Thrasher's Wheat Radio episode features our Special Guest Davy from Scotland who discusses the connections between albums Deja Vu and Living With War amidst the backdrop of ongoing global unrest.

 

   

Thrasher's Wheat Radio 2.0 Vodcast/Podcast - Episode #14
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Wednesday, March 09, 2022

"Live Music Is Better": Son Volt @ The Birchmere — 3/2/22

Son Volt
The Birchmere, Alexandria, Virginia - March 2, 2022
(photo by TW)

 

Last year, we had a rather life changing event occur where we can truly say that "The Music Saved Our Lives" -- both seriously and literally.

And -- as we discussed throughout 2020 & 2021 ... everybody knows "Live Music Is Better", of course. (Or, another example, "Live Music Is Better" - Mid-Summer 2021 Edition #2.) 

Earlier this month, we caught Son Volt at The Birchmere in Alexandria, Virginia on March 2, 2022 and it was pretty stupendous.  Stupendous mainly because we  were simply enjoying live music by one of what we consider to be just about the 2nd most influential musician that we've had the pleasure to enjoy over the decades to watch and grow -- Jay Farrar. 

Many know Jay Farrar as a member of  Uncle Tupelo, the band which spawned the whole No Depression/alt-rock-country movement of the 90's. The implosion of Uncle Tupelo led to Jeff Tweedy spinning off to form Wilco and Farrar forming Son Volt.  The rest is history, as they say.

From Live Review: Son Volt @ The Birchmere — 3/2/22 | ParkLifeDC 

At The Birchmere on March 2, the top half of the set included the first four tracks from Electro Melodier: “The Globe,” which opened the set, “Arkey Blue,” “Diamonds and Cigarettes,” and “Reverie.” “The Globe” was followed by “The 99,” a reference to the 99% — the song is about income inequality. Other songs from the first half of the set included “Back Against the Wall,” (which goes to similar territory as Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down,” without being a similar song), “While The World Waits,” “Sinking Down,” “Picking Up The Pieces, and “Hearts and Minds.”

After “Reverie,” the band reached into their songbook to deliver a smattering of fan favorites. I’ve already mentioned the three big ones from Trace; they also performed “Bandages & Scars,” an ode to Woody Guthrie; “Afterglow 61,” an homage to Bob Dylan’s “Highway 61,” “Driving the Route,” and “Medicine Hat.” For their encore, they did “Cherokee Street,” followed by the only cover of the evening, NRBQ’s “I Want You Bad.”

Son Volt are road warriors, almost certainly coming to a town near you. They play great music, the real shit, songs with substance that rock hard. Go see them. There may not be a lot of sizzle, but there’s plenty of steak, and you’ll go home feeling well-fed.

 Full concert review and photos @ Live Review: Son Volt @ The Birchmere — 3/2/22 | ParkLifeDC 

 
Jay Farrar w/ Son Volt 
The Birchmere, Alexandria, Virginia - March 2, 2022


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Sunday, January 30, 2022

UPDATED - Joni Mitchell Joins Neil Young In Removing Her Music from Spotify


Joni Mitchell and Neil Young - December, 1969
Heathrow Airport, England

 

UPDATED BELOW

In solidarity with Neil Young, Joni Mitchell has also requested that her music be removed from Spotify. 

(Thanks HtH!) 
 
 
For those just tuning in, Neil Young published a letter on his website Monday afternoon demanding that Spotify remove all of his music due to Joe Rogan's "vaccine disinformation"And shortly thereafter -- all hell broke loose here on this blog and elsewhere. (See here and here)

 

Neil Young Humor and International Affairs 
Weekend Update | Saturday Night Live - Jan. 29, 2022
(Thanks Timmo!)

As we often say: sooner or later, it all gets SURREAL. 

What started off in the mainstream as "an aging rocker yelling get off my lawn", has now mushroomed into an international media firestorm with calls ranging from #BoycottSpotify to #BoycottNeilYoung to #istandwithneilyoung.

Neil Young wants Spotify to remove popular podcast 'The Joe Rogan Experience'| KARE 11



Spotify shuts down their customer service lines. Thousands of listeners complain and cancel subscriptions over Spotify’s decision to support Joe Rogan and the misinformation he broadcasts, over Neil Young’s music.

 


SPOTIFY - IN THE NAME OF TRUTH / THANKS FOR STANDING WITH ME
via Times-Contrarian | NYA
 
 

 

For us here at Thrasher's Wheat, one of the most troubling aspects of this episode has been Neil Young's shifting positions on supporting free speech while calling for the deplatforming of those exercising that freedom. Furthermore, the man runs an online newspaper called Times-Contrarian?!  Irony alert.



Even civil libertarian columnist Glenn Greenwald faults Neil Young's incoherent logic,  writing "Pressure Campaign To Remove Joe Rogan From Spotify Reveals Liberal Religion Of Censorship."

 On Tuesday, musician Neil Young demanded that Spotify either remove Rogan from its platform or cease featuring Young's music, claiming Rogan spreads COVID disinformation. Spotify predictably sided with Rogan, their most popular podcaster in whose show they invested $100 million, by removing Young's music and keeping Rogan. The pressure on Spotify mildly intensified on Friday when singer Joni Mitchell issued a similar demand. All sorts of censorship-mad liberals celebrated this effort to remove Rogan, then vowed to cancel their Spotify subscription in protest of Spotify's refusal to capitulate for now; a hashtag urging the deletion of Spotify's app trended for days. Many bizarrely urged that everyone buy music from Apple instead; apparently, handing over your cash to one of history's largest and richest corporations, repeatedly linked to the use of slave labor, is the liberal version of subversive social justice. [ed; emphasis added]

 
Neil Young's music still on Spotify on January 28
(thanks Timmo!)

 

In addition to Apple,  Neil Young encourages "folks looking for my music can easily head to AMAZON MUSIC and click here https://bit.ly/NYA_AmazonMusic - all new listeners will get four months free."

And Sirius XM has re-launched the  Neil Young Channel.

Neil Young Channel: Sirius XM


Furthermore,  as Adam Carolla said recently:

"Their [artists] job is to push back against the man and Neil Young should know the man isn’t Joe Rogan, the man is Dr. Fauci, the man is Governor Gavin Newsom, the man is the CDC, the man is the WHO, the man is Biden," said Carolla.

 


And, oddly, both Young and Mitchell now support Big Pharma? 

This has been rationalized by the observation that both Young and Mitchell suffered with Polio as children, took vaccines, and subsequently recovered. (For details, see Broken Arrow "Neil Young - Polio Case - The 1951 Ontario Polio Outbreak" by Chris Rutty, Issue #36, page #14. Next, read "The Moth in the Iron Lung: A Biography of Polio" by Forrest Maready.)

Also, in 2015,  Neil Young released the album Monsanto Years which was heavily critical of Big Ag and GMOs.  And why the inconsistency of being critical of Big Ag and supportive of Big Pharma? (See Strange Bedfellows: GMO and Vaccine Partnerships)

 


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Does Rogan give space to some crackers views about the Covid vaccines? Yep. So what? 
 
And I ask that as someone who is very pro-vaccination. 
 
If you dislike what Rogan says, then set up your own podcast to counter him. How about doing that, Neil Young? You could be pro-science for a change.

Here’s the thing about Rogan: his success is the least mysterious thing in the 21st-century media landscape. It is the colonisation of the mainstream media by woke elites who all think in the exact same way, and who will hound you off their turf if you don’t, that created the conditions in which a questioning, dissenting pod like Rogan’s could become a global phenomenon. It is the mainstream media’s failures that birthed the success of Rogan and others; it is the stifling of free, frank, deep discussion in the old media that created the space for new media to emerge and flourish. 
 
The old hippy Neil Young would have understood that; the newly square Neil Young clearly doesn’t.
 

Obviously, not everyone is seeing the censorship/disinformation subject  in the same light.  A comment on "Comments of the Moment: Neil Young's "The COVID Years", Joe Rogan, Spotify and Vaccine Disinformation" by Aer:
 
Some thoughts at the end of the week. 
 
The hype and loudest headlines and click bait now seems mostly based on the can't have both, "They can have Rogan or Young. Not both." which I read as an aside after Neil's decision to not be affiliated with Spotify. Media headline click bait focus was misleading, and the short letter was removed and replaced by the long piece a day or two later restating intentions and reasons more completely.
 
I don't see a censorship advocacy at all. I see a person that doesn't like the direction of an organization he has a contract with, and wants out. It was Neil's decision to leave. Spotify still states they want him back. I see it like a Manager of a baseball team not liking the direction of the Front Office, that it doesn't fit with his MO, so he leaves. I respect that. No censorship is really a part or was requested. 
 
Neil doesn't want to be on the same team as Rogan. There are many other Rogan shows on the subject other than the one with Malone, which was very informative and interesting, and I recommend people who have not heard it to hear it, to be aware and have it part of your circle of awareness. (Malone seemed a bit bitter about his current role in the progression, but that was maybe my take, and not the takeaway from the episode). Rogan admits he is prone to saying shit that is not vetted and not factual and true. So I don't buy the sensational accusations of "Censorship" headline bait here. I have left jobs that I decided I was a bad fit for. My decisions. Not theirs. I get it.

Musicians are collectively getting shorted in payments for their art, while subsidizing the Rogan contract.... but that is another whole discussion of the streaming situation. This discussion... should not be about censorship, but a man that doesn't fit on the team, is not the biggest $ maker for them, and doesn't want to be affiliated anymore for reasons clearly stated. Not stopping free speech, not wanting to stop free speech, just separating from the same platform. I respect and understand that. I bet we see others (Joni Mitchell already has) follow. 
 
It doesn't seem like a fit to me to have Neil guest on a JRE episode, but it would be interesting for them to be the panel on a third party show like Real Time with Bill Maher.
Thanks for comments here Aer. Having been de-platformed ourselves, we have directly experienced the heavy hand of Big Tech and the damage done. Being de-platformed in today's world, is often the equivalent of troopers going into an artist's studio, smashing all of their art and then burning down their studio.  A life's work is gone.  It happens on YouTube, FaceBook, Twittter and elsewhere everyday.

“I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.”
Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
So instead of censorship and de-platforming, we urge #disCERNment at all times.
 
 Joe Rogan and Neil Young
 
From "Spotify Has Officially Become The Battleground For Big Tech's Censorship Civil War" on Qoute The Raven's Fringe Finance:

The fact is you are either for politicians, elites, and large technology companies dictating what you can and can not have the right to consider when making decisions, or you support the idea of being able to consider opinions from all ends of the spectrum in order to make your personal decisions.

You are either an advocate for stifling one entire half of an argument - which admittedly may contain the boogeyman disguised as some actual misinformation - or you are pro freedom of speech and an individual’s right to decide for themselves.

And most importantly, you either have the wherewithal to understand that the official narrative has, and will, continue to get things wrong (vaccines would wipe out Covid, for example) and that opinions labeled as “misinformation” and “conspiracy theories” can sometimes turn out to be the objective truth (like the lab leak ‘theory’), or you don’t.

If your intentions are only to seek out objective truths, why would you turn away anyone’s opinion before sifting away at all available information before trying to arrive at the facts?

These are questions and concepts that Spotify needs to be asking itself very carefully.

While, from a monetary standpoint, canceling Joe Rogan may, at some point, look like it makes sense on paper, the music giant needs to ask itself at the end of the day: are they the battleground for something even more important than money?

We have yet to see a mainstream big tech company take a serious stand against censorship.  Spotify: are you prepared to be the first?


 

In an unrelated -- but related -- side note, recall ...

In early 2021, Hipgnosis buys 50% of Neil Young catalog.  And here is the prospectus for Hipgnosis. Then in October 2021,   The Blackstone Group, an alternative investment management company, announced that it would partner with Hipgnosis to invest $1bn US to acquire song catalogs and music rights. It also announced that Blackstone would take an ownership stake in Hipgnosis Song Management.” [60]

 

Footnote 60:  "Blackstone Unveils Music Investment Deal With Merck Mercuriadis". Bloomberg.com. 2021-10-12. Retrieved 2021-10-15.  "Blackstone announces appointment of Jeffrey B. Kindler, Former Chairman and CEO of Pfizer, as Senior Advisor"

 


 

Lastly,  “Spotify lost $4 billion in market value this week after rock icon Neil Young called out the company for allowing comedian Joe Rogan to use its service to spread misinformation about the COVID vaccine on his popular podcast, 'The Joe Rogan Experience,’” is how The San Francisco Chronicle put it (that Spotify's stock price dropped rather precipitously contemporaneously with this controversy is clear; less so is the causal connection, though it seems unlikely to be entire coincidental).


"On Jan. 27, Spotify stock hit a 19-month low.  

Spotify has lost $4 billion in market value over past few months"

 

 

sooner or later, it all gets SURREAL...  

 More on Neil Young's "The COVID Years", Joe Rogan, Spotify and Vaccine Disinformation.


UPDATE - Jan 31: From comment by Dan below:

A load of new letters to the editor on NYA and they are all Spotify related. 

Some in support of Neil and some have canceled their subscription. Neil states that they have had more subscribers sign up than ever before in the last week. The whole free speech argument is why this blew up, but as far as I can see….. it’s clearly not an viable issue as both sides are getting what they want. If someone is publicly giving false and potentially dangerous information to millions of people, then someone needs to hold them accountable. Everyone is free to speak their mind about anything, but when it is potentially dangerous to others then we all need to know. 

Free speech requires us not to endanger others lives in the process.

 

 

Here at Thrasher's Wheat, we would also like to apologize for some of our coverage and comments around de-platforming and censorship.  While we found the entire episode confusing initially because Neil Young's Spotify letter was pulled down before we read it (and then the internet went wild with speculation), Neil's statement above is very clear on subject.

Spotify has agreed to post "content advisory" labels on podcasts.  Also, on Instagram below, Joe Rogan discusses Spotify controversy and tells story about working Security at a Neil Young concert @ ~5:00.

 

Joe Rogan Discusses Neil Young @ ~5:00


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