Timeline Concerts on Neil Young Archives + Comment of the Moment: New NYA Membership Tiers: Rust & Patron
With the recent announcement of Neil Young Archives Membership Tiers: Rust & Patron, more details have been forthcoming on the "Timeline Concert of the Week" feature.
The "Timeline Concert of the Week" feature is now available to members at the Rust tier level with streams of live concerts from Neil Young's entire career. "Rust" subscribers can also exchange memories and stories with other subscribers. Some concerts are already accessible via the timeline, more will be added over time. Subscribers can send inquiries and express requests.
Timeline Concerts -- previously 320kbs mp3’s -- are now in full 24/96 resolution.
The 1st Timeline Concert is Neil Young + Promise of the REAL @ SSE Arena - Belfast, Northern Ireland on Jun 7, 2016 from 2016 Rebel Content Tour USA & Europe.
While all of this is fantastic news for so many Neil fans around the EARTH, there are some who feel that this is yet another "cough up the buck$" move. A comment by Aer:
All these tiers do is find a way to suck more money from those that are already buying all the physical product, going to shows, and buying the merch. 150 million and counting. He could just keep improving his passion project without the tiers. He's gonna do it anyway, even if it doesn't pay...... but it looks like Neil is still gonna go for that extra Benjamin each year, too, for as long as he lives longer than we do, unless he thinks he can get more in years to come. It is, after all, the United States of America.
Yes, Aer, as you say: "It is, after all, the United States of America." And Neil -- while always an artist first -- seems to have very carefully plotted all of this over the past 5 decades. Never selling his song and publishing rights (until just 2 months ago), retaining every lyric scrap, every tape, every mix, literally everything. He's had this vision and has achieved it practically single handed in terms of the driving visionary force.
As a longtime fan who practically lived with the 1977 Decade retrospective album for years, expectantly awaiting Decade II, this is all a dream come true. In our lifetime and Neil's. Too many artists and fans have died before they could get their due or celebrate the history.

Uncropped Image for Neil Young's Decade
by Tom Wilkes
(See Neil Young's Decade: The Images Behind The Album Cover )
Which brings us to the TW Comment of the Moment: MAJOR NEIL YOUNG ANNOUNCEMENT - New NYA Membership Tiers: Rust & Patron by the "Inextinguishable Scotsman", in response to Aer's criticism above:
Aer Stephen: Appreciate your comment.
We have to remember there are a lot of fans out there who aren't really active on forums, blogs etc. And so the online buzz you get is often from an echo chamber of fans with a particular worldview.
There is a whole community of fans who grew up trading tapes, collecting them, going to gigs etc. And the website can begin to connect these people who may not have been enthusiastic subscribers up until now.
No, there probably isn't this huge base of new fans out there...but there are plenty of "old" fans who haven't fully been engaged yet.
(Fair point - some of these people have either lost interest or are now dead).
But the beauty of a higher price, of course, is that Neil doesn't need many more fans: because each one is contributing more.
I have no objection to (optional) higher prices, as long as the website delivers more than it has been delivering. Better things tend to cost more money...and why not?
If, in a year's time, we are saying to each other "well, we paid extra - and it was so worth it", then it will have been a success.
(And yes, that is a big "if".)
You hit on another great point. The danger of a tier system is that it can become a vertical show of status that alienates anybody who chooses anything other than "top tier". Fine if you want to sell luxury products, but not good for building a grassroots community.
But the upside of a tier system, when handled well, is it allows different offers to target different sorts of people more precisely.
The "patron" option allows people to feel good about contributing more without the people in the other tiers feeling unfairly discriminated against. And I think that's a good thing.
Do I think *some* of the marketing for Neil Young products recently has been an outrageous cash-grab? Hell yes.
But overall, I think trying to make the the NYA website stand on its own two feet is a worthwhile idea.
Neil says he wants NYA to be an example that other musicians can follow. Well, Neil, it's not much of a great example if (with all your extreme wealth and power) you can't actually make a profit!
That's not very encouraging for those of us without a few hundred million in the bank, is it?
The *best* example NYA can set is by making a sustainable profit that is re-invested into making the experience ever more powerful for its subscribers.
And the way to make a profit isn't to be greedy. It isn't to rip people off with false promises of scarcity, or to treat the customers as wallet-happy idiots to be fleeced.
(Sure, that approach makes a profit; and then everybody leaves and you're left all alone, with your money and your greed).
No, the way forward is to offer a damn-good experience that is easily worth paying extra for. An experience that builds and builds and builds until it simply can't be ignored.
No,this isn't the sort of stuff they'll teach you in the 1983 record company handbook. What else is new?
Scotsman.
Thank you both Aer & Scotsman. As you both know, our reader comments are vital and we love to hear directly from our fellow rusties.
We'll leave all of this right here. As always, we all make choices under our own true free will. It is our divine right as sovereign individuals to choose and make informed decisions that is most paramount to us, as a citizen. And as a consumer., as well. Yeah, there's a lot of crap and bullshit for sure everywhere you look. And no one likes to get ripped off.
As long as the marketplace of ideas is open,unfettered and uncensored, then the choice is yours to buy, hold or sell.
TW promotes the open free exchange of information amongst fans. If this helps someone make a decision, then we feel we have done our job and separated the wheat from the chaff.
peace to Aer, Scotsman and all.
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Many thanks to Neil for this tantalizing description.
With greatest respect to Dionys, I second Old Black’s motion for a release. I never expected another Homegrown, Chrome Dreams, etc. I’m not looking for perfection, revolution, or Revelation. I just am particularly fascinated by this period of Neil’s (and the Horse’s) career—Toast sounds like something of a lost link between SWA, AYP?, and the latter day Horse outings.
AYP? has long commanded attention from me, despite (or because?) of its idiosyncrasies and drawbacks. I think that’s partly because the same darkness, sadness, uneasy melancholy that Neil associates with Toast remains latent in AYP? as we know it. It’s somewhat oblique in the title track and others, but themes of losing love, regrets, and yearnings run through the set, albeit a bit camouflaged by the polish and swing of the MGs. A long time ago, I gave She’s a Healer the designation of “soul grunge”. I meant it as a compliment and I stand by that assessment.
That being said, I can understand why it wasn’t the first thing on Pancho’s mind when asked by RS about the Horse vaults. The sessions were probably not the happiest memories. Then again, look at TtN or SWA—sometimes, potent art comes out of pain. SWA may be my favorite post-Rust Neil, so clearly I appreciate the “sad” records. At their best, I find they can be incredibly cathartic.
I’ll just say that my feeling on Toast is more about curiosity than expectation and leave it at that.
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That said, many artists tend to be "over-sharers", or at least relatively uninhibited about expressing themselves through their work.
Much like Homegrown, Toast may have been "too much" at the time, but my broad reading of Neil's comments is that, in the end, he wants to share it. If I detected greater reluctance, I might very well adjust my tone for sensitivity. On the other hand, it's difficult to imagine anything more unvarnished or soul-bearing than SWA, Homegrown, or the Ditch albums. I feel many of us are used to be experiencing a full spectrum of emotional territories with and through Neil's music. We shouldn't take it all for granted, of course, but it does seem to have become a way of life--for Ny and for many of us.
As an aside, I was unaware or had forgotten the Toast/Coast connection with John Coltrane. As far as I'm concerned, anything inspired by Coltrane is probably worth hearing. Interesting that, with AYP?, Neil ultimately went instead for the soul/rhythm and blues idiom, the common thread being the white rocker's heartfelt tribute to the deep well of black sounds that flows through the soil (and soul) of American popular music.
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In my opinion, and I could be wrong since I am wasn’t there at the time, SWA is as much about the tragedy of Kurt Cobain as AYP? is about 9/11. In other words, the event had a heavy impact on how the project turned out, but most of the content is not directly related and much of it was already in place beforehand.
I suspect the other poster was referring to the sound and overall feeling of the albums in question. Thinking of say, the subtle jazz undertones of Safeway Cart or the moody noise of Blue Eden, the ambiance Neil ascribes to Toast seems not entirely dissimilar. Aside from memories or fuzzy fan films of the ‘01 Horse tour (the one where Poncho said everything sounded Latin), the only direct evidence we currently have for the sound of Toast is Goin’ Home as transposed onto AYP? I can hear a passing resemblance to SWA’s title track, though the subject matter is obviously different. I’m sure Toast is distinct from SWA and vice versa, but it would make sense if some of the Horse sound developed between SWA and YOH carried over in some form to these sessions.
Finally, I would say that although it’s probably not possible to dissociate SWA from Cobain once that emotional connection is established, I do think it’s theoretically possible that, if you could find someone who had never heard of Kurt Cobain, they could still listen to SWA and get a lot out of it; likewise for AYP? if perchance we could play it for aliens with no knowledge of 9/11. “
‘It’s old but it’s good’, like any other primitive would.”