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Thursday, August 25, 2022

Comment of the Moment: Sound Mix of Albums "TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" by Neil Young

"TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 

 

The Comment of the Moment is from Concert Film "Noise & Flowers" by Neil Young + Promise of the Real | Hearse Theater | NYA by  the "intrepid, inconsolable, & inflammable" Scotsman:

(Off topic – sorry.)

Do we know when Toast (the released version) was mixed?

Because if you listen to the Are You Passionate mix of Goin' Home, you can instantly hear why Crazy Horse (from the other side of the mixing control room) weren't totally impressed by these recording sessions back in 2001.

The mix is limp and grey and flat sounding (what I call the "wet cardboard" effect). The vocal is tentative — it struggles to find the melody, and is submerged by the guitars. The lead guitar hits a series of bum notes that kill the mood.

The bass has no real depth or presence. The overdubs might as well not be there. Poncho's masterful second-guitar performance is buried.

And in the end, Neil just aborts the performance.

The feeling is: "this isn't quite working". Which is frustrating. For the musicians and producer and the listener.

But the mix on Toast is the opposite of all that. And it's the *same* take — the same version! Neil and John Hanlon knew there was something special in this performance, and they went in and brought it to the surface.

This is an album where the production, the overdubs and the mixing all play a huge part in the success of the music.

That's not a criticism! The production is part of the art.

Similarly, many people wear makeup to accentuate their natural beauty. Nothing wrong with that, and it's the same principle.

In the music world, an audible sense of production only becomes a problem when a) it detracts from the music's natural beauty and b) when the production covers up a lack of substance.

(Much of Le Noise, in my opinion, is an example of the latter. The production is impressive, but the effect is a hollow one.)

On Toast, extensive work has gone into making Goin' Home sound as good as humanly possible. The bum notes have been chopped (as minimally as possible), the vocal has been heavily compressed to even it out and add some heft, there's a 3D sense of vocal echo, the abrupt ending is faded out...

It sounds magical. And, unlike the Are You Passionate attempt, it's been mixed with both gutsy horsepower and real colour. This is the spirit of David Briggs in the mixing room.

The Are You Passionate mix of Goin' Home is like a documentary. We might imagine it's Neil telling us "this is why I re-recorded this album".

Whereas the Toast mix is designed to take this rough diamond of a performance and present it to the world in the best light possible.

PS: the mixes of Goin' Home are different enough that some listeners have imagined them to be two different takes. Understandable!

But there are some extra overdubs on the Toast mix — so the two aren't musically identical.

E.g notice the twinkling piano (and what sounds like the church organ) rising out of the mix just before the final guitar solo — helping propel it into a higher gear.

I think these are inspired touches, instantly reminding of the overdubs we hear on Drive Back from Zuma. Another power-chord-based song that somehow feels entirely different to its 2001 cousin.

Scotsman.

No worries on off topic.

Sometimes off topic leads back to focus on what truly matters. And never stop being your  "intrepid, inconsolable, & inflammable" self Mr. Scotsman.

"TOAST":  
Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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Sunday, July 24, 2022

Comment of the Moment: "Dream PlayList" of "TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" by Neil Young

"TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 
 

Lots of great discussion here on "TOAST" by our passionate TW commenters.

The Comment of the Moment is a reply to another CotM by Tomatron and a "Dream Playlist" by Meta Rocker:

This is a great CotM. 

Refreshing to have some in-depth music discussion. Sets a tone much preferable, in my opinion, to some other recent threads.

Tomatron's playlist has inspired me to experiment with my own, which I have some history of doing anyway. Placing Boom Boom Boom at the start is a brilliant idea and I, too, see Quit as a bookend song, though I didn't end up with quite the same arrangement in my own permutation.

Firstly, in the interests of creating a listening experience that provides unity, flow, and symmetry, I would normally have reservations about using more than one recording of the same song. However, the Toast vs. AYP? versions are (mostly) different enough in flavor to merit showcasing both. With one exception: I decided not to include the same take of Goin' Home twice, simply opting for the longer AYP? mix with the abrupt coda.

So, to begin with a large slice of toast:

1. Boom Boom Boom
2. Standin' in the Light of Love

Can't add much to what has already been said about these tracks. Next, however, I exercise a free hand, a compromise between the running order heard on AYP? and the note cards pictured on the back cover:

3. When I Hold you in My arms
4. Be with You
5.Mr. Disappointment
6. You're My Girl
7. Differently

This portion quenches the fire of Standing in the Light, cooling things down with a touch of romance and ample time to soak in the bright, sunny sound of the M.G.'s.

8. Two Old Friends
9. Timberline

I like these two next two each other, because of the common religious themes and the stark contrast in tone. Of all the tracks, I struggled the most with where/how to fit in Timberline, until saw the potential of exploiting tension between this song and Two Old Friends. From here out, attentive listeners may also notice the tone of the songs growing darker and grittier. In narrative terms of rising action, this is the middle of the story. The innermost circle. Things start to get complicated.

10. Goin' Home
11. Let's Roll
12. Are you Passionate?

Again, this segment is lifted wholesale from the note cards on the back of AYP?, read left to right. Goin' Home is halted in its tracks (the abrupt, drop-off ending) by Let's Roll. 9/11 brought cataclysmic change, casting a heavy shadow over everything that came before. To hear the music stop cold for the intro to Let's Roll perfectly captures this feeling.

13. Quit (Don't Say you Love me)

Relief from all the brooding, piercing tension of the title song, a ray of hope. This is another nice transition I picked up from that back cover of AYP?, on which the title song and Quit are positioned back to back, with the latter capping off the entire sequence. In this case, I've used it as a gentle lead-in for the final act:

14. Gateway of Love
15. How you Doin'?
16. She's a Healer
17. Quit (Toast version)

Maybe Gateway ended up in a climactic position because I'm so partial to it, but for me, it is clearly the emotional and musical peak of the Toast cycle. How you Doin'? follows as the ultimate anti-climax and She's a Healer puts us back where we started. 

Finally, I take the calculated risk of sequencing the Toast version of Quit only a few tracks after the AYP? cut. First of all, because Quit works so well as a soft, yearning yet ambivalent coda, a release of tension after the fireworks of the previous numbers. 

What's more, I hope the combo of Gateway and Healer will have left more than enough distance (musically and emotionally) between the two Quits.

Addendum: Long time readers will know re-configuring AYP? is one of my favorite "games", treating the back cover like an ancient hieroglyph or cipher, an Emerald Tablet of sorts to read *through* rather than simply look at passively: the hermetics of Neil Young, no? To be able, after all these years, to include the Toast cuts is very satisfying. Although these two albums are quite distinctive, they do illuminate aspects of one another. The common link, instrumentally, seems to be Neil's guitar (also Pancho's): "All I got is a broken heart and I don't try to hide it when I play my guitar."

The extended Horse workouts of Toast speak for themselves, but the textured guitar tone throughout the AYP? album is extraordinarily underrated. Even the "vanilla" When I Hold You in My Arms ends with a series of tender, lyrical licks. 

For Neil, the solos are unusually restrained and crafted, which may be why they are overlooked, but the best passages (Quit, Mr. Disappointment) are totally sublime.

What a great Playlist Meta Rocker.  Thanks so much to both Tomatron & MR for the playlist which expand and build off of one another plus TOAST & AYP?

Here's what Tomatron replied back to Meta Rocker -- and we couldn't put it any better:

Ian, your playlist was a blast to consider. 

I especially like the closing four tracks. Originally I was looking at a finish similar to that one. 

Gateway has such a climactic feel, and it’s sequenced as such on Toast. You have chosen a freer approach to this arrangement. 

For my running order, i wanted above all to maintain fidelity to the albums’ own sequencing as I combined them. I ended up setting Gateway as the peak of the Toast chunk so that Healer could hold that position at the end. Making the two mixes of Goin Home work was the trickiest, since I didn’t want to leave off any tracks but they are literally the same performance. 

So I’m treating them as representations of the records they inhabit. On Toast, Goin’ Home is a proper chapter of a longer story. On AYP it’s a total departure, its meaning obfuscated by the lack of context. 

Having that edition come later with the full ending revealed seemed to solve the problem of how to reconcile these two versions together.

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Wednesday, July 20, 2022

Comment of the Moment: VIDEO: Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse @ Fuji Rock Festival 2001

Neil Young - 2001

 

The Comment of the Moment is from post VIDEO: Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse @ Fuji Rock Festival 2001 by Tomatron:

Great time for the Horse. 

When the timeline concert from that tour was uploaded, the melody from Gateway really stuck in my head. And that’s no small feat since those things aren’t the most easily accessed content, other than the concert of the moment. 

But the tune kept coming back to me. Neil now expresses real regret over not having released Toast at the time. I say, don’t be so hard on yourself, sir. Are You Passionate, while not a banger in its time, has grown in appreciation from the fanbase. For me, it beats out the three studio albums that followed. If he had put out Toast like he says he should’ve, AYP would never have been. And I venture to say Toast, for its part, could very likely have been panned at the time. 

Now, with patience, we have both records. What a treat. Can they be reconciled into one grand statement? With the magic of playlists, this is possible.

Here’s my favorite way to overdo it:

1. Boom Boom Boom

I just really love this song as a warm up to the journey to come. It’s totally original, with plenty of space between the notes for the studio stank to seep through. Plus, it was one of the first tunes recorded for the sessions and is a more tantalizing introduction than either of the albums’ kickoff tracks. 

2. You’re My Girl
3. Mr. Disappointment
4. Differently
5. Quit (Don’t Say You Love Me)

Since AYP was what we heard first, it’s only fair to proceed with a quadruple threat from that 2002 CD. You’re My Girl is just the sweetest dedication that I bet a lot of parents can relate to. Then you get immersed in the MGs’ treatment of otherwise unheard Toast material and the super soulful Differently and practically go swimming in that soupy B-3 sound. 

6. Standing In The Light Of Love
7. Goin’ Home
8. Timberline
9. Gateway Of Love
10. How Ya Doin’?

This is a perfect point to switch off into Horse territory. We are ready to rock! Standing In The Light Of Love was the first fully Toast Toast we got to hear. It kicks ass. The heart of Toast remains intact and the heartbroken vibe does not let up for over half an hour. Awesome. I think that’s enough time to return to Mr. Disappointment; he sounds even more disappointed with the slower tempo and more honest voice. 


11. Let’s Roll
12. Are You Passionate?
13. Goin’ Home
 

Yes, that moment is here. That moment when we listen to Let’s Roll. We can’t skip Let’s Roll, can’t pretend it didn’t happen. When heard as an ode to the bravery of regular people in the face of terror rather than as the hawkish call to deployment it could be taken for, Let’s Roll is actually a pretty cool song, and the band more than do it justice. Somehow, despite all the strife of blowing off one record for the next, enduring pained relationships and national trauma, a loose narrative still seemed to break through in Neil Young’s sequencing of AYP, something we can see he took seriously with all the possible permutations of song orders on the back cover. The family and marriage themes of the early tracks give way to the shock of attack and burden of war. Nothing else needs to be said about the title track but it’s perfect and beautiful. And what an impact the AYP version of Goin’ Home made, and makes still. We all love the brutal drumming and the brutal ending. It was a characteristic stroke of genius to include one Crazy Horse song on the album, and it was *this* song. This is the mythical Crazy Horse, from the lost sessions. It retains this quality here. 


14. When I Hold You In My Arms
15. Be With You
16. Two Old Friends
17. She’s A Healer


And yet, Are You Passionate rolls on. Again, contrasts are crucial when it comes to the flow of an album, a film, a story or work of art of any kind. The epic bleakness of Goin’ Home gives way to the folksy hand wringing of When I Hold You In My Arms, and it wouldn’t have worked better in any configuration. We are lucky to have the ebullient Be With You to buoy us up into the warm embrace of the best Motown feel the MGs have to offer. And Two Old Friends, a fan favorite, serves the purpose of relieving some of the weighty themes posed by the mid-album 9/11 inspired songs before She’s A Healer performs a similar function for the heartsick husband of the earlier tracks. Thrasher’s Wheat contributors seem to generally agree Healer is a high point of the record and possibly exceeds the excellence of its Toast counterpart. Either way, it’s a hell of a finale.
18. Quit


Ok, I’ll say it. This is the superior version of the song. The funny thing is, the two are so alike, they should stay as far apart as possible: 20 years, or at least the better part of a playlist’s distance. But that’s not the only reason Quit landed here. Inclusion as a coda to our listen symbolizes the wait we had to finally hear Toast. And the sadness of “don’t say you love me” turned out to be the truest end to this story, taking us back to the beginning in a legendary little San Francisco recording studio. 

Let’s go listen to Toast again, on vinyl this time.

Thanks for our Comment of the Moment Tomatron!  What a playlist. As you say,  the magic of playlists makes this all possible.

More on post VIDEO: Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse @ Fuji Rock Festival 2001.

 


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Monday, July 18, 2022

VIDEO: Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse @ Fuji Rock Festival, 2001-07-28

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2001-07-28, Naeba Ski Resort, Naeba, Japan
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Much discussion lately regarding the "lost masterpieces" uneARThed on TOAST album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse.
 
Here is a rare video of Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse @ Fuji Rock Festival, Japan on 2001-07-28. (thanks Ron!) 

 

 

"Goin' Home" @ ~24:00:00.  Also, be sure to check Poncho pounding on Neil's back @ ~28:00:00.  And check Larry Cragg on piano @ ~29:00:00 pounding away.

 

Neil Young - 2001

 

"TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 
 

 

Also, see:

  • Comment of the Moment #2: First Impressions - Toast by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse 
  • Comment of the Moment: First Impressions - Toast by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse
  • REVIEW: "TOAST" - Unreleased 2001 Album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse | Davy's Cinema Flicks & Music Picks
  • First Impressions: Toast by Neil Young with Crazy Horse | The Old Grey Cat 
  • Comment of the Moment: Neil Young's Unreleased 2001 Album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse
  • "TOAST" Finally Pops: Unreleased 2001 album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse
  •  Comment of the Moment: PREMEIRE: "Timberline" from Neil Young's unreleased 2001 album "Toast" w/ Crazy Hors
  • PREMIERE: "Timberline" from Neil Young's  unreleased 2001 album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse 
  • Comment of the Moment: "TOAST": Neil Young's Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse Set for 8th July, 2022
  • Comment of the Moment on "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album by Tony "Hambone" Hammond in the UK.  (See  "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album.)
  • More on interview with Frank “Poncho” Sampedro, Neil Young, Crazy Horse Guitarist [discusses TOAST] | The Aquarium Drunkard. 
  • Also, see ‘Are You Passionate?’ Turns 10 Years Old and Neil Young's Album of the Week: 'Are You Passionate?' + Defending AYP?
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    Sunday, July 17, 2022

    REVIEW: Neil Young 64: Toast | Everybody’s Dummy

    "TOAST":  
    Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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    From Neil Young 64: Toast | Everybody’s Dummy: 

     

    A distinct improvement is “Gateway Of Love”, which was teased on the back cover of Passionate and played live with the Horse throughout that summer. 

    It’s the only track we hear that has the “Latin influence” Poncho Sampedro mentioned in interviews about the shelved album; most of that is in the drums, while the bass could go either way. “How Ya Doin’?” is an odd title for what became “Mr. Disappointment”, since that question only surfaced in the later recording. This earlier version is sung in Neil’s natural voice, rather than the low rasp he adopted for the album. “Boom Boom Boom” is the same song as “She’s A Healer”, except that it’s longer and taken just a tad slower. Once again the eventual title features prominently in the lyrics, while the initial title does not. At thirteen minutes it does drag, but the jazzy bridge stands out more, and Tom Bray adds a trumpet, just as he would on the later album. 

    Neil overdubbed a few stabs at a piano, and somebody’s playing the vibes and tapping bongos. 

    Thanks Wardo!  So,  Neil Young review #64??!  Quite a run of reviews.  Onto the next 64 reviews.

     

    "TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 
     

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    Comment of the Moment #2: First Impressions - Toast by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse

     
    "TOAST":  
    Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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    The Comment of the Moment is from the post First Impressions - Toast by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse by Ron:


    I have been really enjoying listening to Toast on NYA (is it OK to ‘enjoy’ it given the subject matter?

    I guess Neil wouldn’t have released it if not). Great to read on here what other people think too – many great comments and insights.

    I saw Neil and Crazy Horse in June 2001 at the NEC Birmingham England on their Eurotour ‘01 and I have been thinking about that show a lot and reflecting on the setlist and performances given what we now know about the background. Of course I didn’t know it at the time but Toast had been recorded the preceding Nov/Dec/Feb.

    Goin’ Home was a major highlight for me that night. The battle drums, instantly catchy melody and epic soloing received a great reaction from the crowd. They followed this with When I Hold You In My Arms. Neil sitting on a stool playing piano with Old Black strapped on his back and switching effortlessly between the two throughout the song was great to see. I liked this song and performance a lot, but it was strikingly different to what had gone before it and not typical for Crazy Horse. Of course I can now see that Neil had already recorded it in May with Booker T and the MGs so it makes more sense now.

    Standing in the Light of Love and Gateway of Love were the first songs following a short acoustic set from Neil. I thought these were good at the time but they were kind of overshadowed as they were followed by Hey Hey My My, Like a Hurricane, Sedan Delivery, Rockin’ in the Free World and F*!#in’ Up. The intro to Gateway was so long I thought it was maybe going to be an instrumental. I now love the Toast version of Gateway of Love though.

    All in all it was a great show and had me eagerly looking forward to the next album. I found a great version of Goin’ Home from Montreux on YouTube and played that regularly but when Are You Passionate? came out in April 2002 I have to say for me it was quite a disappointment. I was expecting/hoping for a Crazy Horse album I guess. The sound of Goin’ Home didn’t seem quite right and somehow didn’t quite live up to the live performance. It was still my favourite track on the album though. I know others really like this album, and I like some of Neil’s guitar playing on it and some of the lyrics were strikingly personal even then, but I am not a big fan overall and much prefer the Toast versions of the songs that are on both. The tracks I have listened to most since it came out are the ones that are also on Toast plus the closing Are You Passionate? track. I think it would be great to hear Crazy Horse tackle this song.

    So last night I watched a recording of Neil and Crazy Horse from the Fuji festival July 2001 on YouTube. This show immediately followed the completion of Eurotour ’01 and was just 6 weeks after I saw them in Birmingham. The recording is not the complete show as it does not have the closing run of classics but it includes Goin’ Home, When I Hold You In My Arms, Standing In the Light of Love and Gateway of Love. The performances are great and I can thoroughly recommend it to anyone interested to see how Neil and Crazy Horse performed these songs back then.

    One thing that struck me watching the show was the choice of the other tracks that made up the setlist for that tour. Given what Neil has said now about his personal life at that time, the inclusion of Don’t Cry No Tears, I’ve Been Waiting For You and Only Love Can Break Your Heart for example are perhaps more significant than I realised back then.

    So in conclusion and as others have said what a great time to be a Neil fan! So much to listen to and watch. Neil sounds pretty excited about the new album with Rick Rubin – can’t wait! 


    Thanks much for the comment Ron.  We need to check out the Fuji festival 2001 --  its been quite awhile.  So great you made it to the 2001 concerts and are able to share your journey to the future with us.

     

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    Friday, July 15, 2022

    Neil Young Achieves 46th Career Top 40 Album with TOAST

    "TOAST":  
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    Per Official Charts, Neil Young has notched yet another Top 40 Album with TOAST (#23 this week), which marks his 46th career Top 40 album. 

     

    "TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 
     

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    Thursday, July 14, 2022

    Comment of the Moment: First Impressions - Toast by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse

    "TOAST" & "Are You Passionate?" 
     
     

    Our Comment of the Moment is on post First Impressions: Toast by Neil Young with Crazy Horse | The Old Grey Cat by Lone Red Rider:


    I've been listening to Toast on ATMOS. 

    Some may recall that Toast was recorded for 5.1 surround. ATMOS is as close as I think we can get to the original intent of the album. I recommend paying extra close attention to Ralph's playing. He is the unsung hero of this album. His playing is so masterfully creative that it almost invokes the Beatles. His textures hold so much to hear. And the production and mix really showcase his contributions so excellently. Usually I say that Poncho is Crazy Horse's unsung hero for what he brings to the songs. But this time it's pure Ralph, making this one of the most satisfying NYCH listens there is. To get this album at this particular point in the band's career is nothing short of a gift. 

    I would place the songs of 2001 in a pre-911 batch and a post-911 batch. The pre-911 batch are best represented by Toast. Post 9/11 you can pick the remaining songs from AYP and maybe add in Neil's live take of Imagine. After 9/11 it seems like Neil's focus shifted away from Pegi and more towards Amber and the future. 

    But the Horse wins this one.

    The Horse wins on TOAST.  More specifically, Ralph wins on TOAST. His drumming is literally tribal on "Goin' Home".

    Thanks LRR as always for sharing thoughts here on TW.  Most appreciated as we understand that your LRR posts are the "wheat of rust".

     
    "TOAST":  
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    Tuesday, July 12, 2022

    First Impressions: Toast by Neil Young with Crazy Horse | The Old Grey Cat

     
    "TOAST":  
    Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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    With the arrival of "TOAST" -- Neil Young's unreleased 2001 album w/ Crazy Horse -- rusties around the world breathed a heavy sigh of both relief and release.

    Here are First Impressions: Toast by Neil Young with Crazy Horse | The Old Grey Cat:

    What many of us, or maybe just me, didn’t know at the time: The heart of the album began beating in November 2000 at the funky Toast studio in San Francisco’s Mission District, where Neil was joined by Crazy Horse (Sampedro, Billy Talbot and Ralph Molina). 

    Over the next few months, they laid down seven songs, with the final session coming on February 9th, 2001. In a post to the NYA Times-Contrarian, Neil wrote that the songs “were so sad at the time that I couldn’t put it out. I just skipped it and went on to do another album in its place.” (The reason for said sadness, again to quote Neil from that same post: “The music of Toast is about a relationship. There is a time in many relationships that go bad, a time long before the break up, where it dawns on one of the people, maybe both, that it’s over. This was that time.”) 

    The big surprise of Toast, according to some reviewers and—in that same Times-Contrarian post—Neil himself, is the dexterity of Crazy Horse. 

    Neil and the Horse are known, after all, for what I sometimes call “brutal grace,” aka thud-thick chords and extended jams that just about stop time. But any fan worth his or her salt can point to examples, such as much of Sleeps With Angels, where they demonstrate a deft touch. Which is to say, “Quit” and “How Ya Doin’?” sound much the same here as they do on AYP, where they were renamed “Quit (Don’t Say You Love Me)” and “Mr. Disappointment.” “Boom, Boom, Boom,” on the other hand, is a tad looser (and longer) than its AYP counterpart, “She’s a Healer,” while Neil’s quavering vocal sounds almost as if he’s trying to convince himself that he means what he’s singing. Tom Bray’s trumpet adds a welcome umlaut to both versions.

    Thanks for the 1st impressions OGC!  Much appreciated insight into this critical missing link in the Neil Young  discography.  And yes we do recall your passionate defense of AYP? which you referred to as the s "The Stax Sessions" w/ Booker T. & The MGs.

    Full review @ First Impressions: Toast by Neil Young with Crazy Horse | The Old Grey Cat.

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    Sunday, July 10, 2022

    REVIEW: "TOAST" - Unreleased 2001 Album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse | Davy's Cinema Flicks & Music Picks

    "TOAST":  
    Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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    Here is an in-depth video review of Neil Young's recent release  "TOAST" -- the  unreleased 2001 album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse -- by Davy's Cinema Flicks & Music Picks.  
     

     

     

  • Comment of the Moment: Neil Young's Unreleased 2001 Album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse

  • "TOAST" Finally Pops: Unreleased 2001 album by Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse

  •  Comment of the Moment: PREMEIRE: "Timberline" from Neil Young's unreleased 2001 album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse

     
     
     

    Also, see Comment of the Moment on "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album by Tony "Hambone" Hammond in the UK.  (See  "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album.)

    More on interview with Frank “Poncho” Sampedro, Neil Young, Crazy Horse Guitarist [discusses TOAST] | The Aquarium Drunkard. 

    Also, see ‘Are You Passionate?’ Turns 10 Years Old and Neil Young's Album of the Week: 'Are You Passionate?' + Defending AYP?


    For regular visitors here @ TW, you may recall earlier this year us having Davy from Scotland on  Thrasher's Wheat Radio 2.0 episode discussing the connections between albums Deja Vu and Living With War amidst the backdrop of ongoing global unrest. ( Check it out. )

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    Comment of the Moment: Neil Young's Unreleased 2001 Album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse

    "TOAST" (Clone to Are You Passionate? [???]:  
    Neil Young Unreleased 2001 Album w/ Crazy Horse 
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    Yesterday, "Toast" -- Neil Young's unreleased 2001 album with Crazy Horse album premiered on Neil Young's archive website.

    Here is an epic Comment of the Moment from the irrepressible  Flyingscotzman (aka Scotsman) on  PREMEIRE: "Timberline" from Neil Young's unreleased 2001 album "Toast" w/ Crazy Horse:

    Greetings to all at Thrasher's. I've been totally "away" from music for the last few months, busy with other projects, and so have missed out on a lot of the discussion.

    I still haven't listened to the last 3 "bootleg series" releases, and still have a couple of timeline concerts to catch up on. Anything else I've missed out on?

    I have, however, already listened to Toast. I see a lot of perceptive comments already, from Ian and others.

    I know from correspondence elsewhere that some have missed my comments here, the last few months, and others have been glad to see me go.

    So I'll take that as glass-half-full, and will post my first impressions on Toast very shortly!

    (Yes, the "first impressions" are almost as long as Driftin' Back, and will surely upset people who don't like it when I have a viewpoint. If so: GOOD.)

    I hope you are all well, and wishing you a happy listening session to the "new" Crazy Horse album.

    A heartfelt suggestion:

    Do not write Toast off as a 6/10 Are You Passionate clone.

    Because it turns out this long-awaited record—one where anticipation could only be flecked with uncertainty—is exciting. More exciting than anything I've heard in... ages.

    It has moments, many moments, that are so sublime it's hard to believe they've been locked up for the last 20 years.

    A few months ago I "boldly" (cough) proclaimed this record would, at very least, be interesting.

    Well, it's certainly that. It's *fascinating*. And electrifying, too.

    Because, within the nuts and bolts of this album, there's an "exposed wire". It sometimes causes the songs to misfire. (Listen to some of the not-quite-there guitar soloing and the occasional throwaway lyrics).

    But it also causes exciting *sparks*, with thrilling frequency.

    And it makes this album feel vividly, vividly *alive*.

    There's another major difference, too, between this music and Are You Passionate:

    Toast is a Neil Young album. With all the haunting idiosyncrasies you'd expect from a Neil Young album.

    Whereas Are You Passionate is a Neil Young album *in disguise*.

    I fear the slightly comical word-image of the previous sentence may dim the impact of what I think is a valid point.

    And it's a point that needs some nuance. So I may very well complicate the point by trying to clarify it.

    An artist has to protect his spirit. And I think that's what Neil does on Are You Passionate. He makes a genre record... and starts to bring his family back together.

    With that in mind, consider this:

    EVEN THE *ALBUM COVER* OF "ARE YOU PASSIONATE" IS AN EXAMPLE OF MISDIRECTION.

    It wants us to *believe* this album is a story, or about *other* people (or just another 80s-style concept-experiment with genre.)

    Neil wants us to think he's acting. Even though the real act is that he's *not* acting.

    In that way, Are You Passionate sort of feels like a deliberate "self-forgery". Toast doesn't. But it's not a case of "Toast is good, AYP is bad".

    (I did warn you there was some nuance).

    AYP isn't the end of a relationship. It's Neil actively battling to keep it together. And the theatrical mimicking of the soul sound-signature gives him the shade he needs to "stand in the light of love". (A paradox!)

    All that is part of what it means to be a Professional Creative, too. For reasons we'll get on to shortly.

    So to us, Toast is "just" music.

    And to us, Shakey: Neil Young's Biography is "just" a fascinating book written by a charismatic writer.

    But to Neil, they're his life.

    Art is *about* life, but when it becomes *indistinguishable* from life itself, it becomes dangerous.

    Little things are blown out of proportion — seeming far bigger (and more dangerous) due to their closeness to heart.

    And that's when Kurt Cobain kills himself, or Elvis Presley *the person* becomes submerged by his career.

    Other people get hurt in the fallout, too. Because when people are fearful, they act in inconsiderate ways. Many of us are guilty of that, on occasion: it's part of what it means to be human... unfortunately.

    So, do I prefer Toast to Are You Passionate? Early impression is a very emphatic "yes".

    But I think I understand (and can enthuse about) why Neil chose to make AYP, instead. And actually, I'm glad he did — because the concerts from Germany 2002 (with Poncho and the MGs) are superb.

    More musings:

    On Toast, Neil's singing is among the most intimate you'll ever ever hear, and the production is fantastic.

    The fragility of his voice (a weakness on the AYP mix of Goin' Home) is *transformed* into a strength by bringing it up-front, compressing it, warming it up with some haunting echo. It feels like a direct link to Neil's soul.

    (And, again, you can see why that might cause the artist to blink; to think twice).

    The sound-mix of Goin' Home is a million times better than on Are You Passionate. And the overdubs (lots of gorgeous, colourful overdubs on this album) help propel the song into a higher gear.

    The result? The best Neil Young song of the last 20+ years finally has a worthy representation on record.

    There's one more thing I wanted to say, because I have a hunch there is somebody out there who needs to hear it:

    In a world where the soulless forces of social media try to compel us to comply... to fit in... to be fearful of even the *suggestion* of social rejection... to obsess about "likes"... to act like cloned automatons (for God's sake)....

    It's becoming increasingly rare to hear music like this.

    Music with soul that actively rewards the listener for seeking out the kind of fragile nuance that the system actively seeks to kill.

    My suggestion: treasure it when it arrives.

    And treasure the people who make this sort of stuff, too — because there aren't many of them.

    The artist, too, has a responsibility. To keep at it. To respect herself *and* her family *and* her audience. And to do the music justice.

    (Forgive me if I'm sacrificing clarity by being a bit vague, in the last few paragraphs. But I don't think I'm talking total gibberish.)

    On that note! Thanks for taking time to read my rant.

    And congratulations to Mr Young on releasing a powerful (but still seemingly-fragile and *sensitive*) piece of music into a dangerous world.

    I promise you, it will survive.

    Scotsman.

    So glad to have you drop a thought or 2 here Scotsman.  Always our pleasure to feature as a CotM.  The Neil bounty still yields huge bounties after all these decades is approaching miracality for a certain generation.

    When you come back for a visit here @ TW, you don't just casually drop by but drop us something to chew on, hold and savor.  We are honored and humbled by you and many others who generously share so much.  So we give back to the community and the circle goes round  and round.



     

    Also, see Comment of the Moment on "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album by Tony "Hambone" Hammond in the UK.  (See  "Toast" - A Roadstory: Neil Young Shares Thoughts on Unreleased 2001 Album.)

    More on interview with Frank “Poncho” Sampedro, Neil Young, Crazy Horse Guitarist [discusses TOAST] | The Aquarium Drunkard. 

    Also, see ‘Are You Passionate?’ Turns 10 Years Old and Neil Young's Album of the Week: 'Are You Passionate?' + Defending AYP?


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