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ARCHIVES VOL. II: 1972-1976 Limited Edition Deluxe Box Set Out November 20 | NYA

ARCHIVES VOL. II: 1972-1976 | NYA


In a major announcement on Neil Young Archives, ARCHIVES VOL. II: 1972-1976 - Limited Edition Deluxe Box Set will be released on November 20.  (Thanks RoadDawg!)

The full Archives Volume II: 1972-1976 track listing has been posted detailing both previously unreleased song and new unreleased song versions.

There will be 10 discs included in the package:

 Disc 1 (1972-1973)
Everybody’s Alone

Disc 2 (1973)

Disc 3 (1973)
Tonight’s the Night

Disc 4 (1973)
Roxy: Tonight’s the Night Live

Disc 5 (1974)
Walk On

Disc 6 (1974)
The Old Homestead

Disc 7 (1974)

Disc 8 (1975)

Disc 9 (1976)
Look Out for My Love

Disc 10 (1976)
Odeon Budokan

 Full details on NYA @ ARCHIVES VOL. II: 1972-1976 | NYA.

Developing ...

Looking back in 2009 to NYA#1 ... 


1st night with Neil Young Archives by John R., New York

Zak Claxton and Neil Young Archives Vol. 1 Review

Stick around while the clown who is sick does the trick of disaster ...


Countdown to Hell freezing Over NYA Release

And I've been waiting for you.
For such a long time now.

- Today's The Day: The Neil Young Archives Finally Arrives

- OFFICIAL Website: The NYA Post Informer

Neil Young Archives Cover Art
Zoom & Pan Art

- Neil Young Archives Tutorial and Archives Guy Q&A ...

- Archives Open Thread: Sunday, 5/31/09

Box set Design by Gary Burden

- Archives Open Thread: Saturday, 5/30/09

- Thanks Again Archives Guy!

- Archives Guy Q&A Session: Wednesday, 5/27

Sneak Peek

- NYA Question of the Moment: Riverboat Recordings

- Archives Guy Q&A Session: Tuesday, 5/26

- Unique NYA Moments

- Archives Guy Q&A Continues This Week

- Comment of the Moment: Archives Preview


UPDATE: August 10, 2009: The Making of The Neil Young Archives

UPDATE: July 27, 2009: The Thrasher's Wheat review of The Neil Young Archives Vol 1 (1963-1972)

The Ark of the Covenant


Here are the 4 Neil Young Archives discussion topics:

LRR Opens the Neil Young Archives from ra7968 on Vimeo.

A Guide To The Neil Young Archives (Great work Lone Red Rider!)
  • Archives Commentary Open Thread
  • Archives Technical Questions Open Thread
  • Archives Easter Eggs, Virtual Bongs, and Hidden Tracks
  • Archives Ordering Questions Open Thread

    NYA Riverboat Disc

  • Archives Open Thread Friday, 6/12/09

    NYA Disc #1 Back Cover

  • Archives Open Thread Thursday, 6/11/09

    Topango Canyon #1, Disc #2: 1968-1969

  • joel-bernstein-neil-young-1972-2-sm.jpg
    Neil Young - circa 1972
    Boxset Photo by Joel Bernstein

  • Archives Open Thread Tuesday, 6/9/09


  • Archives Open Thread Monday, 6/8/09


  • Archives Open Thread Sunday, 6/7/09
  • - Neil Young Archives: "Defy expectation and transcend limitation" - TONEAudio MAGAZINE (5/2009)

    - Blu-Ray System Recommendations (5/2009)

    - Archives Guy Online *NOW* for Q&A Session (5/2009)

    - Archives Guy Stops By For Some Q&A (5/2009)


    - Demo of North Country Archives Disc #8 (5/2009)

    The Holy Grail

    - Neil Young News: So What's Really on Archives Vol. #1? (5/2009)

    - Counting Down the Days for the Neil Young Archives (5/2009)

    Neil Young Archives Preview Blu-Ray Disc

    - A NYA Blu-Ray Preview (5/2009)

    - Archives Guy Has Some Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) (3/2009)

    See? The Archives really exist!

    - An Archives Analysis: It's Such A Fine Line (3/2009)

    - Fans React to Neil Young Archives Track Listing: Are We A Nation Of Whiners? (3/2009)


    - Finally!!! The Neil Young Archives Track Listing - Release Date Now June 2, 2009 (3/2009)


    - Uncut Magazine's Archives Preview (Feb 09)


    - Official Reprise Neil Young's Archives Website Up

    - Neil Young Archives Update from Archives Guy on official NYA website status (Jan 09)


    - Archives Release Date Poll Analysis (Jan 09)

    - Archives Q&A Session and Continued (Dec 08)

    - Archives Update from Archives Guy (Dec 08)

    - The Archives: Burned with Both Feet on the Ground (Dec 08)


    - Is Blu-Ray Dead Already? Not So Fast Yet (Oct 08)

    - Seriously, Pre-Order on Amazon Archives Volume 1 (Oct 08)


    - The excruciatingly delayed 'Archives' project is 'supposed to be' released on November 3, 2008 (Aug 2008)


    - Archives To Be Available On CD, DVD (July 08)

    - The Archives Release Delayed Until 2008 and More On ‘Archives’ Delay (June 08)

    - Archives Preview Video and Partial Track Listing (May 08)

    - The Archives Turns Fans Blu (May 08)

    - Reaction to The Archives: Into the Blu and Out of the Black (May 08)


    - Webcast of Archives Announcement at Sun JavaOne Conference Keynote with Neil Young (May 08)


    - Report on JavaOne Conference (May 08)

    - The Archives Will Come Out This Year ... Except...(Jan 2008)

    Coming in 2007!
    (according to official reprise site still!)

    - The Archives Vol.01 1963-1972: Let The Speculation Continue (Mar 07)

    The Archives: Easter Eggs, Virtual Bongs, & BlueRay DVDs (Feb 06)

    The Shroud of Archives:
    Tracklisting of NYA

    Also, we've been doing some Blu-ray research and found this Amazon page helpful in comparing various players' specifications.

    The Neil Young Archives Vol. 1 Trailer by Neil Young

    And -- of course -- many Neil Young fans just said The Archives Be Damned long ago. So let The Archives Be Praised ... hopefully in our lifetimes.

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    At 9/20/2020 12:53:00 PM, Blogger Nimrod said...

    Oh my God oh my God oh my god

    At 9/20/2020 01:20:00 PM, Blogger Phil said...

    Roughly 11 unreleased songs, 50 unreleased versions and 3 of 10 discs already released (Tuscaloosa, Roxy, Homegrown)...

    At 9/20/2020 02:49:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

    Thanks Phil. Yes, lots of intriguing titles like:

    Letter From ‘Nam
    Goodbye Christmas on the Shore
    LA Girls and Ocean Boys
    Frozen Man

    can't wait for Nov 20! 2 months. A November to remember, for sure.

    At 9/20/2020 03:44:00 PM, Blogger CAH said...

    Well a definite pre-order to say the least, direct from NYA with the ineviable customs charges to the UK if needs be..

    In terms of the box pictured on NYA it looks like the size of the vol 1 DVD version rather than the CD one though for some reason ?

    At 9/20/2020 04:46:00 PM, Blogger John said...

    I remember the day the BluRay set arrived and the postman wanted €80 (which I didn’t have) so he took it back to the depot until I coughed up the bucks. Too bad there can’t be a European distributor too.

    At 9/20/2020 04:47:00 PM, Blogger John said...

    This is great news, 2020’s silver lining!

    At 9/20/2020 05:07:00 PM, Blogger Shakeydave said...

    pre-rder begins Oct. 16 on NYA - there are two full moons in October - October 1 is the "Harvest Moon" and October 31 is the "Blue Moon" - so i guess the whole month is a full moon month! works for me! I have the Archives Vol. I box here underneath my digital piano, i love the pic of Archivews box Vol. II, looks like the same kinda design with different pics! way to go Neil! :)

    At 9/20/2020 05:32:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

    Most likely will include the book and poster the same as Vol 1. Unless Neil decided to go with Blu-ray anyway. Never know with him.

    At 9/20/2020 06:11:00 PM, Blogger Carly said...

    this is massive - 11 years on and it looks like we'll finally get vol 2!! NYA has really come through with the goods this year (Way Down in the Rust Bucket and Homegrown in particular) - has made the lockdown here in Melbourne more bearable for sure.

    NY&CH - Live at the Fillmore East was released in 2006 - I remember at the time thinking I'd got the holy grail - it was only the beginning...........

    At 9/20/2020 06:48:00 PM, Blogger The Metamorphic Rocker said...

    Thanks, Neil! And thanks for The Times, which I'm listening to as I type. "Alabama" is absolutely haunting in acoustic, unadorned form. Chills. And, monumentally, Neil covers Bob, which has only happened a very few times. This delicate take on Bob's "The Times" is almost tearful--remembering my dad, the uber Dylan fan. How many Dylan covers has Neil committed to record? "Girl from the North Country" for A Letter Home, live versions of "Blowin' in the Wind" and "All Along the Watchtower"... am I missing any? I know he did Dylan's 30th anniversary gig, taking a verse of"My Back Pages" and maybe others, if memory serves.

    On to Archives II: has Chrome Dreams I been subsumed into the other previously unreleased discs, or does that have to wait until Archives III picks up with '77?

    Just curious. I'm happy this is coming along, although it seems a pity about the three previously released discs. Otoh, we'd have had to wait several years longer for Tuscaloosa, Roxy, etc. if Neil hadn't let them out. On the whole, I think the Performance Series releases are worthy of being available individually. The issue is not knowing ahead of time and thus not being able to make informed choices about what to buy.

    For future releases, perhaps I'll try to buy individual issues on vinyl and then get the CD box set--if the duplication keeps happening, which NY has suggested will change after Vol 2.


    At 9/20/2020 07:36:00 PM, Blogger Lone Red Rider said...

    It's been interesting to see the Archives Box Set concept slightly shift as Neil has seemingly abandoned the strictly chronological ordering of the songs. For those who may not have noticed, the chronology was maniacally strict in the first volume. Secondly, the inclusion of a previously released studio album (Homegrown) is a change. But, overall, there is little that is missing. My 3 pieces of criticism are that disks 1,2 could have had a bit more coverage; Disks 6,7 could have been balanced out a bit better and might have benefitted from stricter chronology, Disks 8,9 might have had a bit more coverage of the Crazy Horse Costal Bar Era. Disk10 could have been a more complete Odeon-Budokan just for the modern CD ERA. But don't get me wrong. I am thrilled about this set!!! Especially knowing that there is a mechanism for Neil to share outtakes which didn't make the CDs.

    At 9/20/2020 07:56:00 PM, Blogger Joe said...

    The format is the big question I’ve got. When you purchased the original NYA, yes, there were Blu-ray Discs. But you also got a card to download MP3’s of the tracks. The majority of the listening that I give NVA V1 is from these MP3’s.

    Will purchasers of NYA V2 get any ability to download the tracks in high-res? Or is that another purchase?

    At 9/20/2020 08:03:00 PM, Blogger wardo said...

    Not a comment of the month but... Let's do this.

    At 9/21/2020 01:29:00 AM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    Can the individual CDs be bought seperately? I have Tuscaloosa and Roxy, and I prefer not to repurchase them. I also have some of the unreleased songs on "imported" cds, which make some of the other CDs expendable, even if the official release sound quality is much better. Right now I am an economic victim of COVID19, so buying the entire Archives II is out of the question.


    At 9/21/2020 03:00:00 AM, Blogger Andy Walters said...

    Some duplication as always with Neil. Let's hope someone has reconfigured the packaging which on the vol 1 blu-ray was atrocious.

    At 9/21/2020 03:48:00 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

    NY originally said i understand Archives Vol #2 would not be produced in a physical format. As this has now changed, it surely has to be bluray format, for high end audio quality, which was always his recomended choice for volume 1. The blubray format of Archives #1 was sublime, best i’ve ever heard, so it makes sense to continue to use the same format on #2.

    At 9/21/2020 07:02:00 AM, Blogger Phil said...

    I have a lot of questions about the tracklist but one is the presence of Last Trip To Tulsa on disc 1 (1972-1973). This song is from 1968 and the version here is not an unreleased one...
    Any explanation ???

    At 9/21/2020 07:05:00 AM, Blogger Phil said...

    Another question: on disc 1, "Monday morning" appears as a unreleased version but I don't know any NY song called like this... Is it an early version of Last Dance ?

    At 9/21/2020 07:26:00 AM, Blogger Derek Joists said...

    There was a version of Last Trip To Tulsa as the b-side of the Time Fades Away single, it's probably that one. It's been one of the handful of missing tracks on the Archives site so it'd be good to have it.

    At 9/21/2020 09:05:00 AM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    Derek is correct. The Last Trip to Tulsa is listed here is likely from TFA tour. It is an electric version. I believe that its shorter than the original version on NY. Yay Derek!

    At 9/21/2020 09:45:00 AM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

    Regarding the duplicate titles: Neil addressed the issue in the NYA Letters section a while back, and said it was too late for Volume Two, but perhaps he would consider eliminating the previously released titles from Volume Three. This is my only complaint about the Archives releases so far, but there is hope that this will not be repeated in future releases.

    Also from the Letters, Neil seemed to suggest that Archives Volume Two world only be released on CD, and not Blu Ray That being said, knowing Neil..... we’ll just have to wait and see. I thought the Blu Rays for Volume One sounded spectacular. And it was so fun searching the file cabinet for hidden goodies.

    November can’t get here soon enough.

    Peace 🙏

    At 9/21/2020 10:17:00 AM, Blogger Wildgift said...

    Really interested in format here. Neil has touted 192/24 as the best way to hear the music. A CD release will not cut it. I would imagine/hope that it would be available in hi res from the NYA store, or better yet, the cd set includes hi res downloads (a fantasy). Best would be Blu-ray but who knows. That seems off the table.

    At 9/21/2020 10:39:00 AM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    Dan Swan--Thanks so much! I imagine the answer will be clearer in month.

    To respond to another comment about the Rolling Zuma tour of northern california bars in 1975. I've heard a tape of it (audience, I believe) and the sound is really crappy. Knowing Neil, he probably taped it (since he taped everything), so that may sound decent.. The second issue is that the gig I've heard is ~ 1/3 CH songs, which are terrible. One song -- I kid you not -- has the chorus of "She's hot" repeated 10 times (ok that's an exaggeration). The "She's hot" part isn't.

    At 9/21/2020 11:35:00 AM, Blogger Rabbi Randy said...

    Hi all. This is such exciting news! Does anyone think that some of the songs on Disc 6 will be from
    the CSNY Hawaii sessions and that some on Disc 9 will be the Long May You Run songs where Neil and Stills scrubbed out Crosby/Nash vocals?

    At 9/21/2020 11:45:00 AM, Blogger Happy Andy said...

    Always there with a positive comment Thumper

    At 9/21/2020 11:47:00 AM, Blogger Happy Andy said...

    Is it Christmas or Christians on the Shore?

    At 9/21/2020 11:51:00 AM, Blogger Phil said...

    @Derek: thanks for the explanation about Last Trip To Tulsa. I had forgotten this version...

    At 9/21/2020 12:16:00 PM, Blogger Ruben said...

    Question re: duplication on NYA website. How much of the content on NYA#1 is also on his website (paid subscribers), and would we expect that with NYA#2? If I can stream directly at blu-ray quality, is there any other benefit of the physical copies other than the obvious awesomeness?

    At 9/21/2020 12:53:00 PM, Blogger DREman said...

    Classic Horse song:

    At 9/21/2020 02:19:00 PM, Blogger sab1024 said...

    I am disappointed this is not in blu-ray format. Neil is so passionate about hi-res so I had assumed it would be so to capture the sound in hi-res. Maybe a special "Limited Blu-ray Edition" .

    At 9/21/2020 02:34:00 PM, Blogger Harm said...

    Fooled again. No Blu-Ray and including Roxy, Tuscaloosa and Homegrown a second time. The two Performance Series I could have known, but a Special Release series? Also a bit disappointed Odeon Budokan is only one disc.

    The 7 new discs look pretty good though. Bit of a different concept than volume 1. Was expecting to include material until 82, but Neil had been too productive in the mid 70's.

    Too bad it's an NYA exclusive (for the time being). Will buy regardless though and probably the double discs.

    At 9/21/2020 03:48:00 PM, Blogger Gus said...

    I too am chagrined by the inclusion of the two previously released live albums, and Homegrown (which I just bought about a month ago). But damn, disc 6 looks amazing (especially if yer a Love / Art aficionado)! And 8,9, and 10 as well.

    Wish that they could tell us how much this beauty is going to set us back. I've been unemployed since March!! But I'll need to own it...

    At 9/21/2020 03:50:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

    From michael1984

    Will Archives II be released on Blu-Ray? I haven't seen any video content mentioned, doesn't NY want his fans t have the best in quality ad how they like it? I have been a fan as long as I can remember (70s) and I want it on Blu-Ray with the bonus video which was included on Archives I (12 or so years ago....). How about it? Do you have any info on a physical releasee like Vol. I?



    At 9/21/2020 05:31:00 PM, Blogger Roberto said...

    Mine is an already touched topic , I know.
    Why duplicate, even with incomplete shows?

    I love Neil and I do since 1975, I was 15 then. I know that he follows dinamics different from mine (lukily for all of us) but we do not need duplicates. We (the people of NYA) already own and know this Music, why selling it twice?

    With huuge and wide love and a bit of disappointment

    Roberto Roma Italia

    At 9/21/2020 06:09:00 PM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    I agree with Roberto. I love NY, think his willingness to sacrifice almost everything for his muse keeps his music meaningful. I agree with Neil's view that his work is like museum. If you don't like a particular painting (LP), move on to the next one. he doesn't give a shit whether people like it or not. (He once said "Everybody's Rockin" is one of his best LPs. Maybe was just messing with us.) His authenticity, too, is a big part of his appeal.

    All 3 of the repeats were released very recently. Tuscaloosa, Homegrown 4 months ago, Roxy a year + ago.

    pre releasing these LPs but not telling people they will be part of the box without seems that the "greedy hand" is no joke.

    The final consideration is the economy during the pandemic. May family's been hit by it, but much less damaging than other families. Still, a $180 box set with more than 30% redundancy while adding only ONE new performance seems miserly at best, and releasing the archives for money at worst.

    I wonder if Elliott Roberts were still around whether he would he suggest to Neil to make the box set without the 3 duplicate LPs. .Would he tell Neil that he's gouging people? Would he recommend dropping the 3 repeats from the set? After all, these 3 only have 1 new performance, and no unreleased songs.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it's claimed that this version has much better sound, like you're really in the room. He said the blue ray versions had much better sound. The sound on the next releases will be better still. I can't afford upgrades for sound improvements that may be unintelligible to me.

    As for me, this won't affect how often I listen his music canon. His work will still strike emotional parts in me that most other music does not. I will, however, feel great disappointment in Neil.

    PS I have many of the unreleased songs on bootlegs with worse sound, so I'll have to live with that.

    At 9/21/2020 08:41:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

    No Blu-Ray format from Mr. "Quality wether you like it or not"???? Jeez, for the first time, I feel NY's fucking me over. I have all of the Archives CD's I was wrong to assume that he'd release Hi- Res Blu-Ray versions for the box....Also, unlike Vol I: Where's the footage? I guess if you're just doing a CD/LP box set you can't include any video....I am disgused so far as he seems to have lost all of what was important for his last Archives Release.


    At 9/21/2020 09:02:00 PM, Blogger The Metamorphic Rocker said...

    @Unknown... I imagine any video footage and supplemental materials will be available to subscribers on the website. The point of taking the Archives online was to house all of this material in a more economical, accessible way. Likewise, hi-res audio is through the Archives site or Amazon streaming, though whether one can reap the benefit of that quality depends, at least partly, on one's playback equipment. And I'm assuming all of the material on Vol 2 will pop up on the NYA site at some point, like everything else Neil has released including Vol 1.

    I think one of the problems was the BD sets were prohibitively expensive, both to manufacture and to purchase. At those prices, they weren't going to sell enough to recoup expenses, and the BD format is interesting but not terribly practical for the consumer, imho.

    Bottom line: BD has supposedly been off the table for while, and the whole point of online Archives was to supersede that format. Regarding all the other questions coming up here, I can only suggest folks "ask the archivist" over on the NYA website, as I doubt anyone other than Neil or his people have answers yet.

    At 9/22/2020 12:46:00 AM, Blogger Lone Red Rider said...

    It wouldn't be Neil if we had it all figured out. At least the box looks the same as my Vol1 blu-ray set. That lonely box now has an 11.5 year old younger sibling. That's how I see it. :-)

    At 9/22/2020 02:07:00 AM, Blogger Harm said...

    NYA online is no substitution for a physical release. I paid the equivalent of 300 dollars for the volume 1 Blu-Ray set, but I can imagine people paying much more for the online subscription for the next 10 years. But what if Neil or Reprise decide to pull the plug? We'll have nothing to show for it and a lot of money down the drain. Now I have Spotify for convenience, when I'm on the road or at work or to check stuff out before buying, but it doesn't replace my physical collection.

    At 9/22/2020 02:29:00 AM, Blogger Bubba Hotep said...

    I'm excited. My favorite era. But two versions of Midnight on the Bay and no Sad Movies?

    One more quibble, which applies to Dreamin Man and the Roxy (and A Treasure somewhat): I prefer complete shows from a tour that have the new songs as well as how the old songs are updated. If Odeon/Budokan can have ATGR and Old Man, I'd love a November 1973 show with Helpless, Flying on the Ground, Human Highway, Don't Be Denied...

    At 9/22/2020 02:31:00 AM, Blogger JVJ said...

    Most posters here, myself no exception, consume practically anything NY puts out so of course Id'a also be happy to have more unreleased music than three discs of duplicates. Based on Neil's comments in the letters section, it seems like he underestimates how great the overlap is between people who bought those three LP's and people who will buy this box set. But I'm sure he has enough visibility into his sales to know, by figures, alone, that's not the case.

    I think it comes down to the Archives standing on their own, with a slightly different intent that the individual releases. Whether it's purely for archival reasons, or for artistic reasons, Neil thinks they belong here and that's enough for me... after over half a century being one of the most interesting, consistently engaging, he's earned that trust. At least, from me... of course he's not above criticism... in fact, sometimes I get more reading negative or dissatisfied takes on his releases - I might not agree with them, but they do make me engage with the work in a way I wouldn't on my own.

    If this is released on DVD or Blu-Ray, I'll already been experiencing and interacting with these in a different way than I did with the LP's.

    If anything, my only recreational disappointment is that I wish more of this collection had/will be released on vinyl. It's my favorite way to listen to NY (I know, I know... a rare and controversial stance).

    At 9/22/2020 03:10:00 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

    He was planning to release Odeon Budokan on vinyl wasn't he?

    At 9/22/2020 06:46:00 AM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

    @JVJ : I’m in total agreement with your comment above. I too prefer vinyl over any other format, and surprisingly, vinyl has outsold CD’s for the first time since the 80’s this year. I realize it’s not as successful as streaming, but it is certainly my preference for musical listening pleasure. Granted, it’s a niche market, expensive, and certainly not as portable or convenient as CD’s or streaming, but for me there is a time and a place for music to be more than just wallpaper. And my personal choice in those moments is vinyl.

    I appreciate Neil’s vision for his Archive releases and understand his approach from a artistic perspective. Yet the duplication of previously released material seems fairly disrespectful to the fans. Hopefully he will respond to the feedback and resolve this issue for Volume Three.

    Peace 🙏

    At 9/22/2020 10:23:00 AM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

    I think maybe, possibly, because I can't be a "fan" like I used to be, I just look at this effort and productivity over four years and experience something close to amazement. The sheer volume and then the absurdly high quality of the songs makes me think that many choices could be mistakes or whatever in the actual production of the release (the actual product). Mainly I am just amazed at what this person has done and continues to do. I do appreciate and understand the critical comments, but looking at the monolithic achievement makes me turn away from gripes about boxing, blue ray or whatever.

    At 9/22/2020 10:31:00 AM, Blogger wardo said...

    Having spent a couple days with the tracklisting now (and listening to Tuscaloosa, TFA, TTN, Roxy, OTB, CSNY1974, Homegrown, Zuma, Hitchhiker, Judy, and repeat) I'm still very excited about this set. Yes, we're buying three albums again, but that precedent was set with the first box.

    I barely had the cash to afford the CD version of Volume 1, but I still devoured it. In time I was able to procure a used copy of the book, as well as JTTP. Not having sprung for the Blu-ray I was pleased to find all the extras on the site (well worth $20 a year, if not more should the tiers change). At the time, Blu-ray was the apex of technology, and yeah, he's gone beyond that. I remember one of his sticking points with Geffen in 1988 was that they wouldn't let him put out Decade II as a three-record set. Things change.

    A track listing give even more hope that this damn thing will finally happen, and the fact that it's limited to the fertile "ditch" period is very exciting for me. I've only had a CD player in my car for five years, so I'm still okay with that format.

    Just trying to find the positives here. There will always be nits to pick.

    At 9/22/2020 10:33:00 AM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    Dear TW readers.

    This is a cleaned up, edited version of my rant yesterday that AII has Roxy, Tuscaloosa, and Homegrown albums in it with only 1 add unreleased performance.

    There’s real excitement for the Archives II release. However, I ‘m disappointed that it includes 3 recently released LPs: Roxy, Tuscaloosa, and Homegrown, which were issued beginning in July 2019. Like many Neil Young fans, I bought them. The archives versions have only 1 new performance among them, and no unreleased songs.

    Fans who bought the 3 albums have a dilemma: buy the expensive box set with three records they already own, or don’t purchase it, and miss all the unreleased songs and performances. Some would say that if the 3 repeats bother you, don’t buy the box set. That’s cold comfort for a Neil Young completest like me (I even own “Eldorado” at $25!).

    This flawed box set won't affect my listening to Neil Young’s amazing canon. Besides, I have many Archives II unreleased songs on “imported” discs of varying quality.

    The business side included the three repeats in Archives II. But the fans who purchased Roxy, Tuscaloosa, and Homegrown were taken. Was the “Greedy Hand” name a joke or a warning?

    I would like to submit this to the NYA Times-Contrarian --maybe it will have an impact? I could not identify the submission link for LTEs. Can anyone send me a link to it? Thanks!

    At 9/22/2020 11:24:00 AM, Blogger DREman said...

    Many of you are talking about an artist having greedy hand selling you 3 disks out of 10 that you already own like you are being ripped off. How about you think about the archives package as an era and as one set and it makes sense that it is all in the same box, in my opinion.

    I guarantee you that Neil is not getting rich off of these box packages, and if anything he is breaking even on the production and delivery of them.

    Some of you are still miffed about the investments that you made in Pono or Blueray, and I get that, but if you don't want to "waste" your current money on music you already own, then you can just sit on NYA and listen song by song, or you can stream on Amazon or Pandora Music, or you can buy individual tunes from iTunes.

    You don't have to buy anything, but I doubt you will ever hear this music on the radio or MTV, so you have to pay to play. Cough up the bucks and live in the joy of what has been delivered to us over the past few years, including the free concerts on NYA which don't require an NYA membership.

    At 9/22/2020 12:21:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

    Thanks everyone for all of the comments here on NYA#2.

    Neil fans are passionate -- to say the least. We're rather familiar w/ hard core Bob & Bruce fans.

    Bruce fans want to be on the rail and/or stage w/ Bruce.

    Bob fans want to have everything released & unreleased as well as understand & analyze every lyric.

    Neil fans want all of the above + more.

    more on NYA#2 & Comment of the Moment.

    Thanks JVM & honorable mentions to Wardo, Dreman & others here.

    @ NYBD11-12 - write LTE to neil @

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    At 9/22/2020 05:04:00 PM, Blogger The Metamorphic Rocker said...

    @Harm, Just to clarify: I'm not arguing whether NYA online is a perfect substitute for blu-ray--just pointing out that, as far as I recall, thi was the original pitch when the website came out: Neil saw the website as a more economical way to provide essentially the same content. If I'm misremembering, by all means, let someone who knows better correct me.

    At 9/22/2020 05:34:00 PM, Blogger NYBD11-12 said...

    Thanks Thrasher! BTW Thraser is in my Top 10!

    At 9/23/2020 04:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Well said @DREman. These archives are meant to be completist themselves by representing the whole period. Neil wan not even planning to release a physical format of Vol II, so we should be thankful for what we have. He can't be making a tonne of money from all of this (particularly if only available in NYA) and it seems slightly churlish to be complaining when we finally have Vol II confirmed after all these years. This is a positive thing! If you don't want the extra discs, listen to Vol II on NYA as part of your annual subscription at no extra cost. Isn't that wonderful in of itself? It is meant to be all about the music after all.

    At 9/23/2020 08:28:00 AM, Blogger Thos said...

    Absolutely agree Grey, it’s not ideal when people are short of cash just now, but if we want physical product what is the alternative? Wait ten years until international economies are (maybe) in a better state?

    Heaven knows we’ve all bought the same albums twice or more from many artists (especially Elton John, velvet underground, the Beatles, Bob Dylan etc) in order to get bonus disks, outtakes etc. It is a standard industry model and usually provides an improvement in audio quality with remastering and so on.

    So I won’t be complaining about this monumental box set and the fact that, if this is released as promised, Vol III is next!
    ...In 2052 probably... ;-)

    At 9/26/2020 03:10:00 PM, Blogger andrea1bianco said...

    Neil wrote that Sad Movies easn't recorded.
    So Tired

    At 9/27/2020 06:17:00 AM, Blogger Peter M said...

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    At 9/27/2020 06:23:00 AM, Blogger Peter M said...

    @andrea1bianco - Neil doesn't always seem to remember these things too well! He claimed recently in the NYA letters section that what he wrote about Deep Forbidden Lake being recorded for Homegrown in the Decade liner notes was wrong, and it doesn't appear in any of the potential tracklists they did for the album - despite it clearly being in a couple of his handwritten lists in the Homegrown related articles tab on NYA! Also appearing in one of the Homegrown tracklists from 1975 is 'Day and Night' - which is surely Sad Movies, and it has to be a studio version as it hadn't been played live at that stage.


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