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Tuesday, August 11, 2020

Updates on Neil Young Official Bootleg Series + Big Tech Tyranny Smackdown + More | NYA

Neil Young Goes "Bootleg Record Shoplifting" - December 1971
See "Neil Goes Bootlifting"
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Lots of NYA updates today.

In June 2020, Neil Young announced that he planned to release vintage bootleg recordings with improved sound and original art.
Neil Young had already previously announced in 2019 that the Archives will eventually be hosting "Bootleg Albums".

More recently on NYA, Neil updates that The Official Bootleg Series will start with 5 titles that will drop unannounced sometime in 2020. Then, in Letters to Editor, Neil responds to expect Bootleg Series in the beginning of 2021.
According to other Letters to Editor, Bootleg Series would include the Carnegie Hall 1970 concerts and maybe Cleveland 1973. More on Neil Young bootlegs below.
Also, in a LTE NEW LEVELS OF MEMBERSHIP, Neil indicates 2 new levels of subscribers: "We are considering 2 NEW levels of membership - One is ‘Patron’ we will be making a decision on that one soon. it will be more expensive with some added perks!"
And, if that's not enough Neil news,  NYA Volume 2 pre orders will be available soon exclusively from the NYA web site. Also, The Timeless Orpheum film will be a subscriber only exclusive on The Hearse Theatre before being released to the general public. 
Plus, there's more NYA-TC news: Goodbye Facebook and Google login.  The long awaited removal of Facebook and Google logins is now happening. Thanks Neil for being one of the few remaining left standing up against Big Tech Tyranny.
(Thanks Phil & Dan & CAH!)
While Bob Dylan unarguably holds the lead in the "official bootleg releases" category, Neil's latest move demonstrates that The Joker and The Thief remain in neck and neck in the friendly competition for singer-songwriter of the century.
"I’m So Happy That Y’all Came Down"
Neil Young: Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, Los Angeles - February 1st, 1971

Neil Young Vinyl Shopping - April 16, 2011
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At 8/11/2020 03:57:00 PM, Blogger CAH said...

So Nov 6th for volume 2.. If NYA plan to only make it available direct then I'm good with that as long as they'll be a UK/EU store option to avoid crippling customs and shipping costs.

As for removing Facebook/Google login options, good- who on earth uses those anyway. Wake up !

At 8/11/2020 06:14:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks for updates CAH. Always nice to hear from folks awake. :)

So earlier we asked why Homegrown isn't shown on Timeline in 2020, but instead it shows in 1975.

And folks pointed out the Timeline shows music creation point -- not release point.

OK, then, why is Rust Bucket showing in 2020 instead of 1990?

Or likewise, Return to Greendale in 2020 instead of 2003?

Or likewise, Young Shakespeare in 2021 instead of 1972?

There's something more going on in terms of defining where something shows up beyond just recording date, creation date, assembling date and release date.

Maybe some sort of toggle sort feature?

At 8/11/2020 07:37:00 PM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

Just a theory here, but perhaps the albums don’t get moved to their recorded spot on the timeline until after they are officially released. Just guessing.

Peace 🙏

At 8/12/2020 09:16:00 AM, Blogger CAH said...

I think Dan is on to something there, put it on the timeline initially when it's due to be unleased and then once it's out in the wild slot it back in to it's cronological recording position.

That way you can easily see the next releases coming our way but once released they move to their 'real' position in the timeline. Helps with visibilty of new releases ?

At 8/12/2020 09:52:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks Dan & CAH. That starts to make more sense.

As we recall, there was some sort of official explanation of Timeline logic. Maybe back w/ NYA#1 and Blurays?

maybe it's evolved since the Blurays to the online format? maybe it constantly evolves?

At 8/12/2020 12:36:00 PM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

“Its all one evolution”, its all one song”.

Peace 🙏

At 8/12/2020 12:49:00 PM, Blogger The Metamorphic Rocker said...

All of this is making me nostalgic to spend some time with my NYA1 blu-ray. There was a time when it was a really fun toy, with the novelty of discovering video clips and hidden tracks, browsing through the galleries, etc. I never did pin as many hopes on the rolling BD Live updates as some did, but even without that promise, I remember the North Country (Harvest period) disc in particular offering a wealth of extra treasure, including the record store clip embedded in thrasher's post.

Then there was the excitement--for me--of viewing JTTP for the first time. I'm overdue for a re-screening, plus a follow-up of Human Highway. Those were good days, back around 2009-11, with the vibrant discussions on this forum not just about the Archives but also Fork in the Road--a really dynamic period for Neil Heads, with NYA finally appearing after years (decades) of unrealized speculation.

"Keep on blogging 'till the lights go out" was a fitting mantra at the time.

I look forward to Young Shakespeare, perhaps early next year, and wonder who came up with the punning title that Rusties of a literary persuasion are sure to appreciate?--but I do hope we don't get stuck in a loop of endless early '70s concert releases when there's so much material spanning Neil's 50+ year career to unpack.

Until Rust Bucket and Return to Greendale came along, we seemed to be settling into a roughly chronological approach starting from the era hypothetically covered by Vol 2. This has its benefits in terms of organization and coherence, but OTOH, sticking to this model would mean those of us anticipating the likes of Toast may have a _loooong_ wait ahead. Now it looks like we may be skipping around the timeline again, which is arguably the least predictable and most exciting way forward.

With the various tiers and projects being announced, I truly appreciate that Neil seems to be trying to build a "choose your own adventure" approach. This was embedded, to an extent, in the virtual Archives format when the DVD and blu-ray releases were developed, but Neil is now finally building on the full potential of this concept. Hopefully, this means that in due course, there will be something on offer to suit Neil Nuts of all persuasions and preferences.

Om Shanti

At 8/12/2020 02:00:00 PM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

With touring on hold indefinitely, Neil has had a lot of free time to work on all this archive material. Unfortunately the pandemic also seems to be slowing down manufacturing, so even when a project is completed it will take some time to get it to market. This may make Hi Res streaming or purchases a viable option while we wait for a physical product.

In the letters this week Neil mentioned that there may be different subscriber levels costing more and offering extra access to certain items. This may just include viewing exclusive material or perhaps even the option of purchasing exclusive content. He also verified that like Archive Volume One, Volume Two will indeed be including some of the archive releases we already own. He did say that Volume Three may move away from this model. I certainly hope so, as I don’t really need two copies of anything.

The bootleg series are planned to be released on vinyl, but with the manufacturing delays, there is a chance they might be made available as a download option first. With Neil, one never knows what approach he will take. I’m just guessing, but that seems like a viable option.

I remember when Young Shakespeare was being featured on the Hearse Theatre, the performance of Down By The River was exquisite, so I’m really looking forward to hearing the entire album in January, hopefully. Neil has said he thinks that Young Shakespeare is better than Massey Hall, which is quite a statement to be sure.

I’m also one who enjoys bouncing around the timeline as far as releases go. I don’t need everything to be released chronologically. I prefer mixing it up, as Neil’s career has taken on so many different styles and directions over the years. There are so many unreleased albums listed on the timeline I’m not convinced I’ll live long enough to hear it all, but whatever Neil decides to do will be okay with me. As it stands right now. I already have a wealth of music from Neil to enjoy right now.

Peace 🙏

At 8/13/2020 08:53:00 AM, Blogger bijou shakey said...

by the way, the video of neil in the record store must be from late '71. you can clearly see rolling stone magazine with pete townshend on the cover, which came out december 9, 1971.

At 8/13/2020 05:29:00 PM, Blogger John said...

“Way Down in the Rust Bucket” album and film due in December 6th according to the NYA official Instagram account.

At 8/13/2020 06:05:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

@ Meta Rocker -"choose your own adventure" ... pretty much sums up being a neil fan

@ Dan - Bouncing around the timeline can be a very wild ride, depending on your mood.

But that's the thing. NYA lets you dial into a mood zone. From TTN depression to CH exhilaration. And all points in between. a neil for all seasons.

@ bijou shakey - now that is some sharp eyed astuteness there! thanks and updated.

@ John - hmm. we noticed that Neil stopped updating Twitter. Maybe that's part of his Big Tech boycott. Altho IG is owned by FB.

We hadn't checked IF in awhile but will do so.

Maybe once the NYA platform gets truly on its own, all Big Tech accnts will terminate?

show me the way, and we'll follow you someday ....

At 8/13/2020 07:48:00 PM, Blogger John said...

I thought it was odd that he made a big deal of leaving FB and then stayed on IG. I’m not one to judge, I did the same! IG seems less Hellworld-y (which probably means it’s even more insidious).

At 8/14/2020 12:30:00 AM, Blogger bijou shakey said...

@thrasher: you're welcome.

At 8/14/2020 03:07:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

A clarification from LRR on NYA Timeline logic:

"The timeline uses creation date now, with the exception being the planned, upcoming releases with release dates. Once they are released they will be moved back on the timeline to their creation date.

There is no official comment by NYA which gives this detail."


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