Curated Summary: Neil Young's Answers | Letters to the Editor | Times-Contrarian | Archives
Yet again, we interrupt our "unplanned/forced sabbatical" here at Thrasher's Wheat, with an update on Neil Young news.
Here is a curated summary of some of Neil Young's most interesting answers to Letters to the Editor | Times-Contrarian | Neil Young Archives by Robert Broadfoot.
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Answer to Answers #3
by Robert Broadfoot
Another curated summary of some of Neil's most interesting answers to Letters to the Editor in the Times-Contrarian with occasional ‘Editor’s’ comments by me. These replies date from August 31 to October 20, 2021, and are, as always, collated by the “Neil Young Unreleased” group on Facebook.
Albums / Songs / Timeline Concerts
- Neil confirms a hitherto unconfirmed session with Crazy Horse in 1997 with Rick Rubin producing, where he definitely recorded the so far unreleased Modern World, as well as Horseshoe Man and the older song Hard Luck Stories.
- No plans currently for any special releases to mark the Time Fades Away 50th anniversary in 2023.
- More film and audio of the 1976 Hammersmith Odeon shows with Crazy Horse is definitely coming with Archives Vol. 3.
- The Noise & Flowers album with POTR from the 2019 tour is “complete. On covid hold due to schedule problems”.
- Recordings of the 1970 CSNY Fillmore East shows are “not currently scheduled but in pre-production stage”.
- Apart from the already announced first six in the Official Bootleg Series, “more Bootlegs will come but none are planned currently”.
- Neil says he is not sure if he has ever played Do I Have To Come Right Out And Say It live. (Ed.: Sugarmtn.org doesn’t show any performances prior to 2004, but he played it twice at the Bridge School Benefit in 2004 solo acoustic. And in 2010-2011 with Buffalo Springfield but with Richie Furay on lead vocal.)
- Neil denies he was using cocaine when Déjà Vu was recorded, as implied in a Graham Nash book.
- A fan asks about the 1988-1989 version of Boxcar believed to have been planned for the unreleased album Times Square. Neil says: “I know we have worked on that recently. I think it is in (Archives) Volume 4.” (Ed.: There was originally talk of tracks from the Times Square sessions appearing on the Road Of Plenty/Amazing Freedom projects which Neil has previously talked about. It is not clear what the situation is now with those album projects and to what extent the content may now be integrated into Vol. 4. A 1990s version of Boxcar is certainly already planned for the forthcoming Ragged Glory – Spook The Horse project. Whether that too will land up on Vol. 4? Who knows?)
- “J Hanlon is working on Ragged Glory and Weld. POTR record (Noise & Flowers) is finished and waiting.”
- A request to hear the original recording of Will To Love from April 1976 without the later overdubs: “That could happen on Volume three… we will see.”
- The first version of Separate Ways released on Homegrown is “basically incomplete”. “Separate Ways was written for backgrounds, but they were never recorded and added for the original version.”
- Answering if there are recordings of Tim Drummond playing on Saddle Up The Palomino, a song Neil co-wrote with Tim and Bobby Charles, and recorded without either of these co-authors for American Stars ‘n’ Bars in 1977, Neil says: “It was written earlier and not recorded with Tim and Bobby”. (Ed.: The song title Carmelina, assumed to be an early version of Palomino, shows up as early as 1974 in plans for Homegrown. It was first performed live in 1984.)
- Neil admits to writing the "groove" of the Let’s Roll before 9/11. The lyrics followed, he says.
- Neil says the song Comes A Time was recorded for the very first time solo at Triiad in Fort Lauderdale in September 1977. (Ed.: This is, I believe, new information. The version used on the album was recorded in November at Woodland with the Gone With The Wind Orchestra.) The earlier Triiad version may be included on the Oceanside Countryside disc on Archives Vol. 3, says Neil.
- Neil implies that there would be a problem providing free hi-res downloads of Archives Vol. 1 material to previous buyers now because “We don’t know who bought volume 1”. The original downloads provided were only mp3 quality.
- Neil is already thinking about life after Barn: “Gonna try to write with the same method I used for Barn, which was slow and unhurried, but steady. Every day brings a new thought, feeling and sound. I just have to be here to pick up on it.”
- A collection of Neil’s live appearances with Paul McCartney? “What an interesting idea!... We will… see about building something there.”
- Neil confirms that the snippet of Guilty Train which can be heard at the end of Old Laughing Lady on Songs For Judy was indeed a separate song which was never completed and that a “similar version” will show up on Archives Vol. 3. (Ed.: Presumably from the Hammersmith Odeon section of the 1976 Crazy Horse Tour film, where it was played on 31 Mar 1976.)
- “Hippie Dream is not about just one person… or one event…. It’s so ugly.“
- Neil says he will think about releasing his own Bridge School Benefit performances as audio releases. Those of other BSB performers are unlikely as “record companies have to be dealt with as well”.
- NYA does not have a copy of the St. Paul Vote For Change Rockin’ In The Free World performance with Bruce Springsteen, REM, and John Fogerty.
- Neil says they will put up Bad Example, an unreleased song from the Americana sessions which was a cover of a Pistol Annies song, on NYA: “I think it’s a cool one.”
- Any progress on getting the rest of the Geffen albums into the hi-res store to purchase? “Yes. We are remastering.”
- Asked about an influence of Bert Jansch on Ambulance Blues, Neil says: “Of course I copied him!”
- Are there enough “usable tapes of CSNY to make up an album” no matter from which time period? “Maybe” says Neil.
- Blowing up the frequently discussed theory of what makes Broken Arrow, Down By The River and Country Girl a trilogy, as described by Neil during the Canterbury House performance, Neil says “I meant Down Down Down”. (Ed.: Down Down Down is listed on Déjà Vu anyway as forming part of that version of Country Girl.)
- Neil says they do not have a complete recording of the 1971 Royal Festival Hall solo show in London.
- Neil says a new version of Powderfinger is coming in Archives Vol. 3 – “I believe an acoustic version”. (Ed.: He is presumably referring to the 1976 The Boarding House live recordings, or possibly from the 1983 Solo Trans Tour. The only unreleased studio recordings from the 1970s and 1980s we know about are with Crazy Horse -- one from Billy Talbot’s house from May 1975, and one from Wally Heider’s in early 1976. Neither of those falls within the Vol. 3 timeline.)
Videos / Movies
- Bridge School Benefit videos: “We have them all and they are coming.”
- Neil confirms that In A Rusted Out Garage will definitely be part of Archives Vol. 3.
- The film of Mirror Ball Live with Pearl Jam in Dublin is “entering the postproduction/mix stage”.
NYA Stuff
- Neil confirms that Joel Bernstein, his friend and former archivist, is still involved with the work at NYA: “We communicate often to get his advice. He is again integral to (Archives) volume three. There is only one JB.”
- The Live At Vicar Street DVD is not shown as a separate entry on the NYA Timeline and elsewhere “because it was part of the Greendale package” and not a separate product.
- NYA will look at sorting Deep Search results chronologically in each section rather than by frequency of the search term.
- When asked when he began collecting all his recordings and material in an archive, Neil just says “I am a collector. Thus, I never throw things out. I can’t.” Fortunately for us!
- The NYA Team points out that the “alerts” on the NYA mobile app will only ever relate to material which is actually available on the app. News of Zoom calls for Patrons or for example, or new Movietone releases, will therefore not be announced that way.
- Katie at NYA confirms that Timeline Concert requests can only be made via the special request submission form at the foot of the itinerary of one of the existing TC entries on the Timeline. “Requests included in letters… cannot be processed.”
- Neil says that NYA will break even in terms of subscription income “pretty soon”.
- The sticky note placeholders on the Timeline, representing yet to be released archive-type albums, “will return”, says Neil.
Archive Crawls / Requests
- More takes of “You Never Call”, apart from the one on Journeys. (Ed: There is already one in the 2010 Atlanta Timeline Concert and another one in the Le Noise sessions video on Movietone.)
- Neil is still looking for a solo version of Mideast Vacation but says there is no tape.
- Helpless/Knocking On Dragon’s Door from the 1975 SNACK Benefit with Bob Dylan.
- See The Sky About To Rain, April 1971 version with the Stray Gators at Quadrafonic.
- Early 1969 Crazy Horse Tour recordings: Neil says, “I don’t think we have any”.
- Last Of His Kind and Mother Earth from the 2000 Farm Aid Volume One Live album.
- Another request for the Almost Famous soundtrack acoustic version of Cortez The Killer. Neil replies: “should be easy”. (Ed.: But he sadly still hasn’t posted it yet on NYA!)
- The Mary Turner KMET interview promo for Rust Never Sleeps from 1979 released as an LP by Warner.
- The non-Greendale half of the solo shows from Vicar Street, Dublin in May 2003.
- Songs not already included on the 1969 Live At The Riverboat album.
Miscellaneous
- Frank Gironda from Lookout, Neil’s management team, confirms that hi-res downloads are only provided free with audio releases purchased via the Greedy Hand Store. They are not provided with purchases of video products.
- Frank also says: “Warner is working to get the European (Greedy Hand) store opened as quick as possible, and we hope that it will be fully functional by early next year.”
- Neil on his science fiction novel Canary: “I don’t know when it will be released. I was recently asked to do some illustrations! That stopped me in my tracks!!” (Ed.: We know Neil does cars, so why not spaceships?)
- A fan asks how come a girl in the audience shouts “How's Zeke?” in between Nowadays Clancy and Sugar Mountain on the Carnegie Hall album. Neil's answer from the stage is: “He's wonderful”. Since Zeke wasn’t born until almost 2 years later, how could that be? Neil is perplexed. (Ed.: I think the likely answer is that the girl actually asks: “How’s Steve?” meaning Stephen Stills.)
- “How do you hit those high notes?” Neil: “I don’t. I surround them according to Leonard Bernstein.” (Ed.: Does anyone know what Bernstein quote Neil is referring to? I don’t!)
- Neil left the stage during the performance of Southern Man at the CSNY 1973 Oakland Coliseum show “because there was a disturbance in the audience involving black and white people. It blew my mind. I left.”
- Neil says that at a guess he owns “30 or so” guitars, and “six or seven” vintage cars, and that he loves Colorado as a permanent home, though he loves the Pacific Ocean too. (Ed.: And presumably North Ontario too!)
- Neil confirms that he still has the right to decide what to publish and perform without getting permission from Hipgnosis, who recently bought a 50% share in his total catalogue.
Thanks again Robert for all the invaluable research! Also, here are deatils on Robert's other Neil research:
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Neil Young's Unreleased Songs:
The Unofficial Archive - UPDATE Version 7 (Abridged): 12 November 2019
Also, see Neil Young's Missing Recordings | NYU.
And many, many eternal thanks to all the unsung researchers and their labors of love.
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25 Comments:
I have this sinking feeling Archives Volume 3 Blu Ray is going to cost a small fortune. This is going to be huge on every level and I personally can’t wait to experience what looks to be an epic release. Start saving up because it won’t be cheap, but it will be awesome. We are being blessed the riches beyond our wildest dreams….. be grateful and know that there is something spectacular to look forward to in the new year.
Peace 🙏
Agree Dan but I have too have it all. I could have bought a hugh house with what I've paid for ny music and taking my kids to concerts. They have families now but still.fit in concert stories. It warms my heart
Yikes. We had best be saving up. It’s hard to go without the physical product. We are lucky we can afford to dream about it. Alan in Seattle
Hey Thrasher,
Glad you found my Letters to the Editor summary interesting. Just so readers know, there are two earlier summaries lower down the same column on the Members Central page on NYA Times-Contrarian if anyone wants to look back further. There’s a lot of interesting stuff in be Neil’s replies. And NYA have asked me to keep the summaries going so watch out for more.
Best as always
Robert
Those summaries are just great. Love having it all condensed together so I can digest all the information. Thanks
Peace 🙏
Still so much to come…….. brilliant news
My most anticipated list is:
Vol3
Toast
Broken Arrow and Unplugged vinyl reissues (finally after 20yrs my collection will be complete!!!!)
My most anticipated is Volume 3 (with Countryside/Oceanside I hope!) and Smell The Horse (Ragged Glory with outtakes).
Thanks Robert! Someone has to do it! Alan in Seattle
Digestible bite size portions, yes!
Thank God, and Thanks Neil!
I complained a lot about NYA2 not having a Blu ray option; now I’ve gotta try to follow thru and but Vol 3 !
Buy… vol 3
@ Robert - thanks again so much for the compilations. We think that many busy readers appreciate the summaries. And great to know NYA appreciates as well.
@ Alan - thanks for the feedback here as always. just a gentle suggestion. Consider putting your multi replies into an individual comment using "@". Similar to this. Makes following the thread a bit more easy.
peace
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The Scotsman published allready a review of Barn!
@ Hans - and where can find The Scotsman review of Barn??
With the announcement of yet another project to be included in the aforementioned NYA Box No.3 tentatively called "Fresh Tracks" and supposedly also to be released as a stand-alone SRS edition I propose that Neil Young should have his own vinyl pressing facility to meet his demands. This guy draws faster than his own shadow...
The eight tracks mentioned on NYA's front page make for an interesting list, especially if one considers they were created just (a couple of days, weeks?) after the difficult 1987 European tour (see Muddy Track).
How about this for a album description: from Amazon.
BARN, the new Neil Young/Crazy Horse album was recorded in a remote, restored, 19th century log barn. This musical family has played together for a half century, yet they continue creating new music. Neil and the Horse fans have long shouted for “more barn” and here it is… 10 new songs that capture the wild, rock and roll spirit, the idiosyncratic raw sound and the lyrical beauty that epitomizes a classic NYCH collaboration. The last song appeared on the last morning and was recorded just an hour later during a pounding hailstorm and during the full moon. The album was recorded this summer over a handful of days. The ten new songs encompass all that Neil Young with Crazy Horse are known for, beautiful romantic acoustic ballads, powerhouse electric rockers and insightful rollicking tunes that stick with you. Niko Bolas was parked adjacent to the barn, in an exquisite analog mobile recording truck, Le Mobile ready to capture and mix the album on the spot. Produced by The Volume Dealers – Neil Young and Niko Bolas, the album will be released on vinyl, CD, cassette and digitally (including h-res audio on NYA). There will also be a deluxe edition that will include the LP, CD. and Blu-ray film.
The last song written and recorded in a matter of hours…. that’s Neil, full moon and all.
@dionys: Love your comment “ This guy draws faster than his own shadow... ”. That just cracked me up….. thank you.
Back to my original post here, Volume 3 is going to be huge. Especially if Neil keeps adding to it, which looks to be the case. Frankly, I don’t care how big he makes it, or how expensive it has to be to release it, I’M ALL IN !!!! I don’t even mind if it gets delayed….. this volume is going to cover a whole lot of ground, and I’m really looking forward to taking the whole journey. Music, Movies, Videos, Photos, Ephemera…. All in glorious High Definition Blu Ray.
When can I preorder???
Peace 🙏
@Dan The line is stolen from a very famous series of humourous western comics created by Morris an outstanding Belgian comic artist, the text - and probably also this line - were the invention of René Goscinny (the man behind Asterix, even more famous comic series known across Europe). There is an old cover of the (American) Rolling Stone magazine depicting Neil Young as a cowboy figure which very much resembles Lucky Luke. Credit where credit's due. And sometimes I just wonder where to put alll this useless pointless knowledge...
More of the same, please skip if you're not interested. The other day I discovered a 1965 home-recording by Bert Jansch "It Don't Bother Me" and - lo and behold! - i has a song titled "Lucky Thirteen". There is also a comment by Jansch to this song, or maybe by his compadre John Redburn, who wrote: "Lucky 13 was written after I escaped (...)". So that relates to Neil Young's cover for "Life", I believe, which had a photograph showing the artist behind bars. 1965 was the time when young folk musicians in Britain struggled to escape the folk club orthodoxy of the 50's, a fact that was most obvioulsy documented when audiences yelled "Judas!" at Dylan's shows on his 1966 tour. All that in the context of Neil Young being accused by Geffen Records for not making records sounding like Neil Young.
Wonderful stuff indeed. I’ll take all the history you have to give, everything is a bit different here in the U. S. and frankly, I like learning about what other places are like, and the people who live there. It expands my horizons and helps me understand and relate better. I do remember the Rolling Stone cover with Neil looking like a cowboy though. Was old enough to buy it at the time. I really enjoy and appreciate your thoughts and your input. Keep it coming my friend. I remember my dad used to tell me “if you go a whole day without learning something new, you’re just not paying attention “.
Peace 🙏
It's always exciting to hear that Neil is working on new projects from his archives. "Summer songs" would only contain well-known songs, stripped down, with different lyrics or even different verses. Nice. But I hope it won't push back Toast, Noise And Flowers, Alchemy, etc... He also says that Summer Songs could be a preview album for Archives 3 (a bit like Homegrown for Archives 2, I guess) but Neil said that Archives 3 would only contain unreleased albums... He does what he wants but it's hard to follow... Let's discover Barn, first !!!
Phil (from the country where Lucky Luke was born)
Dionys, useless, pointless, knowledge? I don't think so- really interesting and funny.
I understand and appreciate everyone's ongoing interest in Archives and lost albums or whatever, Homegrown was immense. On the other hand, I always get quite motivated by new Neil, reminds me of the days when my friends and I would be at the record store first thing for the new release and it was almost always something inventive, brilliant, and strangely unique. Here I am, many years later, just as motivated to hear this new record. There is some guy who comes on this blog and trashes Neil's records post Briggs. He has some points. But I don't think he has the bigger picture. All that brilliance is still in Neil (in my opinion), it just hasn't quite come together in a complete way in some time. Perhaps this time.
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