NEW RELEASE: Neil Young "Live at the Cellar Door" on December 10th
As we reported this summer, Neil Young's next release will be Live At The Cellar Door.
Live At The Cellar Door was recorded in Washington D.C. during a six-show stand between November 30th and December 2nd, 1970. This will be release 2.5 in the Archives Performance Series and released on on December 10th.
Probably of most interest to fans will be the solo piano version of "Cinnamon Girl".
The track-listing for Live At The Cellar Door is as follows:
Side One:
Tell Me Why
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
After The Gold Rush
Expecting To Fly
Bad Fog Of Loneliness
Old Man
Birds
Side Two:
Don't Let It Bring You Down
See The Sky About To Rain
Cinnamon Girl
I Am A Child
Down By The River
Flying On The Ground Is Wrong
Note that "See the Sky About to Rain" on Archives Vol. 1 Disc 6 is an edit of Dec. 1 and Dec. 2 shows.
It seems there's been a change in thinking on the release. From a Oct. 2009 interview with Guitar World magazine:
Guitar World: So how many Archives sets are we looking at?From Steve Hoffman Forums:
Neil Young: Maybe four, maybe five. It depends on how much cutting and paring down we do, and how much we get into using BD-Live, which is a really remarkable thing. It's tremendous. It's remarkable because we really only saw that aspect of it for the first time six or seven months ago....One thing that we figured out is that we're going to be able to do progressive download updates. So for instance, around 1970 I played a show at the Cellar Door club in Washington, D.C. That show was taped, but we don't have enough great takes to release it as its own disk.
Instead, I'll probably make the songs available as downloadable updates to Archives. We'll drop them onto the timeline one at a time... One thing I'll tell you about the next volume of Archives is that Time Fades Away II is in there. And it's interesting because the whole thing has a different drummer than what was on that album. I switched drummers halfway through the tour- Kenny Buttrey was in there for the first half, and Johnny Barbata came in for the second. It's a completely different thing, with completely different songs. So that's interesting. There's lots of stuff like that that I'm working on right now for the second volume.
All the 6 shows(30th November,1,2 Dec.1970) were recorded by Henry Lewy for a planned double album combined with the electric songs at the Fillmore East. The Cellar Door were 8-track recordings. It's likely that some multitracks from these concerts still survive . Most of the original reels from these shows were shown at The Visit To The Archives(2000, Neil.Young.com). Some of the master logs are also listed in the Archives Book. The Neil Young Archives have all the 2 tracks from these shows. Sugar Mountain by Tom Hambleton takes his information from the Ghost on The Road(Pete Long), which sources are provided by Joel Bernstein. Neil promised the release of this record in Waging Heavy Peace, so this is really a great news.Obviously, there's a lot going on with "The Cellar Door".
"The Cellar" was a Winnipeg club that Neil Young & The Squires once played.
The song "The Needle and the Damage Done" has the lyrics "knocking on my cellar door" line.
A very young Nils Lofgren talked his way backstage and introduced himself to Neil Young at Cellar Door club in Washington, D.C.
I caught ya knockin' at my cellar door...
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by thrasher@PermaLink: 10/21/2013 06:28:00 PM
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I think the release date is November 6th not December 10th here in the USA.
As much as I will love listening to this I find the first release in the Archives series in the 21/2 years since "A Treasure" to be frustrating.From the Archives Vol 1 era of Neil's career we already have 3 live solo concert releases-Canterbury House,Riverboat and Massey Hall.Meanwhile next June will mark 5 years since the release of Archives 1 and 4 years since the post on NY Times outlining much of the structure of Archives 2.
I know this is not the site to criticise Neil in any way but I can't believe that it would take anything more than his OK to move Archives 2 towards early 2014 release.Someone once asked me how long I wanted to live (I am 59)and I replied I would like to live to hear all the volumes of Neil Young Archives.I feel I was asking for eternal life.C'mon Neil Free The Archives.
Archives Performance Series 2.5... ahahahahahahahha!!!
Good ol' Neil sure has a great sense of humor! ;)
Come on... give us Homegrown, Toast, Time Fades Away 1 & 2, Bluenote Cafè 1,2 and 3.5, Tokyo/London '76, Old Ways n°3 and 33.....(I could go on forever...) ;)
I had the same reaction, love all live Neil, have yet to be unimpressed with any of his shows or tapes, but was surprised that the date was so close to all the prior releases ... it should be called 1.1 or something ... I'm not complaining ... something is better than nothing .. and we waited like 30 years for Archives 1 .. so I guess thats how it goes
He held too much back in Volume 1, so we should all be happy. The more the merrier. And I don't want to have to worry about him not releasing something because it's 'another solo show'.
I believe the quote was '...the good, the bad, and the ugly'. Let us hear it all.
Syscrusher
I agree with anonymous 7:23, as much as I can't wait to hear this cd, I was hoping for something more recent like Toast.
The brick wall echoes After he Goldrush cover from the same era.
agree we need to see some more stuff from later...how about Neil doing something crazy like a 20 disc "Archives Performance Series" release, like the entire Bluenotes tour. I love the Performance Series discs but why always a single disc set? I hope we'll see some outrageous multi-disc sets released soon., Grateful Dead style boxes of live performances. Don't see why that isn't possible or compatible with the structure of the releases so far. Same thing, but bigger. Then go back to a 1cd set :-d
and they need to pick up the pace...how about releasing Homegrown at least???
A studio album Archives release is overdue!
I still hope this will be released as a BD-Live download as well.....having spent so much on the Archives (etc etc, rant rant, yawn yawn).
...The problem with these old guys is that they still remember the days when most people actually bought records. In an age when recorded music has dropped so much in value, they have to milk the die-hard fans for all they are worth.
That's why most of us have got the same albums on CD, vinyl, blu-ray etc.....and besides, those formats all sound so much better than each other!
The Flying Scotsman.
...or how about Royce Hall and Dorothy Chandler Pavillion 1971 shows as a 2cd set?!
Don't get me wrong, I'm over the moon that Cellar Door is being released...just give us more!
Repetition doesn't matter, hearing the performances does.
Just release a whole lot of stuff together rather than spread it out over years and years!!
What's 33?
I'd like to see Old Ways I as well :-)
This is extremely good news...but it is also disappointing since years ago it was "get your turntables ready for Oceanside/Countryside & Homegrown" on Neil's website.
I miss Ben Keith.
I miss David Briggs.
Disappointed with all the 70's stuff that hasn't been released we basically get another repeat. And why is this a 2 cd set it seems the greedy hand is at work what should be a 9.99 I cd will probably be a 14.95 9 if were lucky 2 cd set and don't ask how much the vinyl will be
Where does it say it is a 2 CD set? Unless I'm missing something all it says is:
"As with Young's previous releases in the Archives series, Live At The Cellar Door will be released digitally, on CD, and on 180-gram vinyl (mastered by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering and pressed at Pallas in Germany)."
Yes!
Repetition doesn't matter, hearing the performances does. Live music is better.
Makes me wonder what PS 2.75 will be. . .
JG
At this rate my 26 year old son will have a lot of unreleased Neil to look forward to. Neil and I will both be long gone before any of this stuff comes out.
As an elected representative of Neil's fans in their mid-20s (we all think completely alike), I must say this release does little to excite me. In fact, my gut instinct is to ILLEGALLY download this, seeing as I saved up for the blu-ray archives specifically for extra planned downloads such as this.
Normally, I would never even think of doing that. But it shows a lack of respect for the fans in my opinion to promise so much and deliver so little, and that naturally makes me reluctant to part with any more money. "Once bitten, twice shy" is the expression, I think. I don't feel bad about saying all this, because I know many others feel the same.
Personally, I would LOVE to hear the Bluenotes live album, the 76 Crazy horse tour, the Eldorado tour, an OPL show (if any were taped). I would also love to see Weld and RNS on blu-ray. And a 1993 Booker T show! ...And the film of The Dublin show in 1995 with Pearl jam!
And on and on....!
Unfortunately these releases are so unbelievably slow by modern standards that by the time even half of those are released, Neil will be 90 years old (a.k.a dead), and so will most of the fans. There will be nobody left to listen. So learn something from the modern artists who are thriving right now, Neil, and speed things up a bit!
Can you name some of the modern artists who are releasing their back catalogues of unreleased albums and live performances and Archives at such a rapid rate?
Can you provide some examples to substantiate your argument?
Neil Young fans have been extremely fortunate in the wealth of material, much of it in incredible quality, over the years that has been released. To think otherwise because you didn't get something you wanted is ridiculous. Very few artists have released this volume of material over their careers.
Thanks!
I have about the same reaction as everyone else - I love the additional live performance material but it's plowing a lot of the same ground and the other releases.
Here is my fear (and I hope to God I am just pissing in the wind)... the next Archives never gets released - something happens to Neil health-wise and all that time he thought he had in front of him evaporates. As someone who is getting up in years and seeing friends leave this plane of existance, you just can't count on their being enough time to do all the things you planned to on the schedule of your own making. If Neil wants to control his legacy (which is what I want him to do), I think it would behoove him to show a bit of urgency.
@SD - Bob Dylan comes to mind. Neil's going to end up like Hendrix. His kids will be living off his back catalog 30 years from now. Maybe that's the plan?
@Old Black. Well said. Hey Archives Guy, you dead yet?
Like I said earlier in the year, it's a lack of professionalism from Neil's team, promising things and (seemingly) never delivering them.
The release info for the Beatles Live at the BBC volume 2 release next month (exciting!) was accidentally leaked on the Philippines website of EMI which was a mistake, but they didn't threaten to cancel the release (a la A Treasure), or postpone it for years and years / indefinitely. At least I hope they won't!
Conversely, we get told how great these old tapes sound and that they're coming soon, and then.... Nothing!
Don't get me wrong, I love Neil Young and am sorry to be too young to have lived through all these gigs and releases, but I would genuinely rather not know how much great stuff there is in the vaults if I'm never going to be able to hear it!
I know Neil values audio quality and always appreciate it when his records sound great, but if you can record, produce and release something in weeks (Living With War) then it is surely possible to remaster and edit things in a reasonable timespan too?
Maybe not, and I feel sorry to be ranting about it! I just would like to hear it soon after hearing about it, rather than spending literally years asking "where is Toast/ Chrome Dreams / Trunk Show / Time Fades Away II / Homegrown / Archives 2 / Etc!
Looking forward to this gig at least!
To SD:
The majority of successful modern artists release their material in quick succession. Why? Because if they don't, they are quickly forgotten about. Someone else quickly replaces them: they are forgotten. The growth of the internet has changed everything. Even the old, established acts are realising they have a shelf life, too. Nobody is remembered for all that long.
People are fickle. The internet has given us lots of things demanding our attention, and we only have so much attention to give.
Young acts don't have the same benefit of being established ''legends' as Neil does. They are from a different era, an era where the music business as we know it is quickly dying. They have to stay in the limelight constantly just to survive!
Their solution to this is to release more, more often - whether it be regular singles, a constant string of EPs, youtube videos of demos and performances, streamed live performances etc....(BD-Live was a good example of this, too). Not much individually, but it all adds up over a few months, and then years. I know that you're well aware of all this. So in answer to your question, pick your own examples; they are plentiful.
OF COURSE, I am not attempting to degrade Neil's hugely-prolific output over the years. Nothing could be more obvious. But as he enters his later years, an aging giant in a collapsing industry, it seems a good idea for him to adopt a smiliar approach: Release more, more often. That's how to survive, how to adapt. There's not enough time to do things the 70's way, for the artist OR the audience. The clock is ticking, faster than ever. Fortunately, in this case, the material is already recorded: the work is already done!
Doesn't that make sense?
Of course, if you are happy with the idea that by the time Archives vol 3 comes out, you will be 230 years old, then all is well! I was just saying how it seems to me.
Referring to the Cellar Door recordings, Neil said "That show was taped, but we don't have enough great takes to release it as its own disk." When (and how) did this change? This kinda reminds me of the 1974 CSNY Tour--In 1974 "It sucked" but by 2012 "It was great"...
Guys , sorry this is pure repeat ,many have articulated what they would like to see come out and they all have valid issues given what we kinda know that NY has stacked away, reruns of songs we should be bored of by now simply do not inspire any further interest ,surely we must have all hear these songs really so many times by now. Another live rendition from a well covered era is not enticing at all. Does anyone want to mention the so called hundred plus unreleased songs , clearly dozens of classics that might be moulded into some beautiful releases? No churn it our again we can lap it up and pay it up , fan since 1980 when I was young
Looking forward to revisiting old music memories to see if NY was as good as I remember his performance at CD. Recall the weather outside was frigid but the music and wine coolers inside was great.
I received an email from Neilyoung.com about a release on November 26...
Where are you all getting your info about this release from?I don't see this on Neil's own site or Amazon.Also.How are you so sure about track listing?
I for one am actually really excited about this. Yeah there's other things that I would like to hear but I'm just glat to get more Neil. Since I'm a pretty young fan I have plenty of time to wait for Archives Vol 2 and Homegrown and the like
where the hell is Trunk Show? the Jones for that thing hasn't died.
I also received the email from neilyoung.com saying that it will be released on Nov. 26.
http://www.amazon.com/Live-Cellar-Door-Neil-Young/dp/B00G34XP3Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=138261
Shaun Friel somehow hooked us all up with Trunk Show a few months ago...and for that we all should be grateful! But I still want it in high definition audio!!
Seems clear to me that all the shows we are asking about are simply not ready yet (as in Neil's not ready to release them), so as an after thought, he decided to throw us a bone, and release this show.
As in, he released this just for us, the hardcore fans.
I mean, take a look at some peoples bootleg lists, you wanna talk about redundant? This show is not redundant, because no one's ever heard it before! Can't really beat that can we?
Unless, I suppose, a video was released of the entire Finjan show from Volume 1. Hmm, that's a pretty good idea actually...Neil?
Syscrusher
I may have a line on Trunk Show. Thank you friends for the concern and hand wringing worry over getting it to me, Youre the best. Piece of mind is allot and now youre relieved. That said, having both Sugar Mt and Massey not that excited about Cellar Door. Have a good summer and stay cool.
You can find the Trunk via Shaun Friel (thanx). Great show. Agree with most all of the above... the early Seventies ended once, for sure, but Neil seems unable to get the Archives going again after Harvest.... let's roll into the Ditch, Neil!
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