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Thursday, October 09, 2025

Neil Young vs. Amazon: Neil Young To Withdraw Music from Amazon.com

Neil Young vs. Amazon
image via Rusted Moon

Neil Young has announced that he will withdraw his music catalog from Amazon Music.

Folks may recall back in 2022 when Neil Young had his music catalog removed from Spotify.

In a statement on Neil Young Archives, Neil Young announced that his music will soon no longer be available on the platform. In the message, published on October 8, 2025, he urged people to stop shopping at Amazon and its US supermarket chain Whole Foods: 
"FORGET AMAZON AND WHOLE FOODS. 
Stop buying from big corporations."
Instead, people should "buy local" and "buy direct." Consumers should support their community and visit local businesses. The goal is to "Take America Back" by doing the right thing and supporting local businesses.

Neil goes on to criticize big corporations for "selling out America" accusing corporations of crippling the US government, endangering people's incomes, undermining personal safety, and jeopardizing families' healthcare. 



Neil Young specifically mentions Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, who supports the Trump administration. He argues that America is at the beginning of an "age of corporate control." Everyone must therefore give up something to save the country. Therefore, Neil Young concludes: 
"Soon, my music will no longer be available there."
Neil Young has had a long and tangled relationship with digital music vendors such as Amazon. Much of the struggle is detailed in the book "To Feel the Music" by Neil Young and Phil Baker.

More on Neil Young and Amazon Music @ Neil Young Speaks On Amazon Music HD

Also, see more on supporting local farmers market @ Forty Days and Forty Nights and Forty Years of Farm Aid.  Also, see video of Neil Young at Farm Aid Press Conference where he calls for a "conscience tax" on billionaires (@ link below).


"We need a "Conscience Tax" on billionaires"
Neil Young at 2025 Farm Aid Press Conference
(see video at bottom of @ link above)

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140 Comments:

At 10/09/2025 01:27:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

After seeing the Coastal movie on the big screen , I sought out the soundtrack. Only to find Neil pulled the release to correct issues. Then I noticed it was available as a hi res d/l in the NY d/l store. But no vinyl? Odd, but the Vinyl was available on Amazon so i snagged it. Looked like an “official” release but sound was what I can only describe as intermittent “digitized skipping”. And not on all songs. So I reached out to NYA cust support. They said a few of the pulled releases made there way to Amazon. They graciously provided me with a d/l link. They rock @ NYA 😎
Caveat Emptor.

 
At 10/09/2025 01:41:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Fuk Amazon. Fuk Hole Foods. Fuk Bezos. Fuk T Rump.

 
At 10/09/2025 04:27:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Wasn't Blackstone a large corporation?

 
At 10/09/2025 05:11:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Isn’t T Rump the President of the U.S. ?
TODAY?
Try and stay tuned in…

 
At 10/09/2025 11:59:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

Neil's never been particularly consistent when it comes to Amazon. I remember not that long ago how he was praising the company for having hi-res streaming, and I was like, really, that's enough for you? That said, I don't expect consistency in anyone. It's an impossible standard. I just hope most of us are at least trying to do right by each other.

 
At 10/10/2025 10:05:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Support Farmers Markets!
+ use cash

 
At 10/10/2025 02:11:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

There are many people who cannot "buy local" because there is nothing to buy. There are many food deserts in the US, especially now in rural areas. The farmers market world is most generally for white middle-upper middle class people. It is a good sentiment and probably good for many people but we will need mass production of food and this includes corporations.

 
At 10/10/2025 05:46:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Maybe more? What flavor was that koolade? (Red no doubt). And yes, that is a flavor. According to RFK jr.

 
At 10/10/2025 07:37:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

You think w name like Prime you may get movies w out minutes long commercials. You're not Prime enough for that . I have the great war of Squirrel 🐿️ going on. I need that 2 day. Even in Holbrook Rte 66

 
At 10/11/2025 03:06:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Ok, thanks Abner.

Support farm-to-table dinners. Buy a meat box or a CSA (community supported agriculture) share.

Use farms as venues for weddings, baby showers, or birthday parties.

There are quite a few practical, direct actions.

 
At 10/11/2025 10:26:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

There will be a gigantic US protest nationwide, & worldwide, on Saturday Oct 18!
Dan & I will be involved and present. Even Red state Idaho has been seeing enormous turnout for protests.

If you value Democracy and the protection of the Constitution, you should go to the protests and add to their numbers. We need to force Democracy on the US. The level of corruption Trump places in the Justice Dept and elsewhere is unprecedented. We need to push this mean moron out. His tantrums of destruction are erasing the American Dream as we watch. “Get offa that couch, turn off your MTV.”

Since evil King Dumbass has put terror in the hearts of immigrants, they have self-deported (over a million) to the extent that the farms are struggling with no workers to pick the crops, process the food, etc.

Lazy white people and others will not work hard in the fields for very-little-money. So, food will be scarce and prices will jump.

Trump says he loves Capitalism as he dismantles it. And it is hard to do much without food.

Yes, the Empire is crumbling. It matters not to me that Neil Young is taking his music back from Amazon.

Quality issues from Coastal? Screaming Trees had a similar issue with LP production. The band re-released their first album “Clairvoyance” and some people got a crappy / dirty side of vinyl.

To Hell with DT and his krappy koolade krew (KKK). Rise up. Millions in the streets can steer us to a new Gov’t. Bring it on.

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/11/2025 10:32:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Oct 18, 2025, #NoKings
Be there or you can’t say much about resistance. It’s 1939: What would you do? Lemmings put on brown shirts and held load the prisoners onto trains for the genocide.

Now the shoe is on the other foot: our tax money is used by both parties for Genocide in Gaza. Did Trump really abandon his idea of a Middle East Riviera built on the rubble of Gaza? I doubt it.

Trump will fly into a rage after he fails to win a Nobel Prize.

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/11/2025 12:16:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

Thrasher, yes! In Iowa, small producers of many crops are increasing their income every year! We are all for the same thing, just many difficulties we need to address!

 
At 10/11/2025 12:59:00 PM, Blogger Dan Swan said...

Amazon, Meta, X, FoxNews, and all the others financing this authoritarian regime are complicit. But the real butchers are in the government doing their bidding. So we all need to focus on the government rather than boycotting industries. We all need to get out in the streets and exercise our first amendment rights, and fearlessly protest peacefully. We only need 3.5 percent of the population to stand up strong against this tyrannical regime to take it down. We’ve already waited too long to wake up. So get out there on October 18th and let your voice be heard…..we outnumber them!!

Peace to all, and Power to the People 🙏

 
At 10/11/2025 05:16:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Listen guys, let us lay our reality down. We've gone to school and lived in Washington DC since late 70s.

We've been inside of every House Building... Rayburn, Cannon, etc
Every Senate Building Hart, Russell, etc lobbying our eleceted/selected representatives.

Protested at White House, Pentagon and most agencies... EPA, Interior, Agricultural. State, etc

If you really think people on the streets matters, go for it. That's exactly what they want. Your time occupied by meaningless sign waving, chanting, etc

But you trying to grow your own food on 10x10 plot?

That scares the crap out of the PTB.

Bartering, trading in the underground economy. Generating your own energy with micro-Hydro, biomass, etc. This is Corporate fear. Our independence.

Break free. That's the most radical act.

We see a lot of traditional actions that play it safe. No risk. Easy stuff.

We're beyond this. Stop wasting time and act locally. Super local. Stop supporting corporations. It's a lot easier than you've been lied to about.

You want to make a difference? GET off the grid, disconnect.

That's a better use of time.

 
At 10/11/2025 11:24:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Dan, Alan & Everyone else: I know we are getting to “Them”. You can tell by the way they are calling No Kings an Anti American Rally. That message maybe true in other countries, even the one’s with monarchs, but the World is watching & knows the truth. This is an Anti Trump Rally.
I am sick to my core about all the divisions, hatred and vindictiveness. The lies. We are winning.
The turnout has grown with each protest fueled by all the daily nonsense led by T Rump & his flunky stooges. There will be pain and lots of it to come, but it’s always darkest before the dawn.
Stay safe. Stay strong.

 
At 10/11/2025 11:32:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

3.5% of the Total population is what it takes to turn the tide and toss the regime. We are on the precipice of Big Change.

 
At 10/12/2025 12:13:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

Many Americans (and other humans elsewhere)
… understand that their society overstretched the supply lines
… reach out to their neighbours, no matter what color of skin they have, where they come from or whom they love
… start moving into smaller houses or apartments
… try to increase communal resilience and public wealth as opposed to supersize their
swimming pools, golf clubs or private caribbean islands
… use bicycles instead of SUVs and other recreational tanks to do their daily errands
… begin installing solar panels to lessen dependency on conventional electricity based on burning fossil fuel
… came to question the habit that every grocery item has to be wrapped in three layers of plastic
… do not believe that “best before” translates as “absolutely lethal after”
… grow a vegetable garden to work towards food sovereignty
… learn how to cook their meals themselves in order to acquire some taste of their own as opposed to standardized tastes produced by the food industry
… don’t have a problem with eating less meat
… don’t buy the idea that 500 different GMO yoghurts and chlorine chicken make for a consumer paradise
… think twice before they book a transcontinental or even intercontinental flight to see a concert by their favourite rock star
… remember the idea that an education that deserves being called education is rather about values than about bought and paid for knowhow to make even more money
… believe that illness, handicap and old age are not an individuals fault and therefore conclude that no individual should not fall victim to the capitalist pseudo-puritan darwinists
… that nature is more than a resource or a pretty landscape for the holidays
… believe that a democratic government as such is as imperfect as any human undertaking but they know they can’t do without one
… that acting on behalf of themselves, the common good, and a liveable future of their descendants instead of lining the White House outhouse with gold, is an expression of free speech
… are taking to the streets because they support some of the ideas above while their government is running away with their country

So Alan, Dan and Thrasher are all on the right track, I believe and their ideas do not exclude each other.

Maybe you can check some of the ideas on this list. If you can’t, maybe you should ask yourself whether you overstayed your welcome on this planet?

 
At 10/12/2025 12:32:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

So basically, if you don't follow your ideal way of living, you don't deserve to live? Got it.

Some might say that way of thinking is almost what might be called fascism....

 
At 10/12/2025 12:57:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

Ah, I understand you can't check some of these ideas? That's a pity... But maybe you can come up with better ones? What's wrong with growing a garden? Why is it difficult to accept that nature also is something else beyond recreational and resource value? Why is criticising the ostentatious makeover of the White House toilets fascist? Do you really need 500 different GMO yoghurts? Were you ever taught that beyond grocery prices there is something called values? And if so, do you know where one can buy them?
There's but one word in your comment that rings some truth: "ideal". "Ideal" originally meant that a human being follows some ideas in his or her daily life. Actually we all do. I did not propose that my ideas are the only ones, I did not propose that others who don't subscribe to any of this on my list don't deserve to live. That's your distorted reading. But yes, I believe eventually those who overstay their welcome on this planet will go the way of the dodo and the dinos.

 
At 10/12/2025 02:03:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

I agree with a lot of what you said. I like the suggestions you made, except the part about “sign waving being waste of time” I could not disagree more with that.

Although the frog brigade is doing a great job of de-escalating ICE and erasing their excuses.

Americans are only waking up to participation in Government even past elections. The communal vibes of the peaceful protests fill people with hope.

Women’s rights, & those of diverse people are being erased. It’s fine to be Racist. This is NOT OK with me.

We are fighting Racism, Fascism, Tiny-minded attacks on science, and standing up for human decency.

Those of us who are protesting are doing the job for the rest. In reality, we need all hands on deck.

If we do as the Europeans do, millions in the streets can really make a difference. Especially if it’s day after day!

The people must demand free speech and the right to protest. Civil rights are being taken away, usually from non whites.

I care about all of the citizens & the inhuman treatment of immigrants is unacceptable! We need workers in the US, especially in the jobs that are now vacant because Trump chased out the workers. They should be paid a lot more, and given free health care if they will work in our country. All of the citizens should have total health care coverage.

Easier to ignore for the white guys. If you own land, you can do a lot more of what you want to do, like grow crops.

I do like the list Dionys made.

Get out and Protest on October 18th while protest is still legal. This is 1939… what would you do to stop it?

Our basic Human Rights and American Rights here in the US are being stripped and threatened. The Police State Fascists are trying to provoke a reaction.

I say, keep it peaceful but definitely protest! Soon we may not be allowed to protest, and that is “In-American!”

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/12/2025 02:09:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Edited: should read:

I say, keep it peaceful but definitely protest! Soon we may not be allowed to protest, and that is “UN-American!” UnAmerican.

The King is an Idiot. He is also a monster! Stand now or face the consequences of your in-action!

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/12/2025 05:39:00 PM, Blogger Jerôme said...

Stop saying bullshit benny hill

 
At 10/12/2025 08:17:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

Vance an especially brazen liar on ABC today. But he don't know only DJ gets away with that. Dj sparkles eyes not you.

 
At 10/13/2025 09:37:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

DIONYS, I am not sure if there is enough character left in America for many or all of your ideas. Change requires a diligence of character. Even asking Americans to downsize their vehicles is mostly hopeless. When necessity forces change, we know that character has vanished.

 
At 10/14/2025 02:21:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Listing all these ideas, I am still a realist. I know that Americans grew a habit of running gas-guzzlers and I agree that it will take necessity in a lot of these areas of everyday life because character has vanished. Still the lemming-like pursuit of the current manufactured version of the American dream will end with this or the next generation, simply because the promise of ever growing wealth being distributed can't be kept anymore. What's the use of a swimming pool if there is neither water nor money to pay for it?

 
At 10/15/2025 12:08:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

Homegrown outtake. One more sign

 
At 10/15/2025 12:53:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

The Restless Consumer

 
At 10/15/2025 01:43:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

What is the telos of the American Dream?

 
At 10/15/2025 03:33:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

At this point: consumo ergo sum?

 
At 10/15/2025 09:06:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

Consumption is analytically contained in "American Dream"

 
At 10/15/2025 10:16:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

No Kings. No Effect. How the F can Democrats be so feckless yet have so much valid ammo against your enemy . Don't you know holding the high ground against a dude w no shame don't work. Well it is the first time someone's gotten away with it by just not hiding it. How bad can it be I just said it out loud. Duh. Just hate the same ppl I do. Ex Democrat till Bannon found his vessel . Gives a V Neck new meaning. I thought it was under where.

 
At 10/16/2025 12:40:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

V-neck! Hahahaha!

 
At 10/16/2025 01:36:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Yeah, that's where the cat is chasing its own tail. Many Americans apparently tend to believe that keeping up a variably defined chimera of status quo regardless of the past and blind for the foreseeable future is all they are responsible for. Everything has to stay the way it never was. (The Gilded Age, the Eisenhower Era, The Horse, grocery prices).
Just had cataract surgery, can't be reading and writing as much as I want (and need ) to.

 
At 10/16/2025 10:13:00 AM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

I can totally understand why a German would be ashamed of the past. Lord knows any German should be ashamed of its history.

I'm an American. I'm ashamed of nothing about the past, present, or future. And why should I be? The United States is the leader in all things that matter, that's why when world leaders get together these days, you know who is the one calling the shots, while the European leaders sit back and nervously collect his dust. The other day, as a deal was made to get the Middle East closer to actual peace than I've ever seen in my lifetime, Trump gave a 26 second uncomfortable handshake with the simp who leads France, cut the UK prime minister off before he could start spewing out woke nonsense, and then hit on the beautiful leader of Italy. It was awesome to watch the awkwardness of the entire thing. Trump is the king of the jungle, toying with his prey. It's quite glorious to watch.

But hey, no kings protest in a few days. It won't make the boogeyman go away, but it will feel good to scream and shake your hands at the sky.

 
At 10/16/2025 12:20:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

The world according to Cruz. When Gordios presented his knot Alexander's empire had a few years left to exist. Go talk to Israelis and Palestinians or maybe better go and watch some more of this Fox News Lullabyes.

 
At 10/16/2025 03:17:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

🤡🧌

 
At 10/16/2025 04:37:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Do you talk to Jews, or does some other natural German instinct pop up when you come across one?

I'm just kidding around with you, comrade. You guys threw some nice parades back in the day.

 
At 10/16/2025 04:53:00 PM, Blogger the rider said...

Let's Impeach The President for lying. Neil Young lyrics circa a 2006

 
At 10/16/2025 05:14:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

A southern man don't need him around anyhow.

 
At 10/16/2025 10:56:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

@ Richie Rich:

I am only part Ashkenazi but I am 100% Anti Genocide, and 100% anti fascist. You think this is funny? The klansmen are having a chuckle tonight over those darn snap chats.

Bumbling serial bankrupter D Trump is causing major problems for our country. In 5 minutes he threw away alliances that were born from world wars for literally no gain, and no reason. He caused a major Canadian boycott of USA (everything USA!), which is hurting tourism.

WHO would want to visit the US when they could be hassled for stupid reasons at the border, detained, for weeks even, or months. This causes world tourism to sensibly avoid the US!


Trump is bad big and small businesses. The economy will crash. And then Trumps & his buddies will buy it all up for pennies on the dollar. He is trying to tank it, and doing a great job!

But the Idiot King forgot who brings in the Harvest? Or he didn’t even know? Or he doesn’t care? Of course he doesn’t care. He is a Sociopath and a Bully. He is a Fascist & an Evil Wannabe Dictator. You look like sick a prick.

@ Richie Cruz : you said they threw some great parties back in the day. Maybe that’s why we don’t agree. You are a sociopath perhaps & the rest of us were blessed with Hearts of Gold. But not you. Throw Your Hatred Down! It’s an Angry World in your head and the rest of us, we just Walk On…

to major protest this Saturday. #NoKings! Saturday Oct 18. Protests are everywhere! Get out and use your free speech while you can! Its out up or shut up time. “Get offa that couch, turn off that MTV!” We gotta stand up, take back our country!

The last No Kings protest was enormous. The largest ever in the history of the country. TV doesn’t show it. Chicken shit TV station CEO’s hit the bricks with their knee pads on to line up for Trump to stick it to em.
Those cowards will not be judged well by history. Neither will the Trump fans, especially those who support him knowing full well who is is and what he stands for, now in the light of day.

Your king is cruel AF and forgot he works for ALL Americans. Selfish prick…

You think “Ohio” is funny too? Why are you here again? Remind us. Oh, never mind. You already have.

@ Thrasher : I gotta say man, for you to question the value of holding a sign was disappointing. Are you a lobbyist or something? They got to you in the halls of government it seems. Too cynical to stand in protest? Or not aware of people’s lives in the cities? In some posts in the past you seem to have a biblical view of sorts. If there is a big shift…. If it involved ignoring Nazi moves by fascists unleashing a military force on our Homeland! The fuck the big shift, I say. Or put it on hold for after we force Democracy on the US and a return to a sane interpretation of the Constitution.

The whole world is now calling Gaza a Genocide by the IDF, the Israeli Army, and their WarCriminal Netanyahu.

Before the people protested, this would never have happened that world consensus agrees now it is War Crimes in Gaza.

Greta Thunberg brought love and food on boats and got arrested. The world began to notice.

Peaceful Protest works. Did you forget that? It’s like after Ohio now you want to Get Back To The Country.

But this moment is crucial. The citizens must stand, as many that have any guts or concern for your fellow humans.

ICE is throwing out workers. The US needs all of the workers being deported here doing the difficult underpaid jobs that Americans would never touch. Slaughterhouse, hospitality, food service, maids, and so many others.

We need health care for all, including our gourmets in the US, who work to make our lives better. Stop the assault on the good people within our borders! What would Jesus do indeed? Get off your asses and protest!

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/16/2025 10:57:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

That should read: “Then FUCK the Big Shift….”

 
At 10/16/2025 10:59:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

& “Trump IS bad for big and small business.”

 
At 10/16/2025 11:08:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

@ Thrasher : re-reading your reference to having Protested at all of these places. Sorry you felt it was time wasted. Now we have momentum and huge numbers rolling larger every day!

The point is not the sign, it’s the large numbers to overwhelm the lack of major news coverage. Wussies afraid they will lose their TV license.

But something bigger is happening: the awakening of the sleeping giant, finally! The American sleeping Giant is fucking pissed and rightly so.

Fascists will be judged harshly. Nazi bugs will be squished. Anti Fascism is blowing up with frogs, straight outta the Bible. Frogs gonna make ICE look so stupid, even more, evermore.

Join us or miss out on the greatest party. Jan 6 was an idiot’s Bully party. Ours has unicorns and sharks dancing in the streets. ICE arrested a band member playing an instrument after running into them chasing a person. Then ICE arrests the band member who did literally nothing… for assault of an ICE officer, total Fascist move. Fuck Fascism! Who’s Gonna Stand Up! Who’s Gonna Stand Up?!

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/16/2025 11:11:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Thrasher, we can bury the tomahawk and pass the peace pipe again soon, I think. I look forward to it, and would love to meet up with y’all on the green pastures of a NY show or Farm Aid next year!

God help us all! Sorry if I was blustery but now ain’t the time to let the air of lit of the tires! This Machine K___s Fascists” (sticker on Woody Guthrie’s guitar!

 
At 10/17/2025 05:07:00 AM, Blogger Ron said...

Best wishes from me in the UK to all attending this weekend's No Kings protests. Hope the protests get the coverage they deserve. Look after each other and stay safe.

 
At 10/17/2025 09:36:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Edited: Thrasher, we can bury the tomahawk and pass the peace pipe again soon, I think. I look forward to it, and would love to meet up with y’all on the green pastures of a NY show or Farm Aid next year!

God help us all! Sorry if I was blustery but now ain’t the time to let the air out of the tires! This Machine K___s Fascists” (sticker on Woody Guthrie’s guitar!

 
At 10/17/2025 09:42:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

“Good people, including our guests in the USA.”

 
At 10/17/2025 09:43:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks Alan. To clarify, in our direct experience, we've seen little gained from sign waving, marching. Protests like No Kings excel at visibility and unity but lack the direct economic pressure of boycotts.
Direct action, vote with your purchases and use cash.

 
At 10/17/2025 09:44:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Thanks Ron. We will be there!

 
At 10/17/2025 09:49:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

We never had the numbers in the past, but now we do. Lonely sign waving is less effective, but we have huge #’s even in Red Idaho. The time wasted was in the past. Time well spent is now at the protest. Please consider showing up and feeling the vibes of a real movement! It will cheer you up!

I have no criticism for effort made, cause abandoned. But I want to gently encourage you all to reconsider the effectiveness of protest tomorrow! The protests are everywhere. It’s easy to join up and it feels very good.

 
At 10/17/2025 09:53:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

Now your crosses are burning fast

 
At 10/17/2025 11:09:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

Don't forget what your good book said

 
At 10/17/2025 12:08:00 PM, Blogger Jonathan said...

😂
🤡
I can’t wait till Neil‘s music goes back on Amazon just like with Spotify lol
see how many more posts you can keep going on this thread, Alan I know you can do it
start a thread then answer yourself over and over again. Those are the best.

 
At 10/17/2025 07:01:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

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At 10/17/2025 08:32:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Right on Alan! I agree 100% about everything you said in ALL OF THE ABOVE. Richie Rich is clueless. There’s a reason fer the well earned “Tricky DICK” nickname.
I was also dismayed @ Thrasher’s post(s).
Maybe Thrasher just misses the point?
For me, the point is, ALL THE NEWS IS BAD AND GETS WORSE DAILY. Protesting, Rallying, “Sign Waving” is a form of therapy. To be around like minded, SANE people who “get it” is like Kryptonite against the lies of the regime. The world is watching. Waiting. Wondering. When are Americans gonna wake the Fuck up?
I am tired of all this bullshit. If you aren’t then YOU are the problem.
Get off your ass and “wave a sign”.
It’s the VERY LEAST you can do to preserve the rights your forefathers fathers fought and died for. Your children also deserve better.
Please, everyone be safe.
And mindfully aware.

 
At 10/17/2025 09:41:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

36 yrs ago? Felt like yesterday. Don’t blink.

 
At 10/18/2025 05:55:00 AM, Blogger Ron said...

Thrasher is right about the power of what we purchase or don't purchase. It can have a big impact.

I do think protests and marches can have an impact as well though.

Let's do both!

 
At 10/18/2025 09:45:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks Ron.

Recently, we attended David Byrne's Who Is the Sky? tour.

Between songs, Byrne alluded to current geopolitical affairs in a semi vague way that everyone knew what he was insinuating.

He then mentioned protests. The most powerful form of protest is love.

“Love is the new punk rock”, he said.

"Love and kindness are the most punk thing you can do right now."

love,
thrasher

 
At 10/18/2025 11:12:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Trump is not just a mean fascist idiot. He is also deranged & demented. It’s feels so good to get out & protest this authoritarian crackdown with millions of people who feel exactly the same about it. Over 5 million will protest today & the movement is growing quickly.

Mean pricks voted for Trump. Today we revel in the loving arms of the No Kings movement. To Hell with Trump! We all know he is headed there.

The Frog Brigade cannot be stopped. Freedoms is on our side. Liberty is on our side. These are not just words. We will disco dance our way through this Revolution of LOVE. It’s a Big Shift, I tell you!

A question for the Trumpers: why are you deporting all of the farm labor? Not worried about bringing in the harvest? Don’t you like to eat food several times a day?

Today is the ginormous #NoKings rally in your state or city, nationwide, worldwide. Join the party or sit on the couch and be part of the problem.

There’s a Rainbow of Color throughout the land. Be a part of the rainbow or miss out on the best party since 1776!

Be the Rain. Be the Rain!

Thank you for your service.

Have a splendid, wonderful day! Thank you for noticing my many posts and edits. I am having so much fun right now it’s hard to type straight in this little keypad.

This message will be later expounded upon. I pay rent but if you give me free rent I will stay imbedded in here forever!


Why are we here again?! Oh ya, Neil Young! We love Neil Young! I really do love my new T-shirt from the Bowl show: “Take America Back” with a bullhorn. Love, Love, Love it.

Be the Rain! Be the Rain!

You’re still my Brother, Brother. Your Brother Alan in Seattle



 
At 10/18/2025 11:26:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

I thrifted a killer No Kings T-shirt and it is glorious. I will be sending Thrasher photos of the activities from today. His heart will stir. He is one of us, he just got tired of holding a sign all those lonely years of protest.

Protests are for the young, and the angry, and for those of us whose youthful spirit may reveal we never really grew up, to accept the norms expected from society. Nothing looks better than millions of non-conformists in legions with their multi colored costumes. It’s the Pink Pony Club mingling with the countless allies who are marching to the beat of a different peace drum: We will survive, and we will thrive.

Old king Trump is going away with the coal and the fossil fuels. He is so washed up. One last attempt to crush Democracy from the old fool. He would need to kill all of us to stop this party. Because we will lay down our lives and even die for freedom.

Brother, Brother, there’s too many of you dying. Mother mother mother, there’s too many of you crying. But…

There’s something happening here. What it is anin’t exactly clear. There’s a man with a gun over there, he’s got red white and blue underwear.

Be the Rain. Be the Rain!

Always gonna be your Brother Alan in Seattle, little brother.

 
At 10/18/2025 11:27:00 AM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks Dan. Fearless.

See our comment below.

 
At 10/18/2025 11:28:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

New edit to help my friends:

“There’s something happening here. What it is ain’t exactly clear. There’s a man with a gun over there, he’s got red white and blue underwear…

 
At 10/18/2025 12:03:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

@ Thrasher & @ Ron:

Yes! Our buying power is hugely influential. And there have been significant boycotts happening. Tesla. Target. Amazon.

Look what Protest did to the Cybertruck! Nobody will buy any anymore! It’s a brave new world.

There are new methods and means, all peaceful of course. I’ve quit buying MaGA hats for instance. Ha ha ha!

But seriously, money is the currency of our time. We spend how we must, and how we can. To Hell with Chick fil A, even tho it’s so tasty. To Hell with Home Depot!

I can feel another edit / added post coming.

Aks not what your country can do for you but what part of your Fascist Government needs to be hit with an axe. A Rubber Axe, but an axe. I aks you this question.

Tu Hermano Alanito de Seattle

 
At 10/18/2025 12:13:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Glorious #NoKings day 10/18/25. This day will be studied in the history books. This freedom fighting can really give one a wonderful feeling! Share in community with your many millions of fellow protesters. Take part.
This is how we beat the Nazis. We beat them before, we’ll beat them again. “Down with the Fascists!” Who is it that won’t say that? “Un-Americans” is who. Fucking Nazis. Fuck you! We will fight you to the death!

Our principles are more important than our own lives.

Cheerio then, until the next random thought or correction edit pops into my excited & upbeat countenance today. Oh glorious day, the day we stick it to the Fascists. Nazis fuck off!

Your Big Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/18/2025 12:46:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Thrasher is absolutely right. You really want to change things? Do it with your wallet, do it with your vote. Protesting might make you feel good, but unless it's a majority, it doesn't really accomplish anything. And the anti-Trump crowd ISN'T the majority at this point, not even close. Shop locally, go to farmer's markets instead of big chains, quit Amazon, go off the grid, stop living your life over the phone, reconnect with God, family, and the most important friends. Understand that there are more important things than politics and government.

 
At 10/18/2025 01:24:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Sure, right after we push out the Fascists.

 
At 10/18/2025 01:42:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Just because we are not covered by News inc stations does not mean we are not the majority. We ARE the majority. Watch some world news tonight.

Elon’s Big Balls & buds may have hacked some swing state voting machines which had results flagged as election fraud by the % in exit polls. He barely won. The Democrats did there best to help him win with old brain damaged old Joe Biden.

In 2015, Hillary couldn’t fill a school cafeteria, Bernie had 100,000 in the steeets, not shown on your TV news.

The Dems handed her the nomination over the very popular Bernie Sanders, and therefore they elected Trump. The Democrats caused Trump.

In peaceful protest by the millions, we will participate in Government. And millions in the streets will steer government.

And after we flush the DC swamp toilet down the drain, then we politely ask for Health Care for all, a minimum wage for immigrant labor, health care coverage for immigrant labor, support and safe hostels to aid and assist the amazing farm workers and other workers who bring our food to the table! Thank you Jesus! And Ramón & all the hard workers, who will do work that lazy white people would never do, even for higher wages.

Support the immigrants. They are the people who make this economy happen, tho they are being exploited for very low wages and bad treatment.

Wake up dummies. We need ALL the workers for our economy to function. Restaurant workers, skilled construction workers, food workers, field workers, etc etc.

Immigrants pay more taxes than the citizens because they must spend most of what they make to survive. So sales tax ensures they pay plenty of tax, more by % than citizens.

It’s just mean and stupid to terrorize immigrants, even separating kids from their parents. Zip tied in the night, dragged from their warm beds.

This is not us! This is not who we are as Americans. That is why today’s protests will be incredibly large. Be sure to read / watch some world news about today’s turnout.

I wish you a wonderful #NoKings day!

Peace. YBAiS

 
At 10/18/2025 01:43:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Aw shucks. Another edit.

“Elon’s Big Balls & buds may have hacked some swing state voting machines which had results flagged as election fraud by the % in exit polls. He barely won. The Democrats did their best to help him win with old brain damaged old Joe Biden.”

 
At 10/18/2025 01:58:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Are you gonna have time to actually go to the protest, because you've made about 20 posts here today.

Come to think of it, maybe you're actually not going to any protest today. Maybe you're just full of shit. Inquiring minds want to know....

 
At 10/18/2025 04:05:00 PM, Blogger willforestwater said...

Made my breakfast today from plants I grew in my backyard garden. Next went to the farmers market, where I bought carrots, spinach and shiitake mushrooms. And then to a spontaneous NO Kings protest, a tiny hyperlocal gathering here in my Seattle Greenlake area at a main intersection. There are similar spots all over Seattle: Phiney Ridge, I-5 interstate overpasses, other neighborhoods.

So, yes, we vote with our dollars in here in America, and growing your own is best. But your a fool if you think protests do nothing, and a tool of the orange one's propaganda that wants you to give up before you start!

Get off the grid as much as you can. But SHOUT the truth out as loud as you can too. Both DO make a difference.

 
At 10/18/2025 05:18:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

@ willforestwater - thanks for this and we applaud & support your efforts.

Literally, if half population did what you do, we wouldn't be in this situation.

And to re-clarify again to the point of redundancy...

Every day on this blog, we wave out little signs. It will be 30 years next year, in fact. Mainly our little sign waving is about Neil's music. But sometimes we're fearless in our truth and our little signs.

So, yes, waving signs and direct action do make a difference, no mistake, no misunderstanding.

[insert] practicing radical protest action by waving our peace & love sign [/insert]

thrasher

 
At 10/18/2025 05:39:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Well, I just got back from downtown Santa Cruz, where I had no choice but to be thrust right into the protest. There were a LOT of people there, although the Cruz is as blue as it gets, so not surprised about the crowd size. Everyone seemed to be having a good time, and in case you're wondering, yes, a lot car horns are working just fine. I saw a lot of 86/47 signs, yet another example of how peaceful and tolerant that side is, you know calling for violent murder is ok when it's the good guys doing it, right?

Two other observations, first, considering Santa Cruz is a college town, I didn't see a lot of young people there, or hardly anyone of brown or black color. Just a WHOLE LOT of old white liberals.

2nd, and most important, lots of people had their dogs on leashes with them. Is a loud, crowded protest really the best place to take your dog? People yelling, horns blasting....I'm sure most of those doggies would rather have been home, or maybe on a quiet walk with their owners instead of being stuck in that chaos.

Anyways, that's my report from Santa Cruz. Have a nice day, kids. And remember, when you wake up tomorrow, Donald J Trump will still be the President. Have fun with that!

 
At 10/18/2025 06:01:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

@ Richie Rich
86 means cancel. Waitresses have used it long before it meant WHATEVER It Means to YOU. As in 86 hash browns, rye toast, pancakes, etc.
Never heard of waitresses “Violently Murdering” a breakfast order.
Ironic how you are named after a blue demographic.
Always amazes me how people like you, so cluelessly just happen to “wander aimlessly” into an area that is hosting a protest.
🙄

 
At 10/18/2025 06:10:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks for the report Richie. It takes big balls (*for you*) to cross the line. And to come here and get bashed every day, practically.

btw, has any Neil fan ever gone to a Trump rally to bring us a report?
peace
ps - folks, we're trying to navigate a very thin line here on TW during these Shifting Times....
pss - which reminds us that everyone needs to keep in mind the TW Comment Policy. This *SHOULD* appear before publishing any comment.

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Thank you for your participation, cooperation, and keep on rockin'!"

if more curious, see
http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2007/10/comments-policy-at-thrashers-wheat.html

 
At 10/18/2025 07:56:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Well, genius, if you must know, I used to blindly vote blue, most of my life actually. But as many of the red-pilled (and there are MILLIONS of us) have said, I didn't change, the Democrats did. Heck, even our current Fuehrer in charge used to vote blue. He woke, I woke up, many others have woken up, and someday I hope you wake up.

As far as me being near the protest, I had business to do in downtown Santa Cruz, so that's why I was there. You see, some of us work for a living, kind of like the paid protesters who make up a good share of the crowds that you see at these things.

Keep trying, Sherlock.

 
At 10/18/2025 08:09:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Thanks Thrasher, but truthfully it was kind of accidental in me being there, though I was curious to check it out. I'm happy I did, honestly.

And btw, your site and work here is admirable. I'm sorry if I cause any headaches for you when I get into battles here. Honestly, I don't mind the hate directed at Trump, but I'm always bothered at hate aimed at folks who choose to think for themselves, and not just follow the mainstream herd. You've created a great site to honor an artist who was well known for not following the herd, but unfortunately I feel both him and most of his fans have changed for the worse over the last decade. I really appreciate the fact that even though you may not agree with me on some stuff (or maybe you do), you do allow me to speak my peace.

As far as battles I have here, I simply can't not respond to certain attacks. If they push, sometimes I must push back. That attitude is why Neil's music has touched me for over 40 years. He has never been a back down kind of guy, and neither am I.

 
At 10/18/2025 08:24:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Richie Rich. The Martyr.
Just like George Santos.

 
At 10/18/2025 08:42:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Better a martyr than a fool.

 
At 10/18/2025 09:51:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Yes I did. It was amazing.

 
At 10/19/2025 01:48:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

Tin soldiers

 
At 10/19/2025 10:31:00 AM, Blogger herbsworld said...

If you are still a MAGA T Rump supporter you are both.
Obvious to all.
Oblivious to you.

 
At 10/19/2025 10:46:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

You've got the weight on your shoulders that's breaking your back

 
At 10/19/2025 01:25:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

I get the disillusionment with the Democratic Party. It doesn't follow, though, that one would then decide to embrace a party that seems consumed with grievances and a desire to be cruel. I have yet to see a positive case made from @Richie or other "red-pilled" person on tangible benefits that this party under this administration is providing. More jobs? Nope. Lower prices? Nope. Free speech? Hardly. More housing? Where? A cleaner environment? Puhleeze. Stronger public health? Lol. Lower violent crime? Was already at historic lows. Lower white -collar crime? Au contraire . Lower taxes? Short-term maybe, but at enormous long-term cost and disproportionately at the highest income levels anyway. Protection of the Constitution? Hard no. Higher stock market? True, but seems more likely despite than because of administration policies. Moreover, hard to pay the rent/mortgage/tuition/groceries with. Safer global security environment? Happy there's a ceasefire now in Gaza. We'll see if it holds given the lack of details.

So, please enlighten us, oh wise red-pilled one. What are we missing? Shouldn't you want to spread the gospel of how this all turns out to Make America Great Again so that we stop wasting our time trying to stop this most beneficent government.

 
At 10/19/2025 01:45:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Even better than a boycott at the time, Tesla’s fall was a huge smack down of unprecedented & historic significance. Hubris and Fascist tendencies ended badly after Elon did his Hitler salute twice onstage. This is nature. We don’t play that Fascist shit in the US!

The people who protest have been careful with where they spend their $, & Target tanked as a result of caving to white wing, Right Wing pressure. It IS happening. There have been organized boycotts and there will be more. Anyone trying to shred our beloved US Constitution is fair game.

The millions upon millions of people involved in the protests are quite thoughtful. They are determined & have even given up Chick Fil A! That’s a tough one to kick! I can tell you from personal experience maybe someday. 😁

It is all happening. And this is a Big Shift. God knows we need one here in the US to fight for Democracy & Human Rights! And our prayers are answered by good citizens standing up in participation & support for #NoKings !

The tide is turning. The mean fascist bastards will be stopped by the rule of law, for violating the constitution. Or from millions upon millions protesting in a general strike. That may be the next thing to happen. We are all pro capitalist but we also believe in freedom from fascism. We believe in sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, providing mental health support and services. Research has proven It’s cheaper to do all of that than use Emergency services, such as police, Paramedics, EMT’s, ER’s, jails & prisons. Offer help with drug treatment, act like a “Christian” if they’re gonna claim it. They insist a baby be born, but never want to help raise the poor child after it is born! This is preposterous! Ridiculous! Hypocritical double standard. It seems they are running low on uneducated white people to vote for them.

Your brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/19/2025 01:48:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Ya!

 
At 10/19/2025 01:54:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

Santa Cruz is liberal
Horns still work
Old white folks
Dogs
Trump still my president
Wow this Maga voting troll is full of brilliant insight today. I hope you at least stopped in on Rick at Las Palmas for some good food 🥑🌯🌮🍺. But hey a truly despicable guy in George Santos is free.

 
At 10/19/2025 02:14:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

Lol, black and brown people don't show up to a demonstration against an administration that is violently targeting and harassing them. Can't imagine why they'd stay away? They must actually support the administration.

 
At 10/19/2025 02:43:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

We don’t have a choice, We must! Thank you.

 
At 10/19/2025 03:03:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Thank an immigrant for the food on your table tonight.

I don’t agree with you, if you support a fascist like Trump. If you think it’s funny to joke about Genocide, you are probably a sociopath.

When the victim becomes the abuser, that’s where we draw the line.

It is kind of odd that all those Trump supporters are pissed about the Epstein files when Thor hero had already been revealed for who he really is. And he is racist, hostile, stupid, belligerent, foolish. This a man who doesn’t read books and is too bored to study world history. He was a con man criminal for a long time and everyone knew it. He declared bankruptcy umpteen times. He is a moronz

But if Putin whispered in his ear a plan of action which could bring on the ruin of the United States “Empire” Trump has been a star cadet in this mission.

Trump raised the national debt ceiling by $5 Trillion dollars. How is that “conservative” again?

He and the rest of these politicians are giving the nation a debt burden too high to bear. At the same time, he unplugs two crucial weather satellites already in orbit, wars against science and global warming, rigs the game for d
Fossil fuel buddies of his. Meanwhile, the US is no longer able to compete as well in the new green energy economy.

China has become the world leader in Green energy & robotics. Trump has give the US companies a ball & chain.

This is bad for business in the US! So many lost jobs! All so we can keep the smoke in the air? All of Trump’s efforts just so he can doom the planet to extinction of the human race by Global Warming? This is beyond stupid and selfish. He is a monster. He is a planet wrecking kind of monster.

Biden was a senile old fool with handlers. The Democrats better come up with some bigger ideas like Health Care For All or we will stop believing in them again.

But the millions in the streets are not giving up so easily. You cynics will see the light eventually.

Trump wants to take health care away from thousands who depend on it. He is a bad guy.
If you like him, you could be a bad guy too! Go read the Bible and wake up. New Testament.

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/19/2025 03:11:00 PM, Blogger Alan said...

Nobody can afford to live in Santa Cruz without a lot of money. Old hippies, that’s correct.

 
At 10/19/2025 06:52:00 PM, Blogger the rider said...

Let's Impeach the president for lying and using our religion to get elected. Neil Young lyrics 2006

 
At 10/19/2025 08:08:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

86 means two things both not threatening. Let's not say cancel. In restaurants it means some item needed for the menu in no longer in stock. You know the common business sign, we reserve the right to refuse service .... A customer is 86d is no longer welcome. Trespassed is legally not to return. Now 86 can last a month, years, or forever. It just depends on the seriousness of the offense + how much they like you.

 
At 10/20/2025 11:43:00 AM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Are you just jealous because I can speak in complete sentences? I must really get your goat though, because you haven't deleted your own stupidity yet, like you normally do here.

 
At 10/20/2025 11:49:00 AM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

You haven't deleted yet? Normally, you "86" your own thoughts here. Maybe you haven't sobered up yet, must have been a busy weekend, Grandpa.

 
At 10/20/2025 11:53:00 AM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Day 2 after the big protest, and yes, we haven't got a King in America. Good job, folks.

We do still have a President, though. Have a nice day.

 
At 10/20/2025 08:13:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Richie Rich (IQ 86)
Yes, we haven’t?
Did you graduate from the Trump University before he bankrupted that institution of lower learning?

 
At 10/20/2025 08:55:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Look out, the grammar police have shown up.

You got me on the ropes, Champ, keep swinging!

 
At 10/21/2025 07:20:00 AM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Better than wasting a call to the “Thought Police” on the likes of you.

 
At 10/21/2025 11:57:00 AM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

I am currently enjoying the challenge. I have never felt as intense as now, in the struggle to educate. It is a very hard challenge, which is one reason why it is so damn interesting. What I consistently see in the human condition, in my own microcosm, is the tide of conformity. What a battle to create an identity in which one achieves something like a complete agency in the world. I think this might be why I was initially attracted to Neil Young as an adolescent. He resisted conformity and for actual reasons (he was not chaotically swinging for attention). Learning how to think is dangerous and often perceived as anti-social. But we persist.

 
At 10/21/2025 12:46:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

We are familiar with the ability to troll. It is on constant display. Less apparent is any ability to deliver actual policy that benefits the people. I have not seen it. It's been fantasized about, with some expectation that tariffs will encourage a reindustrialization that alleviates all the (often legitimate) grievances voiced by many. But, will it? Seems very questionable. Meanwhile, I guess the strategy is that we should enjoy the cruelty circus. Haven't heard much else animating the GOP other than that.

 
At 10/21/2025 01:30:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Thanks again to everyone participating here.

As we've offered before, beers on us at next Neil concert.

Looks like maybe next year's Gulf of Mexico Coastal tour will be im Muscle Shoals, Alabama. TW is buying everyone a round.

 
At 10/21/2025 02:41:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

Reminds me of the owl and seagull. Owl " I'm a mysterious predator of the night . You steal hot dogs from children " . Seagull thought bubble " he knows of me ! " . You really know how to make a gray head , blended food eater blush . ☺️ .

Trump
“He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring. He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law". If this is TDS, ok. I have bad TDS. Quote by Karl Rove. Oh and he had sex w girls. Let's not forget that. In 5 years ppl like you will deny you supported him. But I want you to see the disgrace. If you live long enough you will. You also have a nice day.

 
At 10/21/2025 04:12:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Best part about TDS? Old tired hippies quoting Karl Rove. I bet you like Liz Cheney too.

In bed with the Cheney's and Karl Rove. And if I remember right, you were calling for Thrasher to ban me from here.

Quoting Karl Rove and calling for censorship. Hippie Dream, indeed...

 
At 10/21/2025 04:14:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Over 100 responses on this thread! And barely a mention of Neil Young.

I like to think if Thrasher was gonna give out gold stars for this thread, he'd give one to me, for keeping the flow.

 
At 10/21/2025 08:20:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

And yet not one post in which you articulate a positive outcome that has improved the lives of people that is the direct result of actions by this administration. 🥇for trolling.

For NY reference, try this on for size (Ode to a Troll): "You're all just pissing in the wind. You don't know it, but you are. And there ain't like a friend, who can tell you, your just pissing in the wind."

 
At 10/21/2025 08:42:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

Well, there's a southern border that's more secure than it has been since After the Goldrush was released. There's a hopefully secure peace deal in the Middle East. There's the lowest gas prices since Trump's first term
There's an economy that is in much better shape than it was 2 years ago. There's declining inflation. There's food companies who are starting to eliminate the garbage that is in our food that is killing us. There have been close to a half million gangbangers, rapists, human traffickers, and pedophiles arrested and kicked out of the country. There's been a handful of drug trafficking ships that have been blown to kingdom come.

I could go on, but I'm tired of typing.

 
At 10/21/2025 09:09:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

T Rump is literally dismantling the white house. Federal workers are now his pawns. Missing paychecks and standing on food pantry lines. This is beyond disgusting. Other Federal workers are being forced to work with no guarantee of a paycheck. T Rump is sending 40 BILLION U.S. Taxpayers dollars to Argentina. While American Farm families struggle. Claims he’s ended 8 wars when, in reality, he’s perpetuating 2 major conflicts and is courting disaster in Venezuela. And poking the bear in China. The shutdown has no end in sight. Republicants are staying home. All so the Epstein files remain sealed. T Rump gets a covid booster as RFK jr condemns vaccines, to the point of measles making a comeback. Due to a lack of “Herd Immunity”. Do as I say, Not As I Do?
Vance & Hesgeth are launching bombs across an interstate highway WHILE AMERICANS ARE DRIVING? WTF?
And there is SO MUCH MORE.
How can anyone be ok with any single one of the above?
Richie Rich? Please, dude.
You cannot possibly defend this insanity. Or can you?

 
At 10/21/2025 09:23:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Peace in the middle east? Yeah, right. Border is locked down and there are no migrant farm laborers or construction laborers. Half a million of the worst of the worst? Or the workers doing the worst of the worst work? So those prices are up. So are gas prices. Declining inflation? Where? Drug trafficking boats or fishermen?
You already drank that red koolaid. The red dye has already
adversely affected your common sense. SMH

 
At 10/22/2025 10:38:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

This website has mostly turned into a place where people are forced to react to one guy's mean posts that support an administration that is full of pedophiles, murderers. kidnappers and racists. If it wasn't for this one poster we could spend more time talking about Neil Young and his music. Isn't that what this site was made for?

 
At 10/22/2025 01:44:00 PM, Blogger wsanjose01 said...

I don't want you banned and never asked for it.

 
At 10/22/2025 03:24:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

What do you expect from a website based in a country where people nurture the illusion that as long there is "freedom of speech" they can defend their democracy, while at the same time the enemy within against whom they want to defend their country is using exactly that freedom to "flood the zone with shit" , lately to the music of Kenny Loggins. One doesn't need to be a media theory buff to know that shit sticks to the wall after it hit the fan (site). It's a true dilemma: you can't leave these comments unanswered if you want to limit their impact. But then you are likely to be led around in the circus arena by the nose ring. Maybe shut down the circus?
Recommended reading: Paul A. Watzlawick, Human Communication.

 
At 10/22/2025 04:38:00 PM, Blogger thraserswheat said...

Thanks Dionys. As a long time, valued reader and commenter we appreciate your input.

Shut down the circus.

Yeah, there are days when we do get that feeling. But we see that as ceding victory to the mob. And we are still planning TW’S big 30th anniversary celebration next year.

In all seriousness, what is the solution? Obviously, more user control of comments with a different system might help. But we lose all comments history. In addition, the technical challenges of implementing are prohibitively time consuming.

Suggestions?

 
At 10/22/2025 04:40:00 PM, Blogger thrasher said...

Test

 
At 10/23/2025 01:28:00 PM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

Democracy is rife with internal contradictions as Dionys has pointed out. Free speech used to attack free speech. The various processes of democratic government used to arrive at undemocratic policies.

 
At 10/23/2025 06:45:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

MAKE ARGENTINA GREAT AGAIN!

 
At 10/24/2025 12:27:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Separating the wheat from the chaff. Nobody's right to free speech is denied, if there are stricter limits with regards to Neil content and off-topic comment. It's a Neil Young related website after all. The right to free speech does not include that everybody can say everything all the time in all places. That's just a naive assumption. The old rust list had a "pledge of peace and rust". Maybe marking items or topics as being under the limitations of civilized discourse would help. Anything stepping outside should be deleted then.
I know very well that I would have to discipline myself, too. But TW is worth the effort.

 
At 10/24/2025 06:23:00 AM, Blogger Ron said...

Personally I'd support a 'No Name Calling, No Insults' policy.

I used to think a strict Neil Young topics only policy would be appropriate, as I saw this site as one of my escapes from all the bad things going on in the world. But now I think what is happening around us is too important to ignore and the scope of content on NYA Times Contrarian and the subject matter of some of Neil's recent songs shows he isn't ignoring it either.

@Thrasher - glad you got to see David Byrne - he's long been one of my favourites. Don't suppose he played 'Don't Worry About The Government' from the first Talking Heads album? :-)

Managed to catch Suzanne Vega this week and she was on fine form. She dedicated Speakers Corner from her latest album to the 1st Amendment. Some very appropriate lyrics I think:

'...All those full of wind and air
Who howl and rant and rave
Screaming out distorted facts
About the souls they save
Promising the miracles
And pocketing the cash
Pretending they have principles
Preaching only ash...'

'...The speakers' corner, there it stands
In politics and song
I guess we better use it now
Before we find it gone'

 
At 10/24/2025 11:02:00 AM, Blogger Abner Snopes said...

Great lyrics. I am going to find the song, thanks Thrasher. I would strongly support a strict no insult policy which would be grounded in a strict no disrespect policy. I will admit that I have violated these norms in the heat of the moment or after being really agitated by a comment. Discipline is a necessary condition for freedom.

 
At 10/24/2025 12:05:00 PM, Blogger Hayo said...

When I saw this post had 120 comments I knew Richie Cruz was involved.

 
At 10/24/2025 02:05:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

The original post mentioned that Neil Young intends to pull the plug on the south american river company. His announcement now is followed with a more detailed statement on NYA as to why he wants to end his business relationship with the retail kraken.

 
At 10/24/2025 02:15:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

Aside from her earlier hits (Tom's Diner, Luka, Marlene on the Wall) Suzanne Vega when playing her third European concert in München two weeks ago received the loudest audience response for her introduction to "Speakers' Corner", and for the song itself, which happens to open her album "Flying with Angels". Travelling with a multi-instrumentalist-guitarist and a cellist only the stage action was kind of reduced, her voice was in perfect shape. I am undecided as to whether I like this live concert format. A full band with rhythm section maybe would distract from the etherical sounds. But guitar loops and drum tracks to me make for a rather sterile live atmosphere.

 
At 10/24/2025 06:52:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Guitar loops and drum tracks? Sounds like the makings of Rush 50 w/o Neil Pert…
Sorry, I know this is a NY site.
Please don’t delete me. It’s music related 😎
Just like all this politics crap.
If it’s relevant to the man himself…
U gotta ask yerself “What would Neil do”. That should be the only consideration fer moderation, in my not so humble opinion.
There’s enough censoring going on these days, no?

 
At 10/24/2025 07:38:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Wow. Just to get back to the origins of this thread. Just read Neil’s reasoning fer pulling the plug on Amazon. Reminded me of the bootlegs in the record store short film.
I’ve bought my fair share of Neil ware on Amazon. That ended with my last purchase, the Coastal soundtrack before it was avilable @ Greedy Hand. And yes, it is the record that Neil pulled.
Fuk Amazon. Fuk Bezos.

 
At 10/25/2025 03:27:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Every once in a while in his LTTE section Neil Young takes on one of these hate mailers (who invariously claim that they are soooo disappointed about his recently changed political views as expressed in songs since 1970). That is to say: every once in a while, - and also answering the question: "What would Neil do?"- . I assume he and the NYA team must be receiving communication of that type on a daily basis. It would be interesting to know how many negative reactions they receive just on this south american river cancellation. I do not need to know all the bullshit that will be raining down on them. And I have no use for the millionth re-iteration of MAGA propaganda, so I am very grateful that at NYA they responsibly are filtering what they receive. And I do not feel "censored" if my LTTE contributions are not published, I rather assume it was of little or no interest to them or did not fit in somehow, that's perfectly ok with me. Of course that's different with TW, because moderation would be too much of a work load. But claiming merely to be the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" all the time does not solve the obvious broom problem. Having your open and free media cannibalized calls for showing and using your teeth and claws, not for a discussion with the cannibal about the disadvantages of cannibalism.

 
At 10/25/2025 09:12:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

No Kings is having a huge effect. We had 2 million more with us, 7 million! Next time it will be 9 million. And the boycotts are starting. We will prevail and push out the king.

 
At 10/25/2025 09:13:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Everything is changing even as Trump demolishes the East wing of the White House. You will eat your words. This growing movement will prevail and erase Trump’s stain on our country.

 
At 10/25/2025 09:36:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

No insult policy? How about “#NoKings” instead? Until the next time we say goodbye, I will be punching Nazis.

Gonna tear down the gold balls room right after it gets built. Some things are worth dying for. Give a shit. Feed the hungry. Shelter the homeless. Pat the immigrant worker on the back and say “Thank you Jesus & Ramón, for bringing our food to the table. Sorry diaper Don was so angry & inconsiderate. Please stay! We need you and all the workers. In fact, you now earn minimum wage of $20 & health care for ALL as well.

Free speech is so cool!

Your Brother Alan in Seattle

 
At 10/25/2025 09:44:00 AM, Blogger Alan said...

Oh ya, & Fuck the Nazis!

 
At 10/25/2025 10:06:00 AM, Blogger the rider said...

There's a rainbow of colors ain't no one gonna white wash those colors away

 
At 10/25/2025 02:10:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

Just do it the American way, and if you succeed there is one happy guy eating his words, and with the utmost delight, afterwards I'll stand in line for congratulations.

 
At 10/25/2025 04:28:00 PM, Blogger Richie Cruz said...

So let me get this straight, you don't like America? It's that whole free speech thing? Or is it just because we handed you your lunch in 2 World Wars?

I guess I could spend a lot of time criticizing German politics and its people, but I just don't care. Who knows why it can't be reciprocal....

 
At 10/25/2025 06:07:00 PM, Blogger Dionys said...

No, you can't because you are absolutely clueless with regards to German or even European politics, as becomes clear by a number of comments you have been dishing out lately. And believe it or not: I love America and my American friends and I care. And again, believe it or not: That's the exact reason why criticizing is necessary, absolutely.
I was born 1965, I do not subscribe to nationalist ideology, I do not have any problem of my country having been "handed your lunch in 2 World Wars". Our American relatives in Chicago helped my family to survive after 1945, a fair number of them emigrated to the US, you can look them up in the Californian phone books and you'll find their names on the Vietnam memorial in Washington DC. Apparently your limited historical knowledge and your assumptions about other countries make you think that a German after 1918 and 1945 must be nurturing revanchist feelings. There have been hundred thousands of American soldiers in my country since then. Maybe ask them about the Germans they met. Beyond that, feel free to make a fool of yourself.

 
At 10/25/2025 06:55:00 PM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Cry baby T Rump announced he’s raising tariffs on Canada. Again. And not meeting with the PM. Again.
Why, you may ask this time?
It seems he takes issue with Ontario running a commercial during the World Series (from Tornto, it’s the Blue Jays vs LA Dodgers).
It was Ronald Regan giving one of his famously folksy, Saturday morning radio broadcasts. In this one he denounces Tariffs as crippling the world economy.
T Rump fancies himself a Regan republican. Far from it.
Oh and right after that hit the news Steve Bannon is interviewed saying get used to Trump 2028. Even though a third term is unconstitutional.
Just like everything else T Rump does. Dicktater.

 
At 10/25/2025 08:47:00 PM, Blogger Knowledge Nomad said...

Lieber Dionys, was kann man dazu sagen? Der Kerl ist ja nicht zu retten. Du hast natürlich vollkommen recht -- kritik ist patriotisch und notwendig in einer Demokratie. Das ist ja die Botschaft von Neil Young in mehreren Lieder seit über 60 Jahren. Als ein Amerikaner mit judischen Hintergrund, der auch fast ein Jahrzent in Deutschland gewohnt habe, weiss ich, die Vergangenheitsbewältigung, die die Nachkriegsgenerationen in Deutschland geprägt hat, sehr zu schätzen. Davon könnten wir in Amerika viel lernen.

 
At 10/26/2025 03:37:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Lieber Knowledge Nomad, vielen Dank für deine Reaktion. Sie ist bedeutsam für mich, weil sie bestätigt, was ich natürlich weiß: die allermeisten Amerikaner sind nicht wie dieser Mensch, der hier sein aufgeblasenes Ego inszeniert. Wie ich in meinen Beiträgen versuche deutlich zu machen, ist es allerdings ein schwieriges Problem derartigen Demagogen die Plattform zu nehmen. Das hat mit Meinungs- und Redefreiheit nicht viel zu tun, sondern mit gesundem Menschenverstand. Nach einer Weile muss in jedem Haushalt der Müll entsorgt werden oder man lebt auf einer Müllkippe.
Die persönlichen Angriffe, z.B. gegen mich, sind solcher Müll.

Translation:
Dear Knowledge Nomad, thank you for your reaction. It is meaningful to me because it is affirming what I do know anyway: most Americans are not like this person, who is just staging his own inflated ego. As I am trying to get across with my comments it is a difficult problem to take away the platform for demagogues of this kind. It's not about freedom of speech or opinion, but common sense. After some time every household has to get rid of the garbage or one ends up on a dumpsite.
These personal attacks, on me for example, are such garbage.

 
At 10/26/2025 09:04:00 AM, Blogger herbsworld said...

I had to use Apple translate on Nomad’s comment:
“Dear Dionys, what can I say about this? The guy can't be saved. Of course, you are absolutely right -- criticism is patriotic and necessary in a democracy. This is the message of Neil Young in several songs for over 60 years. As an American with a Jewish background, who has also lived in Germany for almost a decade, I know that the coping with the past that has shaped the post-war generations in Germany is very much appreciated. We could learn a lot from this in America.”
(I couldn’t agree more wholeheartedly in any tongue.)
When we censor each other we cease to learn from each other.
Yes, there is even something to learn from Richie Rich. He is parroting what one of the most dangerous men & his Administration are transmitting to the world.
History is the greatest teacher of the past.
Defenders of ignorance are alive & well in America. Sadly.

 
At 10/26/2025 10:11:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Of course I agree with you, herbsworld, at least in some respect. One can always be a negative example. But in the immortal words of Robert Plant I ask: "How Many More Times?" I' ve heard this kind of nonsense ad nauseam. For my part I am increasingly convinced that Dylan's song "Ballad of A Thin Man" applies to several different versions of Mr. Jones. Especially the line about the law...

 
At 10/26/2025 10:19:00 AM, Blogger Dionys said...

Well, you walk into the room like a camel, and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket and your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law against you comin' around
You should be made to wear earphones
'Cause something is happening and you don't know what it is
Do you, Mr. Jones?

Bob Dylan

 
At 10/26/2025 10:37:00 AM, Blogger herbsworld said...

Dionys: I have never been “ A glass half full” kinda guy. Admittedly more “A glass half empty”. That is not to say I am pessimistic. Rather I consider it to be realistic, in the sense that If I feel that glass may become full.
Parallels may be drawn here in my political view. I am neither a Democrat nor Republican. I am a registered, lifelong, Independent voter (and thinker). The flexibility in not tying one’s hopes & dreams to any singular party affiliation.
Common ground (and sense) is how we will work our way out of this quagmire.

 

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