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by Thrasher@PermaLink: 4/20/2006 11:11:00 AM
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said...
Some of the best things in life come in a brown paper wrapper....
said...
NY doesn't speak for me. He's not even from this country. Just because you're in the public eye, that doesn't make your opinion any greater than the common person. Clinton could have dealt with these problems but was to busy taking care of his personal agenda. Bush is the unlucky one that has had to clean up his mess...we're lucky GW has the balls to put his neck out there.
jim in a very red state
said...
Thank you neil. I'm with you and your message.
A wounded but proud Vet
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King Harvest said...
Great interview. Maybe it's my imagination, but Neil really seemed to turn the reporters around. At first they seemed kind of critical and apprehensive, but by the end they had a bit of a different tone to their words. I really liked what the guy said at the end: "Anyone who think's he's doing this for publicity -- THAT'S(!) ridiculous!"
Great interview. And like Neil said (Jim), the great thing about America is that you can differ opinions with your friend, and still sit down at the same table and beak bread with them. You're slamming Neil for speaking his mind, but he's just standing up for what he believes in, like you are. And you both have a right to do that. The difference is that you're following the lemming off the cliff. He's trying to point you in the right direction.
And I like the album cover too. Simple and effective.
said...
The US are the most powerful state in the world, the last "super power" as some people say, maybe. The president of the US could be called the most powerful person in the world. ok?!
What the US-president is doing (or not) has at least some impact to anyone on this planet.
So everyone on this planet, may it be an US-citizen in the US, or a canadian in the US or a german, like me, living and working for 25 years in the Netherlands, can have and should have an opinion about what the US(-president) is doing or not.
If you, the US-citizen, think that this is not alright: please call your troops back to home, close your borders and live your own life and don't bother the rest of the world.......
I hope you will not do that as what you have to offer the world, in the past, now and for sure in the future was, is and will be great.
said...
I don't think that Neil Young whants to speak for everybody, only the ones whos voices are not over-represented in the media and elsewere. He speaks what he thinks is right and does not try to tell you what to think og how to think like the media or the politicians does. I think it is about time we get some critical political music like the music that Bob Dylan did in the 1960'. Way to go Neil.
Roll another number for the road!!
said...
I agree with my danish brother
said...
As Neil knows well, and many of us assume to be the case, fame and wealth--be it as an multi-national industralist, corporate CEO, or entertainer, allows access to the 'bully pulpit'.
Fortunately, Neil is using his access for those of us without the ability to capture an audience--short of the proverbial 'letter to the editor'.
Rock on Neil and thanks for using you talent and fame for the good of all.
-chicago
said...
Neil Young, can't sing and can only get attention by being a total idiot. We are in a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military conflicts of the last century-a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accomodation" but is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only two recent American Presidents: Regan and Bush
Neil Young....Love it or get the hell out
Southern Man
said...
I dont Know If you Postd this on Purpose but the date is 4-20 and the time is 11-11 humm Spiritual and Stoned ? only in Neil Young Land
Helpless
said...
That a boy, Neil! Isn't it refreshing to hear someone talk about their views in such an articulate and open manner? No mention of "evil doers".
said...
If some of you are so offended by Neil's actions, why don't you just ignore them? It's not like Neil's going to pull his album because some hillbilly said to.
Let Neil do what he wants. It's not anyone's right to interfere with his artistic vision, but his own.
Go listen to Toby Keith, you morons.
said...
It's really frustrating to me to hear and read all this stuff about Neil being pro-Bush before. He has never been pro-Bush and he has made his feelings on the President very well known through comments on Greendale as well as taking part in the vote for change tour. The only basis for this "pro-Bush" stuff is apparently his early support for the Patrit Act, which he quickly changed his mind on.
said...
War is indecent even if justified, and this war has, now even according to Bush had ZERO to do with 9/11 or WMDs. Being reasonable and speaking one's opinion is patriotic.
Stop the War! Speak out against 'The Ministry of War'
-Orwell.
said...
Way to go revisionist-redstatejim! You should apply for the White House press secretary job. Five short years after there were 4 dead in Ohio, AQ Khan stole the recipe for uranium enrichment from Urenco. When Reagan was Prez, Iran bought the recipe from Khan and began the centrifuge process. So redstatejim, are you suggesting that Clinton should have gone after the Axis of Evil while you were claiming he was wagging the dog for going after bin Laden?
said...
Revisionist-red-state-jim: Did I mention that Khan was arrested by the Danes in 1975, but was pressured to release him by the CIA in 1976 "to see where he went"? CIA decision was made by by some guy, I forget his name, but he was the immediate past Chairman of the RNC and he was from Texas.
said...
Remember the good ole' days when rock n' roll songs were just about drinking beer and girls.... ?
said...
I loved this interview. I really can't wait to hear this album... If it's as good as I hope it is, gonna buy copies for my friends and family as well..King Harvest, Alf, Danish dude.... like your posts! And wounded but proud vet, Thank You for your service and sacrifice.
said...
Now to the point, revisionist red state jim: Can you name the time in history when you could have joined the US military for 4 years and NOT had the opportunity to earn a combat medal? That is, when in our history have we not been "Living with War"?
said...
Over at the Unofficial Martin Guitar site the threads on Neil's album have been closed. Seems it is not okay over there for Martin guitar users to have political views or to discuss a new
Neil Young album if it is at all controversial. I guess discussion of Bob Dylan, Phil Ochs, Joan Baez, Pete Seeger et. al. should be banned too. Just because their protests songs we recorded in the 60's it is okay to talk about them. But don't dare criticize King George the almighty who is unanswerable to no one it seems.
King Harvest said...
I'm starting to doubt the legitimacy of this cover art. How do we know it's real??
Linda said...
At 4/20/2006 04:33:25 PM, Anonymous said...
"Remember the good ole' days when rock n' roll songs were just about drinking beer and girls.... ?"
How boring. I like lyrics that are thought provoking and clever. I like to think.
t.ogle said...
Great interview. Neil,you are right to say that everyone is intitled to their opinion. However, now that you have looked back on your life through Prairie Wind, are we to assume that you are retreating back to the days of CSNY and "Ohio"? Wasn't it you who said; No one has the answer but one thing is true you got to turn on evil when its comin after you, You got to face it down and when it tries to hide you got to go in after it and never be denied? That's what this is about. I wonder what you would have written about 9/11 had Al Gore been president? Mr. Bush is doing the only thing he can do and that is to be proactive. History will prove that he is and always was right. My opinion Neil. I respect your's, please respect mine. That said, I'll still by the record, simply because no-one in the history of rock-n-roll has been a greater force than you. Thanks for all the great music.
said...
NEIL YOUNG FOR PRESIDENT
Lazerlou said...
T.ogle,
You seem to be confusing the Saudi born terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 with the country of Iraq. "This" is about the invasion of Iraq based on a steady stream of lies proffered by the Bush administration.
Everyone is for getting the terrorists. The issue is, what the hell are we doing spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and getting thousands of innocent Americans killed and tens of thousands innocent Iraqis killed, and maiming tens of thousand more Americans?
What Neil and the rest of us resent is that the Bush administration lied to the public on many occasions to justify invading Iraq by suggesting that Iraq was cooperating with Al Qaeda and that Iraq had WMDs they were going to share with Al Qaeda. We now know it wasn't just incompetence that led to the "failure in inteeligence", it was purposeful misinformation that was dissemenated to the public while the Bush administration had knowledge to the contrary.
More innocent Amercian lives have been lost and changed forever due to this war than were lost in 9/11 already.
And if you did care about protecting the US, look what Bush's bogus war has done to our international credibility. Now that Iran has become an obvious treat to the West, we are SOL in terms of siging on allies to deal with Iran with any force. Bush has squandered our standing in the international community. Now nobody will sign on to deal with real threats, after Bush was revealed to be a liar.
That being said, Neil is the man, isn't he? We can agree on that! Thank goodness this world has him. Love ya Neil!
said...
Neil, Neil, Neil
How the hell are we going to keep the oil companies & the corporate America that we all love happy; if "W" doesn't keep making idiotic decisions --at least if that Vincenti Foxx kiss ass would close the borders with Mexico I could begin to think about supporting him again in some capacity - I am a pot smoking conservative -who loves Neil and recently has begun to hate President Bush --how did I vote for this guy twice!!! He
(George Bush Jr.) is a total loser as viewed from the left and from the far right and an embarrasment to our nation --"Fool me nce ...we don't get fooled again!"
George "Pete Townshend" Bush
t.ogle said...
Lazerlou, Do yourself a favor and stop watching CNN and reading all those liberal newspapers. I'm not confusing anyone here. Everyone knows that Saddam had WMD'S. He used them on his own people. He was funneling money to Al Qaeda and parts of Iraq were used as bases for terrorists. These are known facts. Next your going to tell us that Michael Moore's movie is true. My friend, I love Neil as much as you do, but I feel he's wrong on this one. I care deeply about our country, and the last thing either one of us wants is our people being blown up on the streets or the malls as they are in Israel. If it not for Bush and his proactive approach, trust me my friend, it would already be happening. I just don't agree this time. As for credibility, are you losing sleep because the French hate us. Remember, we've baled their asses out twice the last 75 years, but they seem to have forgotten about that. Like I said earlier, Neil is the greatest and always will be. No-one has had a greater influence on me that he has. I just think he's picked the wrong battle this time. Lazerlou, I'd go to a Neil concert with you anytime!
Mark Johnson said...
Haven't seen the track list posted here yet, so...
#1 After The Garden
#2 Living With War
#3 The Restless Consumer
#4 Shock and Awe
#5 Families
#6 Flags of Freedom
#7 Let's Impeach The President
#8 Lookin' For A Leader
#9 Roger and Out
#10 America The Beautiful
more here
said...
The only track I'm not really looking forward to is the last one, but I guess it rounds out the whole concept...
Doesn't help that I'm a Canadian, I suppose.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
HEY RED STATE JIM!
Nice to see somebody with some sense on these boards.
My Name, my Full name is: Cold Bowl of CHili. I've been fightin' with these flaming libs for days on these boards, man it's worse than I thoguht!
There is a long way to go to edjumacate these "know it alls". FIRST, they need to come to the conclusion that Michael Moor is full of shit-
They think his movies are like historical doculmentary or something. I can see all the stupid points they try to make, right out of that fat ass's movie!
You'd be amazed how stupid these hippies are!
Chili
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? Right!!!
If BUSH LIED, these DEMOCRATS LIED RIGHT? or are you libs in denial?
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
hey King Harvest-
If Canada was worth having, we would have taken it a long time ago!
NICE of you to take shots at Amercia! Are you LIBS gonna take that crap? He's talking about your country! Let me here a LIB defend it? WOn't happen, your just like them!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
HEY LAZER GOO!
get your facts straight! The 9/11 terrorists were from several ARAB nations, including UAE (united arab emirates) and Egypt. Besides, it doesn't matter-borders don't have a lot of meaning to ARAB nations. We are fighting ISLAMIC TERRISTS-accept it.
You are a BUFOOOOON Lazt Lou!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Oh and "ALF".....
It was YOUR country that tried to take over the world and we're STILL feeling those effects!
And your WRONG....you have the right to speak freely because the United States LIBERATED your AGGRESIVE country-DUH!
Would you be cutting Down Hitler today had we lost WWII???
I think Not! GODDAM you people need HISTORY lessons-CHRIST it's way worse than I thought! SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER you lazy libs!
CHA-CHING-
CHILI
Hayo said...
Chili, you clearly are the one who is in need of some history lessons. It's embarrassing. I can also advise you to stop trying to "edjumacate these know it alls", we are not going to change our minds just because a rightwinged dude is shouting his head off.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
I know that-DUH!
Hey Hayo! ha-y-y-y-o Daylight come and I wanta go home!
Go back and read all the crap from your Democratic Hero's
Are they lying?
Hayo said...
That was almost like..confusing.
1. Your replies never have anything to do with what you are replying on.
2. Don't try to make fun of my name, at least I use my real name instead of hiding behind a Neil lyric.
3. I don't have democratic hero's, I can actually think for myself, like most people you have been calling libs.
4. Buy a chill pill on the way home.
5. I love the album cover :)
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
OOPS!
I thought your name was a Lyric, My deepest,sincerest, apologies. I meant no disrespect ma'am.
So, let me "rephrase" the question....
If one could Summioze that "Bush Lied" about WMD's, and ALL of those fine folks listed 1/2 way up on this board said the same things-
would that, or would that not, make them liars too?
I love how NOBODY will address this simple question!!@!!
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP CHILI OUT!
Are they liars too?
Hayo said...
I think most people are liars. It's fun.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
SEE!
you can't even answer the question directly!
You make a piss poor excuse "everybody lies". Do you know why you do this? Cause YOU and your Lib Buddies are in denial!!!
To admit that, undermines your (And Neil's) entire foundation.
IT WAS BAD INTELLEGENCE! Bush recieved the same BAD data from CIA/OSS/IRAQI dissidents that your boy Bill Clinton and his gang of idiots did.
WHERE WAS NEIL WHEN CLINTON WAS LYING????????
HYPOCRITS I tell you! LIBERALS Can't handle the truth!
If BUSH LIED THEY LIED!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
WHERE WAS NEIL WHEN.....
Clinton Drug us into KOSOVO! That was a war right?
http://www.cnn.com/US/9903/23/u.s.kosovo.04/
Turned out, we fought that one form many wrong reason too!
Think Neil will do a follow up album?
Hayo said...
Calm the heck down man, I wasn't serious.
Where Neil was when Clinton was lying?
I guess he was making music? It's not like it is Neils duty to jump up when a president is lying, tho he sure did throw some flames at Clinton.
You have to keep in mind Bush is dragging loads of people into this without a proper reason. There was no connection between Saddam and 9/11, and "he was a dictator" is no valid reason as well. Here in the "free west" we think dictators are bad, but it's totally natural there. There is no universal "normal". They are doing things that were totally normal in the west 500 years ago.
That aside, you hardly have to look around for situations that are worse than it was/is in Iraq, but they just don't have oil.
And you know NOTHING about Neils foundation, don't even go there.
Mark Johnson said...
Don't feed the trolls.
Peace.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
TROLL?
your radio station sucks! Answer the question Mr. DEE JAY?
If Bush Lied, the Democrats listed above lied.
TRUE OR FALSE?
(damn your ugly-and that's comin' from me!)
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
And you'd be surprised how much I know about Neil my little Danish friend!
Shoot me some trivia son! I've been following him for 30 years, that's a long time.
Here's one for you Neil "Experts"
What Does Neil and Carrie do in JTTP while sitting on the front bumper of his old car on a bridge on his ranch?
Don't question Chili's knowledge of Neil!
said...
Oh yeah and chili just discovered what a search engine is, congratulations retard. Good luck with this guy Hayo, he's chucking out so many bad vibes in every direction we're all choking on his second hand smoke.
Hayo said...
Why are you talking to the Danish Neil fan all of a sudden?
And for the trivia, I have only been following Neils work for 12 years (as I am only 22), but that question is really not that hard. I even believe it's in Shakey. Besides I don't see what trivia has to do with anything, when I said foundation I was referring to your "To admit that, undermines your (And Neil's) entire foundation", not to basic knowledge about his life, which we should leave alone really, or at least not play games with.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Please.....
A search engine? Find the answer then-show me a search engine that has it-
you crazy fools don't believe anthing!
What are they doing on the bumper?
Ok wait, would a searcxh engine have this, what was interesting about the headlights on the car?
You question my knowledge, I follow up and still you don't believe me!
Same way with Bush-you guys here Michael Moore and reality flies out the window!
I've asked some simple questions and you guys DANCE around them
1. Are those Democrats lying if Bush is?
2. What were Neil & Carrie doing on the bumper?
3. What's interesting about the headlamps?
Come on chicken shits! ANSWER IT!
said...
Neil is changing the world one album at a time...
May the FORCE be with you my son.
Long may you run Neil.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
you said that already.
WTF kinda name is tequilla and the Bee?
Hayo said...
Again, we don't wanna play your games, your questions are irrelevant and stupid. Nobody questioned your knowledge of Neilism at all. Call me chickenshit, but I would feel really bad answerring those questions, which could easily be answerred by whipping out my JTTP vcd.
For the first, not neil-related question, why answer is yes.
said...
This is really ridiculous. How could someone who's been following Neil for 30 years not come to expect this kind of thing from him?
said...
Chili, thanks for your reply.
Talking about history:
I will make it worse:
Although the US (with some canadians!) liberated the world from the nazi's, the retorical skills of herr Goebbels seemed to have past to you, somehow.
So it was not a complete victory I am afraid: indeed we all still suffer.
And this:
I live in Rotterdam within a 15 minute walk of Delfshaven were in 1620 the schooner Speedwell left with 30 people to Plymouth (England) were the people embarked on the Mayflower and left for what is now Massachusetts.......
These people were heavily oppresed
in Europe.......
As freedom for people like you only means that one must agree with the politics of your governement, I am sure there will be a lot of Speedwells and Mayflowers leaving the US. Well, maybe the people will take planes or the car to Canada or Mexico.
(Happy you! ;-) )
History repeats itself in this case: The US now are as intolerant as Europe was then.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
?????
goddam Alf! WTF does all that mean?
I had to read it three times and I can't figure anything out about what you said! That's just jibberish!
OK-I've been to Plmyouth Rock (And I drove a plymouth many moons ago)
But I don't understand your point.
PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO COME HERE "DUUFUSS" (that mean's idiot in German) We have Mexicans crossing the desert in DROVES baby!
Nobody is leaving here-not even Alec Baldwin! But one can only hope.
Now I don't get your point-We Liberated Most of europe dude, your countries "copy", in principle, or free form of government, excpet for France which are retreating (no punn intended)from freedom every day.
So let me get this striaght, you proud to be a 15 minute walk from a place that Germans left to goto a place where they could catch a ride on the ole' Mayflower to goto Massachusetts?
Damn dude! Seems like you re-enforced Chili's opinion!
I'll say this, Germany knows how to make military uniforms-they always looked pretty sharp to me!
Mark Johnson said...
Ad hominem attacks do not advance the debate here.
Peace and Love,
Mark
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Well you called me a troll I think it was?
Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black! MORE hypocrisy from te left.
More and more and more, no substance, you guys don't answer the questions, you have no solutions, JUST COMPLAINTS!
I can sum Liberals up like this:
Conservatie: Hey, where do you want to eat tonight?
Liberal: Oh, I don't know.
Conservation: How About Chineese?
Liberal: No, they eat dogs sometimes.. and I'm a member of PETA
Conservative: That rules out Thai, How about Mexican?
Liberal: Naa, we suppress the poor people there, make them cross the borders and work at a non-union Wal*Marts.
Conservative: Italian?
Liberal: I don't care where we eat!
Conservative: Great, I know a new place this direction, great food, clean, your going to love it!
_______________________________
THEY EAT A WONDERFULL MEAL
________________________________
Liberal: THIS SUCKS! I HATE GERMAN FOOD! THE SERVICE WAS TERRIBLE, SAURKRAUT MAKES ME FART AND SAUSAGE HAS MEAT IN IT AND I'M A VEG! YOU NEVER PICK THE RIGHT PLACE! YOUR A LIAR! THIS PLACE WAS NOT GOOD! YOU LIE!
Sums it up perfectly!
Chill
said...
Well Chili,
I just over estimated you.
Excuse me for that!
I suppose you fancy those black Waffen-SS uniforms above the ordinary Wehrmacht uniforms?
They really look much sharper!!
Mark Johnson said...
Chilli,
My comments were not directed toward you, but toward everyone. I just think a bit of civility could generate a more interesting discussion.
Disagree?
Mark
said...
Mark,
I wouldn't call this a debate.
It's something stupid, i don't know how to call it.
Hayo said...
This is not a debate indeed. It's a rightwinged guy shouting at all the other people. He loves history but makes historical mistakes I didn't even make when I was in highschool, and starts WRITING IN ALL CAPS when he doesn't know what to say. It's really interesting tho, I wasn't aware of the fact there are still people like him on this planet untill now.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
I'm sorry boys!
I was using CPAS to emulate shouting. the shouting LIBS do.
My bad! You guys keep missing the point though. your never answer my questions, well one did, but it was like pulling teeth.
That lends you credibility Mayo-Democrats are liars too! But Liberals look past that. I don't look past lousy Republicans and there are plenty!
you need to get off the grammer and caps thing, just read the damn thing and quit cryin' like a kindergarten teacher!
said...
Neil Young never supported George W. Bush. That rumor got started because Young was honored with the Spirit Of Liberty Award by People for the American Way back in 2002, and he spoke on the Patriot Act -- saying "To protect our freedoms it seems we're going to have to relinquish some of our freedoms for a short period of time." I didn't get the impression that he approved of this, rather that he saw it (or feared it) as inevitable, at least temporarily; "These are our rights and we can get them back."
I have to laugh every time some misinformed media outlet refers to PFAW as a "right-wing" organization. Despite the name, PFAW (pfaw.org) is dedicated to the "American Way" as pluralism, democracy, freedom of speech and press. They were some of the principal lobbyists oppposing the appointment of Ashcroft.
Young's feelings about W can probably best be expressed in the famous 2004 interview with Toronto Now.
Bluejay
Mark Johnson said...
This is about exchanging ideas... it's about getting a message out. It's about empowering people by giving them a voice. I know not everyone believes what I say is what they think. But like I said before.. ya know.. red and blue is not black and white. We're all together.
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Lazerlou said...
Chili is clearly unbalanced and lonely and uses blogs to obtain recognition from other human beings that he clearly does not receive in real life. That he is happy and willing to receive scorn should be telling to you all, that this guy needs your empathy and pity, not your scorn. Everyone needs to ignore the guy for his sake, or else he is simply going to continue to resort to flaming on the internet to get recognition from others, rather than try to build relationships in real life. For his sake and ours, just ignore the guy - we are all just making his sickness worse. In the end we want this blog to return to normal, where right wing flamers no longer troll.
Chili good luck to you brother. Love will find a way and come to you. You've got to have faith and not be scared.
Hayo said...
"I was using CPAS to emulate shouting. the shouting LIBS do."
Yes, thats what caps is usually used for, and shouting offends me. It's pretty low IQ, you should try to convince people with the words, not the size of them. We keep missing the point because you don't have one.
On the Neil-supporting-Bush thing, I remember he once said "This song is for George W Bush" and launched into "piece of crap" That was before 9/11.
said...
One of the good things to be a german is to be able to read german:
Kriegserklärung an den Präsidenten
Rockstar Neil Young kehrt zurück zum politischen Protestsong leben
Rock-Altmeister Neil Young ("Heart of Gold", "Rockin' in The Free World") kehrt zurück zum politischen Protestsong: In den letzten Tagen kursierten Gerüchte über Aufnahmen für ein neues Album auf diversen Blog-Seiten im Internet, die nun von Young auf seiner Website bestätigt wurden. Dort bezeichnet er seine neue Musik als "Metal Folk Protest"; die eingeschworene Fan-Gemeinde reagierte überwiegend euphorisch auf Youngs Rückkehr zum Rock.
Erst letzten September hatte Young, mittlerweile 60 Jahre alt, mit "Prairie Wind" ein eher ruhiges Songwriter-Album vorgelegt, das an seine großen Erfolge in den siebziger Jahren anknüpfen sollte. Doch eine Pause wollte er sich nicht gönnen. Young ist berühmt dafür, seine Musik roh und nahezu unbearbeitet aufzunehmen, wenn er neues Material geschrieben hat. Und so wurden die Aufnahmen für "Living With War" dem Vernehmen nach in nur drei Tagen in kalifornischen Studios abgeschlossen.
Einer der neuen Songs wird "Impeach the President" heißen. Young knüpft damit an sein "Greendale"-Album von 2003 an, in dessen Songs er den Abbau der Bürgerrechte nach dem 11. September beklagte und die ländliche Idylle eines anderen Amerika beschwor.
Es ist nicht das erste Mal, das Young einen US-Präsidenten direkt attackiert. 1970 schrieb er die Hippie-Protest-Hymne "Ohio". Darin macht er Präsident Nixon direkt verantwortlich für das Klima der Einschüchterung und Gewalt, das im Sommer 1970 dazu führte, daß die Nationalgarde an der Kent State University in Ohio vier protestierende Studenten erschoß. Seitdem äußert sich Young, der stets betont, froh darüber zu sein, daß er kanadischer Staatsbürger ist, immer wieder politisch - allerdings von unterschiedlichen Standpunkten aus. In den achtziger Jahren unterstützte er Ronald Reagans geistig-moralische Wende, und nach dem September-Terror 2001 sorgte sein patriotisches "Let's roll", frei nach den überlieferten letzten Wortes eines Passagiers der vierten Maschine, die in Pennsylvania zum Absturz gebracht wurde, für Kritik von liberaler Seite.
Jetzt kehrt er zurück zum wütenden Protest von links und belebt damit die totgesagte Protestsong-Tradition wieder. Das neue Album soll in vier bis sechs Wochen erscheinen. Wenn sich George Bushs Umfragewerte weiter nach unten entwickeln und aus dem Irak-Desaster kein Ausweg gefunden werden kann, hat Neil Young damit die einmalige Chance, den Kundgebungen und Protesten des Sommers den Soundtrack zu liefern.
Klaus Birnstiel
Süddeutsche Zeitung Nr. 90 vom 19.4.2006, Seite 13
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Danke!
Dionys said...
Being a German, but also of Italian and French descent, I would like to point out, that many Europeans, and imagine: the vast majority of Germans, forever will be grateful to these brave soldiers from Britain, France, Poland, Russia, Canada and especially from the US who liberated Europe and did away with the Nazi-Regime. We are not obliged to eternal gratitude towards their loudmouth grand children who did precious little lately to make this world a better place, but are using up the planet (Didn't Neil young say something like that?) There are a lot of Americans of all political creeds who are somewhat different, that's why one can take them serious...
said...
Neil said it all too well. I vividly recall listening to Ohio when it was first released. The song resonated then, and it still delivers a power message, as it pointed out the stupidity of a war that really accomplished nothing.
The current war in Iraq has done nothing but further infuriate the Arab world and has thrown us deeper into the vortex of hatred. We were misled, and I strongly suspect that history will verify that. I feel incredibly sorry for anyone who has been wounded, or for the families of those killed. I truly hope that history validates that this current war was more useful and purposeful than our failed campaign in Indochina.
Lazerlou said...
T.Ogle,
Your wrote:
"I care deeply about our country, and the last thing either one of us wants is our people being blown up on the streets or the malls as they are in Israel. If it not for Bush and his proactive approach, trust me my friend, it would already be happening. I just don't agree this time."
Now I strongly disagree that we would have suicide bombers on our streets if it wasn't for the Bush administration's "proactive" efforts. Anyway you slice it, Iraq is far less of a threat than Syria Iran, Pakistan and private money from Saudi Arabia in terms of supporting and funding suicide bombers (Note I do recognize that Saddam's regime was giveing money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers).
But that isn't the point I want to make. The point I want to make is that even if we were subject to the ocassional suicide bomber as Israel is, your chances of dying from heart disease or in a car accident would still be exponentially larger than it would if suicide bombers were actually blowing themselves up in our malls.
One of the best classes I ever had in lawschool was a class called "law, regulation and behavior," which was essentially a class in behavioral law and economics. One of the best things I learned in that class is that human beings tend to use heuristics, shortcuts in reasoning, all the time that often result in bad decisions and poor planning.
One of these heuristics we studied was the tendency of people to think events have a far higher probability of actually happeneing if people have readily accessible poerful or scary images of the potential results of these events in their heads. That is, if they are able to conjure a mental picture of the possible results of a low probablility event, say an airplane crashing, they tend to think the probability of that event actually happened is much much higher than it actually is.
The result is that people spend a lot of time worrying about plane crahes, some even refuse to fly, yet the same people often forget to buckle their seatbelts when they get in their car, despite the fact that the liklihood of dying in a car wreck is factors of ten larger than it is to die in a plane crash.
Point of all this is, even if there were suicide bombings here, which would be awful, you should still be *far* more concerned about car crahes, the effects of smoking, heart disease, and poverty.
said...
What a war-like debate you just had. But try to remember peace:-)
I think that is the message that Neil is trying to come acros with here so why shouldnt we be the first to try and live it out. A meaningfull and constructive debate is only created when mutual reconition is the foundation for the debate. So lets try to keep that in mind and toghether try to remember how peace can be an option for the future.
said...
Tyler Drumheller, the CIA's former top man in Europe, tells CBS News that the White House ignored intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. Drumheller says former CIA Director George Tenet told the president and the vice president that Iraq's foreign minister, with whom U.S. spies had struck a deal, was saying that Saddam Hussein had no active WMD program.
The news fell on deaf ears, Drumheller says.
"The [White House] group that was dealing with preparation for the Iraq war came back and said they were no longer interested," he tells "60 Minutes." "And we said, 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said, 'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about regime change.'"
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
WHy don't you answer my question since you know so much about the CIA-
If those democrats ALL said the same thing Bush was -Does that make ALL of them liars too?
and once again Lou-your statement here and I quote:
But that isn't the point I want to make. The point I want to make is that even if we were subject to the ocassional suicide bomber as Israel is, your chances of dying from heart disease or in a car accident would still be exponentially larger than it would if suicide bombers were actually blowing themselves up in our malls.
That bothers the shit ought of me! You equate it to a disease and if it doesn't happen a lot, why bother?
That doesn't float in the good Ol'e USA- for example Lou,
Let's say that somebody held a person of Color, a black man, as a slave for ten years and it's recently discovered-
Why do anything right Lou? it's only one guy-who cares right? Most black are not slaves so whyu should it bother you!
Your logic is, and I'm trying to be kind-warped!
We must fight all wrongs wit heverything we got! Slavery is worng, fight it! Terrorism is wrong-FIGHT IT! Disease is wrong-FIGHT IT!
Loe Gerihg disease doen't kill many, so should we fight it Lou?
What about aids? it kills a small percentage of Americans-do we look the other way?
I think not-
(see. conservatives can have a hear t too!)
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
How about AIds lou?
"MOST" Americans are likely to die from cancer, but if my memory serves-we spend far more on aids research (perhaps it's heart disease-Chili can't remember).
Using your logic, we fight Cancer not aids firts!
out of 300 million Americans, only 3 thousand died on 9/11, your right!
0.00001% of Americans died that day- why the hell do Anything-hmmm?
you want to retract that statement lou-We'll let ya!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Hey CIA ANON guy....
Read this:
The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."
Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."
Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."
Said Mr. Bush, "We did not find those weapons."
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
Here comes the "he's selling a book" replys- EVERYBODY IS SELLING A BOOK-----or an ALBUM! (draw your own conclusion there)
Hayo said...
tumbleweed
said...
Matt. 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Tumbleweed Connection! one of me first albums!
I'm not a bible thumper so don't bother-
I think Kennedy once said-the best defense is a good offense.
That's true. We have yet to be attacked since 9/11 "LIES" or not. You guys call it paranoia, I call your complacentsy. Your falling back into that "lull" of security-that when the cowardly bastards will strike!
We caught one here at Georgia Tech, just yesterday. So, let Neil and his fans smoke some dope and pretend it's safe to drink at the watering hole-but there are still a few more lions to sleigh-eh lou?
Hayo said...
Maybe you should not buy this album.
Hayo said...
Maybe you should not buy this album.
said...
(I forgot my coat)
Helen said...
Rock on Neil! Rock on!
Peace.............
said...
CBoC,
I'm hesitant to respond to you given the warnings about you on this board.
But the difference between Bush and the Dems you quote is easy to point out. Bush knew at the time he made certain statements that they were false, while the quotes you give were not made with knowledge they were false.
That is an easy difference to understand, isn't it? It is the difference between being wrong, and being a liar. President Bush is a proven liar who said certain things knowing they were not true.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
ARGH- (That's the sound of Chili Vomiting!)
I hope that lady walking naked through the flowers is not you, cause her fat ass is gonna close those daiseys right up!
Christ almighty put some clothes on woman!
t.ogle said...
Lazerlou, thanks for replying. I've been trying to figure you out all day, and the fact that you went to law school is my answer. Let me ask you, as a matter of law, was Mr. Clinton's behavior in regards to the intern an impeachable offense? I believe that it is. Let me offer you a good read; its titled Why America Slept, written by Gerald Posner. It will explain in great detail the Clinton administrations lack of planning inrergards to terrorism. Its a great book. The point I was trying to make in my previous posting is that the freedom we have as we know it comes to end the day the first suicide bomber strikes on our soil. As for the "occassional bombing in Israel", think again. It happens more often than you realize. And please don't compare this to dying in car crashes or airplanes. These have been going on long before.all of this. One last thing. The last time I looked, President Bush's press conferences are held at the White House, Bin Laden's are from a cave.
Peace.
said...
Yo chili boy! Dems lie. Repubs lie. Everybody lies. And we all live with war.
Please take your RNC talking points to another board where people might care what you have to say.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
I used to live in Morrison....
Thanks! but I think I'll hang around here a while and "enlighten" you.
Freedom of SPeech right?
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
uh- your statement.....
"But the difference between Bush and the Dems you quote is easy to point out. Bush knew at the time he made certain statements that they were false, while the quotes you give were not made with knowledge they were false."
what changed in a the time Bush took over the oval office? Are you saying that the Democrats had all this intellegence, then Bush takes office, and they say- "George, we're wrong about the WMD's" and George say's "SHHHH-don't tell anyone, we'll use this as an excuse to go to war!"
Is that what you could POSSIBLY be saying?
Your INSANE! That's simply rubbish. Your not being honest with yourself dude.
said...
chili boy -
yup, freedom of speech. Great thing, eh? That's why all those fine people are dyin in Iraq and Afghanistan, right? Jes so you can spout your vitriol here?
Pleeze, pretend this is Morrison and take yourself elsewhere . . .
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
In a Sense....YES!
See, if your a "deep thinker" perhaps you can see some logic in it.
Mr. Red Rock-do you know anything about our Military, Military Strategy and Military History?
Chili will give you a lesson if not-But I venture to guess you don't, because you can't see how a soldier fighting in IRAQ or Afghanistan is keeping your boney ass safe.
War strategy 101 is to TAKE TERRITORY. This is the goal from the git go.
Japan-pearl Harbor, the Alutions, Philipenese, CHina, etc, etc, Germany, Poland, Fronce and all the rest.
the idea is to spread out , whilest keeping your supply lines safe (logistics are everything) and drive your enemy off the contenent. Pretty simple really.
The fricken Carazy rags that hit us on 9/11 attacked us here at home. Never happend before (Ok a few U-Boats, Japanese Ballons and a torpedo or two).
It was easy for us totrackem' donw to Afghan & Iraq (stay with me you blithering Libs) It's a "core" so to speak. So, in essence, fnut that wants to meet 72 virgins, they get an express ticket courtesy of the USA- they deserve it. Let em' die.
OK- WHile they are "preoccupied" with us in IRAQ, it prevents any attacks on our mailand, or at least helps in prevention.
So, they are indeed protecting, me, you and your momma dude.
Now you libs are jumping out of your vegitarian skins right now-but that's it in a nutshell.
All I care about is this nations security (you should too) if it comes at the expense of crazies, oh fricken well.....
Keep up the peace rallies, we'll protect your right to do so.
Stick that in your bong and smoke it!
Hayo said...
Ahh. You should become a soldier and get shot and all :)
Anything against vegetarians btw?
said...
Sir Chili,
You ask:
"what changed in a the time Bush took over the oval office? Are you saying that the Democrats had all this intellegence, then Bush takes office, and they say- "George, we're wrong about the WMD's" and George say's "SHHHH-don't tell anyone, we'll use this as an excuse to go to war!"
Are you joking or are you serious? Maybe you are unstable.
What changed? Bush became persident and conducted three years of intensive intelligence gathering leading up to the war. Three years of information was gathered by his administration and the only information given to Congress and the public was selected to bloster his assertion that Iraq had WMD and his call for war, even going so far as to claim Iraq had a nuke program when he found out while in office it did not.
Isn't it obvious to you what changed? Three years of knowledge. He found out that WMDs did not exist while he was in office, as is supported by the former CIA official noted above, and still told everyone they did to justify his war.
I'm afraid now I'm going to have to join the boycott against you. I guess feeding trolls is a bad idea. I'm sorry everyone.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
HEY HEYO!
how do you know I wasn;t in the service-hmmm?
So, bush get in right, fires EVERYONE at CIA and FBI, the NEW people he hires tell him over the next 3 years "No WMD's" he says No PRoblem, We're still goin in right?
Whew we, your the one that's crazy-
Go ahead Boycott me you chickens!
Truth got your toungue?
said...
Trolls...rhymes with assholes...
said...
I have heard many of my classmates recently talking about a possibility that our military had captured Osama bin Ladin in the early days of the war in Afghanistan, but has kept it a secret. He (the president) is presumably waiting until just before the presidential elections to unvail this fact, in order to secure enough votes.
Hayo said...
Chili,
I already asked you not to make fun of my name, it's pretty childish. Also your reply again didn't make sense.
said...
Meh, don't listen cold bowl, his comments are like misaimed cumshots. Kind of sticky but they don't get the job done. Just ignore him.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Hey MAYO er HAYO!
you libs take the cake!
read a few post up where you wrote
Hayo said...
Ahh. You should become a soldier and get shot and all :
And you get mad if I make fun of your stupid name?!@
you wish I get shot, and then say "don't make fun of my name!"
what a fricken BABY! wha! wha! wha!
Let's see "Hayo" hmmm is your first name "RAY" ray hayo?
close to radio? you should have been a dee jay.
HAYO.....HAYYYYO DAYLIGT COMES AND I WANT TO GO HOME!
(another commie libs stupid song)
oh-and there is no such thing as a wasted cum shot ;)
said...
You are a wasted cumshot boy, you are the load your mother should have swallowed.
said...
I don't always find myself on the same side of political issues with Neil Young, but he preseneted a clarity of thought that hase me in complete agreement with him. There should be no question about his patriotism. He is as much a patriot as George Bush; probably more because he believes in free speach.
said...
Neil is just another voice - no more, no less - than other voices. I don't care if it's from Bhutan, every vooice matters! And that is what Neil is saying. I agree with that and the message about our current administration. It's about time this message goes out big.
said...
Chili - You are so damn amusing! Don't get me wrong - I don't agree with one iota, but boy, you make me laugh. Thanks, we need some good entertainment these days.
said...
Let's see, the original post is about the cover art, right? Hey, I like it.....and I really liked the interview, I thought Neil was articulate and I agree with king Harvest, it seemed like he did change the tone of the inquiry... a classic, I hope it gets bitorrented, burned and listed,eh?
which brings me to a question......anyone know where all the traders from the hempsall site got off to? I been lookin' for some vines and I haven't found 'em yet...... Isn't there a NY tradelist somewhere?
Hayo said...
Yeah, thanks for that bullshit Chili.
I won't even react on your barely readable stuff, all I can say is that my first name is Hayo. That might look stupid to you because you are a yank who doesn't know there is something outside of the USA, and you would not even be able to pronounce my name. So no, my names not "Ray".
I am using my real name to voice my opinions instead of hiding behind lyrics like you, or posting anonymous like that penis guy. That sure makes me an easy target for people like you, but I don't care, your opinion is still unstable and your arguments are still crap, that's why nobody takes you serious.
Also I never said I wanted you to be shot, I just suggested it because that would be a very patriotic thing. You could show pictures of it and be really proud.
t.ogle said...
Hey Chili; I've been reading you for 2 days and I was wondering why none of the libs on this post have answered your question: Did all of those democrats lie? It amazes me how when presented with the truth a liberal will not admit we conservatives are right. I'll bet most of tehm don't no that Neil's late father is in the National Hockey League Hall of Fame. They'll tell us its not true and say its a right wing conspiracy. What do you think?
Gene said...
Wow, this has been amazing. It's weird how you can take facts(?) and use them to argue both sides of a story. The Dems may have said the same thing but they didn't use these facts(?) as a reason to start a war. Sanctions were working. Now because of the war, there will be more instability and possibly the start of another world war. We should have never gone into Iraq and stuck with our original mission.
Hayo said...
You guys are way too stuck in this lib-dem thing. It's not like people are divided in 2 groups, we are all individuals.
Another reason for not answering Chilibowls question is the fact he is is just shouting like a retarded 5 year old, nobody is interested in his question, most people just wanna say something about the album cover. (I did answer his question tho, as I don't totally dislike Chili ).
said...
T.ogle..... Lazer Lou and a couple others have answered that question at least a half dozen times on other comment lines, Coldbowl just keeps posting the same thing, and doesn't pay attention to what anyone else says anyway.... then, when you point out the inconstency of his rantings, he deletes everything that he posted... I am done with him, he is a buffoon.
And Hayo, you are right, the whole con/lib and republican/democrat thing is bullshit. The only way Democrats get elected is by sounding like Republicans, and Republicans spend big and expand government when they get elected. There really isn't much difference between the 2 parties anymore...........imho
and I guess I'll try one more time .....
Is there a NY list that does vines and weeds? There haven't been any trees at hempsall in a long time, just wonderin'
t.ogle said...
Hayo; you are right we are individuals, the difference being that we have differing opinions. Isn't this the point Neil is trying to make. As for Chili, he is way over the top. I was really only busting his chops. But I must tell you, I'am completely torn about this. I've been a Neil fan since 1969, I'm now 49 and my outlook on alot of things has changed over the years. No matter how much you may dislike Bush, is still the President and should be supported. History will tell us whether he lied to us or not. A part of me really is disappointed in Neil for doing this record, but there is the other part that can't wait to hear it. I'll buy and if he tours and comes somewhere close to home here in Baltimore I'll go see him. Its Neil and his work means a great deal to me. I guess maybe this is just Neil being Neil and as fans we should be greatful he's still here to do what he does best. Thanks for reading.
said...
who cares dems repub, libs straights, gays, heavies foreigners, native born 'mericans,who cares. this war was based on false statements if not lies- a reason for impeachment. there are nunerous other executive office ineptitides: spending dough w friends(body & humvee armour that is sub standard) the list is long. But the cover art is effective.
If one takes exception the artist Neil and /or his politics, don't buy the alblum.
said...
I cannot believe that Neil's new album has created such hostility! I have followed N's career since 1973 and have read and researched him for years. Neil represents, in my opnion and yes I am still entitled to it, what is truly unique about being Canadian. He is gentle, articulate, passionate, committed and has a great sense of humour. I have to laugh at people who say Neil is doing "this" for publicity -- geez, it's not like he needs the MONEY... I think that his brush with death last year, and losing his Dad has changed him. He is way out in public these days, more so than ever before. He has gone through some kind of catharsis and some people would rather slam him than remember all the the great music he's produced over the past 40 years. Leave the guy alone -- he is just one person on the planet that has as much right to say how he feels about this INSANITY as idiot-boy George Bush and his henchmen have to go in and blow people up to secure oil and bully the world. I just love it when Neil reminds people that he pays TAXES in the US and if my memory serves me correctly I have never heard a peep about Neil participating in shady deals, evading his responsibilities to pay HUGE amounts of money in tax. Again, leave the poor guy alone. One day he won't be here...! Maybe the U.S. is just one big ball of anger (because of that horrible day on 9/11) and with anger comes over-reaction, violence, and in Bush's case outright murder of innocent people. Canadian soldiers have been killed today in Afghanistan so it's not ALL about you Americans -- grow up and put your energy into giving back -- like go help a homeless person with a meal or a cigarette; visit a veteran's hospital, take a moment to honour the people you love and quit picking on Neil!
said...
hey t.ogle - I agree with some of what you said (last post) -- I was around when OHIO was released along with other musician's songs of protest. A lot of people protested the AUDACITY of musician's actually writing about REALITY. It's time we N. Americans woke up and start to get REAL... 9/11 was a horrible tragedy that changed us forever -- think about the innocents in Iraqi who have to endure, day after day, death and destruction, maiming and murder. What makes it OK over there? I wish I could find a way to understand. You don't have to RESPECT a president just because he holds the position. Respect is earned and frankly, George just keeps driving home that he doesn't deserve much.
said...
LazerLoser,
You are a crass indignant narrow-minded sycophant.
If Neil were to suddenly stop you would have your head so far up his ass you would need surgery to have it removed. Do you have a life outside Neil's ass?
Have you accomplished anything beyond a BLOG and Neil’s ass? Sports, Family, started a company, gone fishing with your Dad? Taken your Mommy to a nice lunch? Sports???? WELL HAVE YOU!
I bet you are one big fat blob with no life outside the confines of your lover's grip....um I mean your keyboard and with your head up Neil's ass.
TYPICAL 5 Min in LazerLosers life:
Toke, type, eat chips, eat doughnuts...."yummy doughnuts". Type, toke, drink diet beverage, type, be a complete ASS. Toke, "Man I am funny"...Type, toke, eat chips, type.
Very sad LazerLoser I would hate to be you.
There is a process called critical thinking and this not the act of being insulting too others who do not ascribe to your wussy French Canadian philosophy of life. Now that I have insulted you it is only fair that I offer to meet you any place, in the US, to continue this discourse in a more…um traditional fashion. Yeeeesss let’s call it traditional values vs. wuss. Now, It has been a while since I have had the pleasure of being in the ring for a one-on-one debate, but you know what they say….It’s like ridin a bike.
In short, you are low-breed, common, fat assed liberal who believes in the bigotry of mediocrity.
Sincerely,
Mr. Man
said...
*In short, you are low-breed, common, fat assed liberal who believes in the bigotry of mediocrity.*
Wow, you're a complete and utter prick.
Hayo said...
stfu already mr man, you are just another frustrated retard who can only think in left and right. We don't need your crap opinions.
said...
"Wow, you're a complete and utter prick."
Why thank you. But, if it weren't for LazerLoser being the original "complete and utter Prick" on these many Blogs re: Neil; I would not have had anything to aspire to be like.
HayhoHum,
I read all your post across the threads and frankly you just did not measure a response. Nonetheless, you try to sound important, clever and far left of center, but never really deliver the goods on any issue. Let’s use your last post attacking me as an example:
“.stfu already mr man (my first post, but you put me in my place. Very Clever!), you are just another frustrated retard (how many frustrated retards do you know? Generalizing make you seem dull and unable to form complex ideas. Be more specific. Why am I a retard? Make analogs that will point out how my ideas are similar to these other FT’s you know so well. Explore my possible motivations for my post) who can only think in left and right. (sophomoric, boring and AGAIN be more specific) We (you have a mouse in your pocket whilst writing this. Who is we?) don't need your crap opinions. (Why is it a crap opinion? Can be more specific; based on what evidence?)”
I could go on and on and on, but you are one rather boring person. I hope this helps. Maybe you should have finished that critical thinking class at University. And, if you haven’t may I suggest you seriously consider taking it this Fall.
Cordially,
Mr. Man
Hayo said...
Dear "mr Man"
You sure are a step up from mr Chili. I will reply once, I don’t feel like hanging around here much longer as I never expected to be having conversations like this with Neil Young fans.
“HayhoHum”
Yeah, very clever, I didn’t hear that one before...
"Maybe you should have finished that critical thinking class at University. And, if you haven’t may I suggest you seriously consider taking it this Fall."
I am a history teacher and I am in the art academy now, so I don’t think I will have time for a critical thinking class, sorry, maybe when I am older.
“I read all your post across the threads and frankly you just did not measure a response. Nonetheless, you try to sound important, clever and far left of center, but never really deliver the goods on any issue.”
Important and clever? I wasn’t trying to sound like that, sorry if it looked like that to you, but it looks more like an excuse to insult me. Far left of center? Yeah, I probably am, as I am a Dutch leftist, and I can’t say I am ashamed of that. And about the issue, I only said I like the album cover and the message of the album, and I bashed you and Chili just because you both do act like pricks. You were insulting someone who didn’t do anything wrong in my eyes, so I insulted you, and I never measure my insults.
“Be more specific.”
I don't really feel the need to be more specific about the left-right thing, it's pretty obvious but you will probably never get out of that way of thinking, and I am not even gonna try to get you out of it, you are free to think what you want after all.
“I could go on and on and on, but you are one rather boring person.”
First of all you don’t even know me. I don't feel the need to be entertaining here , I would not even be able to because English is not my first language. If you want to see what parts of me are interesting just visit my website. I hope you won't be as childish as to use it to attack me as making fun of my name is getting pretty old now. Speaking of boredom, do you have any cool hobbies?
Anything else you want to know? Just ask me, you can even use my email address for it.
Without pride,
Hayo
said...
My response to this quote
“I read all your post across the threads and frankly you just did not measure a response. Nonetheless, you try to sound important, clever and far left of center, but never really deliver the goods on any issue.”
This is a typical analogy that someone would use to deconstruct anyones point of view. Just by saying that, it doesn't make it true. Often enough the technique of summarising someones point of view with false statements is used by those who are evading the real topic at hand and are using a cheap yet deceptive technique to try and render someones strong point useless. You aren't fooling me or anyone else.
If you have a valid point then make it, and the same command can be turned upon yourself. Be more specific.
said...
Hayo,
Re your comments: Thank you and fair enough.
Respectfully, my post to LazerLoser had nothing to do with you. I my humble opinion; LazerLoser is a mean spirited bully to anyone who does not share his worldview. And, I did discount the barbs between he and Chili. Normally, I would not have responded in such a fashion, but he hides behind a keyboard not thinking about how his comments will incite others and further debase the discourse to school yard thuggery.
We can never know enough History and there can never be enough Art in the world. Good luck at the Academy.
Kind regards,
Mr. Man
PS Hobbies - Comics, family, friends, MMA and reading
Fav author - Tom Robins
“The unexamined life is not worth living”
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Chili shall adress Mr. Hayo Verhere
I'm gonna post your stupid reply and bust it down in CAP (that's big letters doofus) I'll type real slow so I don't fuck up and you EXACTLY what word I'm saying-But I ain't runnin' spell check bitch!
here's your stupid Reply;
Yeah, thanks for that bullshit Chili. (NO PROBLEM)
I won't even react on your barely readable stuff,(YOU AE ALREADY REACTING TO IT HYPOCRIT!) all I can say is that my first name is Hayo. That might look stupid to you (YES)because you are a yank (YES) who doesn't know there is something outside of the USA (AND DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS), and you would not even be able to pronounce my name. So no, my names not "Ray". (YOUR REAL NAME IS HAYO VAN REEK-AND I GOTTA TELL YA, THAT TRANSLATES HERE IN AMERICA TO "HAYO I STINK"-THAT'S A FACT JACK, ASK YOUR COMMIE LIB BUDDIES, THEY WILL EVEN AGREE) VAN REEK? HEY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT MISSING TEEN, NATELEE HALLOWAY IS?)
I am using my real name to voice my opinions instead of hiding behind lyrics like you (I HAVE TO HIDE, YOUR PEACE NICKS WOULD COME AND LET'S SEE, HAVE MY CHILD SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD, KICK MY ASS, OR WISH I WAS A SOLDIER AND GET SHOT), or posting anonymous like that penis guy. ((??? PENIS GUY?)That sure makes me an easy target for people like you, but I don't care, your opinion is still unstable (NO ARGUAMENT) and your arguments are still crap,(CAUSE YOU CAN'T ANSWER EM') that's why nobody takes you serious. (AGAIN, RAT'S ASS COMES TO MIND)
Also I never said I wanted you to be shot, (YOU SIR, ARE A LYING SACK OF SHIT)I just suggested it because that would be a very patriotic thing. You could show pictures of it and be really proud. (SICK MOTHER FUCKER YOU LIBS ARE-SEE? SO PEACE LOVING, FORGIVING CREEPS-PLEASE....I STAND BY THE ONE WORD THAT SUMS YOU LIB SCUM UP-HYPOCRITS!)
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
hey Farafield,
thanks! that was very kind of you-
CHILI
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
EARTH TO GENE-SANCTIONS WER NOT WORKING!
THEY WERE ONLY HELPING THE FRENCH AND THE GERMANS! "OIL FOR FOOD" SCANDAL RING ANY BELLS? OH THAT'S RIGHT, IF YOU RELY ON DAN RATHER FOR YOUR NEWS, YOU NEVER HEARD OF THAT!
MY BAD!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
chili has to run now, gotta play tennis...er....i mean, skin a possum', I'll be back and adress the rest of you lib numbskulls later!
Hayo said...
You call that "I'll type real slow so I don't fuck up"? You sure are very talented at making yourself look stupid on the internet.
Ok, I will reply in your language, mr dumb steelworker:
[chili mode]
OMG!!@ YOUS CALL tAHT A REPLY?!?!
HAR HAR HAR!! YOU DIKCHEADED REPUBLIKANB!!!!!11 ALSO I DON"T
GIVES A FLYNUNG FUKC ABOUT WHAT ME
SURNAM MEANS IN TEH USA!!1!ALSOAND YuO
DON'T HAVE TO BE AFFREAD TO BE SHOT
BY MEE CUZ I AM NO GUNLOVING
YANKS!!!!11 WHAWHAHAHHAHAHA!!!@
[/chili mode]
I do believe thats quite enough, you are a racist moron and I can't talk with you. I have been working with some real dumb children as a teacher, but they would beat you all in any discussion. I wish you all the best, and be sure to reply on this, I won't read it, I am going to listen to some Neil music now and I don't want nasty people like you to spoil my fun.
Much love,
Hayo
said...
Hayo, you do realize you are partly to blame for these two idiots still hanging around, right? You keep feeding the trolls with inflammatory posts that are almost as bad as theirs. Why don't you give it a rest already? If both Mr. Man and Cold Bowl have no one giving them any attention, they'll leave and take their inane and incitive comments with them.
Sigh... Frankly, I wish you'd all leave Thrasher's Wheat, period. No one wants you here, and you're obviously not Rusties, since true fans of Neil wouldn't be picking petty fights with other fans. Furthermore, if you (and I'm directing this at Cold Bowl primarily) really were a fan, you wouldn't be attacking Neil for his new album. Instead you would realize he has a right to his political views (just like we all do), and you would stop complaining. Fat chance of that, though.
said...
Neil was very articulate in the interview.Reading some of the right wingers views you would think he was a raving leftie.
Many musicians are beginning to speak out now and rightly so.
Rock and roll has always been left field.
For christs sake,bush would need an autocue to reply to questions.
How can you support a President as insane as this one ?????
Dionys said...
If you argue with a fool you run the risk of being taken to be one yourself.
(old bavarian proverb, learnt it from an American living in Canada).
In the meantime there are wild speculations about possible tours with CH, CSNY & Lost Dogs or even an European fall tour of Neil Young with Pearl Jam. Now this is "innaresting", Hayo, myself and a lot of other people having no problem with the exercise of free speech rights no matter what side of the Atlantic could have a nice get together at a Neil Young concert. And you can rest assured everybody in that crowd would sing along with every chorus on that record. Neil Young might have backed some values promoted by conservative politicians and parties but in Europe he's perceived much differently, perhaps because his occasional conservative tendencies are not taken that seriously. Perhaps because he incorporates what many Europeans secretly admire about "typical Americans": A sense of independence, a sense of rebellion as a right to every individual. And after all, what's wrong with family values and farmers? Nobody would call him a redneck or other bad names in Europe. Reading all this and some on other lists covering this political record my impression is that some Americans are not very experienced in political debates. As a matter of fact one gets the impression that in the US it is downright impolite to discuss politics with strangers. Now I see why ...
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Anon-what a fricken Jerk ytou are .....for the 10 millionth time- you libs are HYPOCRITS!
Can't you see it? you need to self examination!
Stay with me here this is you...."if stupid Chili would just relize Neil hads a right to free speech...etc etc....)
THEN YOU TELL ME TO SHUT UP AND LEAVE?
now, I ain't no rocket surgeon, but that make YOU a fucking hypocrit, (and a little prick).
Hayo Van Smelly-I can see right threw your boeny ass-
Your a winpy little boy that teaches school to children and then refers to me as a "Retard" and that you teach "dumb" children. I think your in the wrong business.
And what do you have against IRON works hmmm?
I'm not an iron worker dipshit, I'm not to saure there are many left over here.
Go eat a DANISH" get it? Go smoke some dope and escape your pathetic l;ife you weasil shit! Chili has tried to be nivce tou you, but NO! Eat me Stinky boy!
said...
I'm sure all of you across the Atlantic would love a Neil Young tour. Here is what the bill would look like; Neil young with special guest the Dixie Chicks. The Hundred Voices Choir Directed by Harry Belefonte. Special intermission guest Speaker; Ward Churchill. And if your lucky maybe Michael Moore will tag along and offer a few words of wisdom.
said...
cool, I'd buy tickets for that one.....heheh
said...
"Stay with me here this is you...."if stupid Chili would just relize Neil hads a right to free speech...etc etc....)
THEN YOU TELL ME TO SHUT UP AND LEAVE?"
You just don't get it, do you? No one cares that are you politically conservative (me least of all, since I swing that way myself), and no one cares if you disagree with Neil over the politics of his new album. What people, myself included, object to is your juvenile manner of getting your point of view across. You seem to have NO respect for the other posters on this site. You call them names, you provoke them, you condescend to them ("you liberals never learn," that sort of thing), and you seem incapable of expressing yourself toward them in a way that isn't combative. You are a textbook troll.
Thing is, I doubt anyone here minds that you think Neil's new album is politically misguided. Rusties tend to be pretty open-minded when it comes to Neil's body of work. What they mind is your dismissive manner in regard to THEIR opinions. Every comment you've made on Thrasher's has been vitriolic and immature. For example, here's one of your first:
"Neil is misinformed like the rest of you pacifists that have no idea how our plantet works. War has been her, it will always be here-get used to it.
and another thing....it is Aiding the enemy. You peace nicks out there that think your really making a difference make me puke. You just help our enemy, now more than ever-"
So people who disagree with you make you "puke," are enemies of the country, and "have no idea how our plantet [sic] works?" How respectful you are toward the political views of others! Since then, your comments have gotten steadily worse until now they consist of nothing but insults like "fucking hypocrit" [sic], "little prick," etc.
Something else I object to is your posts are no longer even about Neil! They're just about liberal Democrats in general and the left-leaning posters on this comments page. You seem to have forgotten the reason you started posting here in the first place: to criticize Neil over his politics. Instead you're just going on and on and on about how foolish and idiotic everyone who disagrees with you is. If the differing view points of others perturb you, why not go to a conservative forum? Why stick around here, a Neil Young site, trolling?
said...
Another thing, I mentioned that Rusties are open-minded about Neil's albums. We are. None of us see eye to eye on his works. Some say his 80s albums all suck, others say they have their good points. Some love his acoustic work and nothing else; others are Horse fanatics who get bored by his folk "dalliances." And some of us agree with the politics of his albums, while others don't. I have no doubt there are a few Bush Sr. supporters among Neil's fanbase who thought his criticism in "Rockin' in the Free World" was erroneous. Likewise, more than a few Rusties were riled by his seeming support of Reagan. We all have our preferences in regard to his albums, and the same goes for the politics of said albums.
I am 100% sure not all of Neil's fans are thrilled by Living With War. I'm sure a few are Republicans who support the President (like myself), and think the whole "impeach Bush" message is misguided. But you know what? Most of us are still going to listen to the album. And we don't go and criticize Neil over it when we haven't even heard it yet. And say we do listen to the album and think it sucks. Well, we criticize the music (and the politics) in a CIVIL manner with other fans. We don't condemn those who liked it and Neil for making it, something you seem so fond of doing.
said...
NY just "thinks" he is living with war...somehow I think that he wasn't around when 9/11 happened...why haven't we had more incidents? Have you forgotten 3000 people in the World Trade centers? Where are the terrorists now?? It's easy to criticize Bush when you're not the one making the decisions. Don't even get me started on Michael Moore, he is sooo out of touch, trying to blame a store for selling bullets....and preying on children who were shot and wounded at Columbine to make a buck. I just want to know how people in this country have become such cowardly sort of Americans? My father fought for NY's right of free speech in WWII...People no longer have any pride, ethics or morals in America. People have to watch reality tv to have a real life....and listen to celebrities so they can have an opinion...I don't think anyone wanted to make the tough decisions that George Bush has had to make. Celebrities aren't any smarter than anyone else and this is not the "free love" days anymore and the "make love not war days" are over! Wake up NY! 20 million Mexicans are here illegally, do you think there aren't any terrorists lurking in the crowd?? Just push for your Liberals to get into office and wait for the terrorists to bring war in your backyard! Then NY can sing about the bad guys in the White House and Michael Moore can whine about bullets, etc....NY is very disrespectful to the President! I wonder how in the world we have so many American Citizens who want to see America fail? Helloooo! You live here! If America does fall all you liberals will not get to eat out or watch tv anymore and no one will have any money to buy NY albums or Michael Moore films. I really don't want a President that has such bad judgement to prey on young women and has illicit sex flings in the White house. I think I know why NY's album comes in a brown paper wrapper, isn't that the way porn magazines come in the mail? Maybe NY knows he should be ashamed!
said...
Ok, that was pretty funny..
Linda said...
This looks like the thread for in which to vent. I feel pretty good. Wheres the place for that?
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
WAY TO GO! RIGHT ON! that "anaoion" that is just 3 posts up from this one, he's good!
the one above that, I'll call him "Kofi-Anon" he worked very hard on hios post-I'll give you an A-, but here is MY point.
I'm simply using the same crap Libs Spew out "I have a right to say what I want!"
That last statement is not completly [sic] correct. You can't holler "FIRE" in a crowded theater, we can't use the "N word etc etc. Get the idea?
And what CHili doesn't like, is people bad mouthing the "COMMANDER IN CHIEF" whilest were "Living with war". If you dumbasses would put the bong down a second and look at history, condeming our leaders during a tine of war HELPS THE ENEMY!
Christ almighty you guys are lame brains. It almost CAME...REAL CLOSE to happening TO Mr. Abe Lincoln, it most certainly happen in Vit Nam [SIC] and if you cowards get your way, it will happen today.
Let me ask you "do-gooders" this onme....if youi were watching the news, and a report JSUT comes in stateing that "Osama's followers are in disarray! they think the war can't be won! they are calling for Osama to step down! The popular Sheep Folk Abraneil Osayoung has JUST released an album calling for Osama to step down!
Would'y that make you feel real good inside? I'd be giddy! well THAT'S HOW THE FUCK THEY WILL FEEL YOU IDIOTS! DUH!
bUT IS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER ANYWAY KNOW WHY? CUSE YOU LAY LIBERAL FUCKS want US TO LOSE THE WAR SO YOU CAN'T GAIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN WE CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND PLANT FLOWERS AND HAVE ALL THAT CRAZY CRAP YOU LONG FOR.
YOU WANT US TO LOSE-ADMIT IT! Bush's success means you have less of a chance, so, FUCK YOU!
Chili A REAL AMERUCAN [sic]
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Chili apologizes for the spelling in that last post-it was terrbile even from his low standards. I have put my contacts in and can see the keyboard somewhat, and I'll try to make it at least phonetically correct next time....
you should get the idea of what I was spewing however.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Posted: April 22, 2006
7:10 p.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
A New York rally by the Islamic Thinkers Society outside the Israeli consulate yesterday featured chants of "The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real holocaust is on its way!"
The demonstration by the Queens-based group was monitored by the Investigative Project on Terrorism whose members noted signs including "Islam will Dominate" and a picture with an Islamic flag flying over the White House.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
CHILI FOUND THIS ONE..."FRESH HATE" this is the second 1/2 of the protest! Perhaps they can get Neil to play for em'?
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49865
The chants were in Arabic and translated by the Investigative Project on Terrorism, headed by Steve Emerson, a former reporter for CNN.
Here are some excerpts from the chants:
Leader (in Arabic): "With our blood and our lives we will liberate al Aqsa!"
[The rest also respond in Arabic:] "With our blood and our lives we will liberate al Aqsa!
Israeli Zionists What do you say? The real Holocaust is on its way"
"Takbeer!"
Response: "Allahu Akbar!"
"Takbeer!"
Response: "Allahu Akbar!"
"Zionists, Zionists You will pay! The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
Israeli Zionists You shall pay! The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real Holocaust is on its way!"
"Israel won't last long ... Indeed, Allah will repeat the Holocaust right on the soil of Israel"
"Takbeer!"
Response: "Allahu Akbar!"
said...
testing 1-2-3
Dionys said...
I do not care very much about the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore or Ward Churchill, although I know about all of them or at least have some idea about these people.
I do care about muslims, who have been, without discrimination, more or less called terrorists on this blog.
I do care about Mexicans (read: Non-Anglo Americans building and cleaning American homes), who have been again without discrimination called illegal immigrants.
I do care about Europeans who like Neil Young's music.
If we do not care about all these people, I think the result will be that nobody cares what Americans have to say. And another thing: while some Americans might still have the power to make everybody hear what they say, they in wide parts of the world lost the power already to make everybody listen to what they say. So, all of you postmodern McCarthys, hiding in a circle of wagons, you should be proud that somebody's listening and caring about your problems and making a record about it.
said...
I'm not so sure about this one....
it's released so quickly right after the last Album AND movie?
Neil is going through some changes very rapidly and there appears to be some odd behavior-for example:
*releases a "pop" CD-with tunes that will make a large portion of the audiance happy.
*Releases a "pop" movie, playing all his "hits"-again. pleaseing the entire public.
* Selling off acreage on the ranch? over the years, he has always aquired property!
* Considering "out sourcing" labor to China to compete in the Model Train business, since he hires UAW help now that are busting his balls.
* now releasing a controversial CD and doing CNN interviews....???
I don't know, but it sounds like he may short of little cash right now?
Hayo said...
"Hayo, you do realize you are partly to blame for these two idiots still hanging around, right? You keep feeding the trolls with inflammatory posts that are almost as bad as theirs. Why don't you give it a rest already?"
I do realise, but I feed whoever I want to feed. I ask you to read all comments above, as I just pointed out Chilis knowledge of history is pretty shuffled, and the fact he can't make other people change their minds. Then he started to make fun of my name. I just took the chance to do some tests with a patriot dude like him as I need it for something I am working on at the moment. Also I don't think mr Man is an "Idiot".
And yes, I did try to give it a rest now, which was pretty obvious from my last post. Thanks for bringing me back once more, whoever you are, and I can assure you I am a real Neil fan, from "everybody's rockin'" to "are you passionate?". I don't see how being a Neil fan has anything to do with being kind to retarded racists.
For any other comments I make here I won't use my real name, and I will just give my opinion about the subject instead of defending opinions. And I do that for you, anonymous.
said...
Libs (Hate America First crowd) just don't get it. This is only the beginning of the war.
Don’t take anyone’s word about what Islam is about, find out for yourself. Please study the Koran and the teachings of Islam. It will scare you; remember the Satanic Versus? The idea that there is a moderate Islam is a Myth!
The tenants of Islam are clear: Deception, conquest, subjugation and conversation to Islam or death. There is no middle ground, no tolerance in the Islamic worldview.
Gays, Women, Christian, Jews, Buddhist, Atheist et al; Wake-up before it is too late.
said...
All,
I will not be posting here in the future. (collective sigh of relief)
My I suggest that you moderate your own and not only those with differing opinions.
It seems odd that you will allow and not be critical of Lazerlou, who is obviously a poltical hack for the DNC/Moveon.org, but will trash serious persons questioning Neil's motivations and timing behind the release of this album.
These are serious times and require serious persons. Not entertainers and demagogy.
Sincerely,
Mr. Man
PS Hayo is a good sport and gentleman. Maybe Lazerlouse could learn a thing or two from Hayo on this thread.
said...
Mr. Man,
You are insane and angry and violent. I think you are the same person as Chili, because anyone who actually reads Chili's posts knows he has serious psychological problems. I don't think anyone but Chili himself could come to his defense after reading these posts.
said...
I am not Chili and my issues are valid. You just attacked me personally with no provocation. This is either Linda or LazerLouse. Thanks for helping to further define my earlier point.
All the best,
Mr. Man
said...
Ms. Woman,
Don't be stupid. We know cold Bowl of Chili is Mr. Man. The idea is to avoid responding to him, not to provoke him further.
said...
Wow. You're right! They are the same guy. Who else is so psychotic they would announce to a thread they are stopping posting. That is fucking creepy.
t.ogle said...
Dionys, When I read your posting from this morning {4/24/06,10:56 AM, I just about puked. I must tell you I don't care what people on the other side of the pond think about America. No matter what we do or say, its never enough for them. In case you have forgotten, it was muslims who attacked us on 9/11. Therefore guilt by association. If they want to clear their name, it is up to them to do so, not me or any other American. You just don't get it. Appeasement will always do one thing; it makes the aggresser more aggressive. You can't talk to these people, they have a death wish. I say give it to them. For their sake I hope Allah has one big ass hand. As for the mexicans, the operative word here is illegal. Its not hard to understand. You want to come here, live, work, raise your family, thats great. All I want is that they play by the rules. Thats all. Not much to ask is it? As for hiding in a circle of wagons, I out here in the open, and awaiting your response, should you wish to do so.
Best Regards,
T.Ogle
said...
T.ogle = Chili (toggle - get it?)
Don't respond! He is sick. Stop feeding the troll and he goes away.
t.ogle said...
To anonymous; Thank you for your response. Very funny, although I'm not like Chili. But if you wish to in the future to: A.} Follow the Koran, and B.} Speak Spanish, by all means feel free to do so. Or maybe you all ready do. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a hockey game to watch. Oh you my friend can call me Tom.
Enjoy your evening.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
FUCK YOU!
this is Chili you stupid shits! Do I sound Like Mr. Man or Ogle? you just can't take it cause you can't beleive that more than one person doesn't agree with your fricken wsted view on the world!
there are LOT's of chili's and Mr Mans and Ogle out here, it's what I've been trying to tell ya dumb asses!
Your so stuck on your crappy views that you can't think for a moment that we have numbers on you lib pukes- WE DO! the press that has helped wapred your views is alos leaving you with the illusion that most American's think your way. NNNNNNNOT!
Come on down here to the great South Eastern United states where REAL Americans reside.
Oh yeah, somethin' for you Muslim lovers to ponder, your fuckin' California is LOOOOOSing polulation, even with the influx of ILLEGAL (that's right ILLEGALS. Your doomed, your Demoncrats have blown it for you and you will continue to lose power, not matter even If Neil has lost his mind and sided with you on one issue!
BA BYE Loser-
CHILI! (Mr. Man has great spelling and grammer-how in the FUCK could you think we were one and the same dummasses!-not that I give a shit!)
one pissed off Chili!
said...
Chili/T.Ogle/Mr. Man, your act is up. Sorry. You have to do a better job at disguising yourself. Now go away. PLEASE. You are pathetic.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
It's all Jimmy Carter's & Bill Clinton's fault!!
That's right! Absofuckinlutly.
Iatollah Takes our hostages-0good Americans workin' at our Embassey in Iran-for you stupid libsa, that's Sovergn American Territory. Dickhead takes what? around 100 hostages right? A FUCKING ACT OF WAR! RIGHT THERE-WAR! BUT NOOOO mR. "iMMA pUSSY" jIMMY cARTER "NAGOTIATES" WITH THE FUCKIN' TERRORIST, GOES ON FOR YEARS, HE FINALY APPROVES A BOTCHED MILITARY PLAN- SHit! the Day Reagan take over, BOOM- rreleased-cooincidence? I think not.
OUR ENEMY KNOWS ABOUT YOU PUSSY DEMOCRATS! George Herber Walker Bush, exicutes a PERFECT, and I mean PERFECT war on Iraq! does everything to a tee. Here's where you lame ass Libs say "he shoulda finished the job!" -
Answer:
He could kill Sadam because the UN action plan (which you fucks pushed for because of Viet Nam) called for hi REMOVAL FROM KUWAIT! Once he ded that, it was "inapproporiate" to chase them back to Bahgdad and kill sadam.
Anyway, skipping to the Jerk Bill CLinton, we got all this food and medical Aid, that cost more to ship back here than to just leave it. That EVIL HORRIBLE REPUBLICAN BUSH, thought it made sence to give the food/medical supplies to the starving peoiple of Samolia.
Nice guy huh? No good dead goes....anyway, all is well, except fuckin' Al Kaida is all over Samalia now and they start taking the shit right? We have a skirmish in which I think about 18 of our fine young hereos are killed in action, bodies mutilated in the street on TV.
Now Our Boys don't take kindly to it, and want to go KICK SOME RAG HEAD ASS! your dickhead Clinton, has Monica suck his finger, he sticks it in the air and worries about his "poll" numbers and brings the boys home rather than kickin' thier ass!
Cutting and running NEVER WORKS LIBS! Don't you get that?
So Osama see that all he has to do is inflict a little damage, show it on TV and America runs away like yellow bellied Liberals. And there you have it! You PUSSIES ruin everything. aren't you so proud! You dope smokin' fools that can't run a bong shop let alone a war!
We've been paying the price of Jimmy Carter for 30 years! The man who Never met a Dictator he didn't like!
your losers! your party are losers- shut the fuck up and let the Adults run the world!
Damn you can piss off Chili! Oh and another thing-Chili don't need nobody to speak for him! I do just fine on my own! I'm definatly an original like nothin' you have ever known and no matter what you think I'm like-WRONG! I've been toying with you from the beggining you smart dumb assed Libs-YOUR EASY!
said...
I’m a big European fan of Neil Young’s music but I can’t follow everything you Americans are ‘discussing’. I think some of you may need to lie down in a darkened room for a while (mind you some of it is damn funny!). America is not a perfect society but what society is? It’s goals are generally admirable and a lot of the world look to America for leadership. The few Americans I have met seem to me genuine people who are very Patriotic, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Certainly in world affairs that old US Presidential saying should apply – ‘Speak softly and carry a big stick!’.
We’re living in uncertain times and I can’t work out why. I’m no historian but I know the Islamic culture has been around for centuries and there have been skirmishes with the Christian world throughout history. It is real bad at the moment and shows no signs of improving. I can’t quite get my head around it, are they trying to dominate us or are we trying to dominate them? The Islamic way of life is so completely alien to us in the West that it is difficult to comprehend. The Muslims pray to their God Allah constantly throughout the day and have some (to us) very strange practices. It is not the type of life I would want to live but it is their culture and who are we to say how they should live there lives. I can only assume that the Muslims are content with their lifestyle and don’t wish to change it. I can’t immediately see a way out this problem. We want to avoid all out war with these people and maybe we need to negotiate with the Islamic fundamentalists (if they will) so that we can all live in this world as we want to live in it.
Oh by the way, I’m sure the new Neil Young album will be great!
t.ogle said...
Just wanted to let everyone know; CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour 2006 this summer. I recieved and email this morning. If you subscribe to the CSN newsletter, each Tuesday for the next 4-5 weeks, you can purchase tickets on line at 12 noon before they go on sale to the public. The tickets are for select shows and will change each Tuesday. JUst wanted to pass this on in case you had not heard.
Linda said...
Mr. Man suggested Mrs. Woman might be me. Just here to say, No, that wasn't me. I wouldn't write like that. I'm not interested in making accusations and fighting in here.
:-)
said...
"you're just pissin in the wind"
Neil Young said that
try to keep things in perspective.
said...
Chili, stop trying to pretend T.Ogle is someone other than you. Or do you both just like to puke when you read something you don't agree with? Freak.
said...
Dear Linda,
My sincere apologies for my earlier post accusing you of being Ms.Woman. Obviously you are too much of a Lady to have made such a statement..
All the best,
Mr. Man :)
t.ogle said...
Dear Anonymous, I can asure you that I am not Chili. My spelling is much better then his. I am wondering who you are? Maybe you're Howard Dean or Michael Moore. Perhaps Tim Robbins, or even Neil himself. Any way here is a joke for you. While Clinto was President, he leaves for his morning run. It's winter time, and there written in the snow; Clinton Sucks. Bill wants a full investigation. FBI, Secret Service et al. A few days later the Secret Service returns with news. Mr. President, we know who committed this act. First we analized the snow and the urine and it belongs to Al Gore. That SOB Clinton screams, I knew I could not trust him. What else do you have?, asks Clinton. Well we analized the hand writing and Mr. President; it's Hillary's handwriting.
Best Wishes for a
pleasent evening
said...
Chili and Lazerlou are one and the same.
said...
Think about it....Chili and LazerLou have the same viciousness, decorum and weird since of humor.
I have been looking over these post for 6 days now and I beleive that Wheattrasher and LazerChilli are in cahoots to stir up controversy on this tread. IOW - It's all about traffic hence cash.
Yes. It saddens me also. But, if you pay attention to the three (buffoons) It is plain as day. Visit their websites, read how they interact. We have all been set upon each other like dogs...And, some took it hook line and sinker.
Do not post here or they win.
said...
Think about it....Chili and LazerLou have the same viciousness, decorum and weird since of humor.
I have been looking over these post for 6 days now and I beleive that Wheattrasher and LazerChilli are in cahoots to stir up controversy on this tread. IOW - It's all about traffic hence cash.
Yes. It saddens me also. But, if you pay attention to the three (buffoons) It is plain as day. Visit their websites, read how they interact. We have all been set upon each other like dogs...And, some took it hook line and sinker.
Do not post here or they win.
said...
Yes, we should be afraid of lslamic fundamentists.
But we should also be afraid of christian fundamentalists.
There sits one in the white house, he is even born again!
Let's impeach the president a.s.a.p.!!
said...
I'm so glad Neil Young is putting an album out that gives voice and expression to the way a lot of people feel here in America and even in the rest of the world. The cover art is pure Neil, eye-catching and thought provoking. Way to go Neil!
Lazerlou said...
Let’s impeach the president for lying
And leading our country into war
Abusing all the power that we gave him
And shipping all our money out the door
He’s the man who hired all the criminals
The White House shadows who hide behind closed doors
And bend the facts to fit with their new stories
Of why we have to send our men to war
Let’s impeach the president for spying
On citizens inside their own homes
Breaking every law in the country
By tapping our computers and telephones
What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees
Would New Orleans have been safer that way
Sheltered by our government’s protection
Or was someone just not home that day?
Let’s impeach the president
For hijacking our religion and using it to get elected
Dividing our country into colors
And still leaving black people neglected
Thank god he’s racking down on steroids
Since he sold his old baseball team
There’s lot of people looking at big trouble
But of course the president is clean
Thank God
said...
God bless Neil Young!
I'll put money down this will be his best album since "Rust Never Sleeps" -- who knows, maybe better.
Anwyay, you Cons are hil-freaking-larious!
C'mon, this is Neil Young, this is rock'n'roll. You think those two things are friendly to conservative agendas, to establishment politics? Ridiculous. Neil Young is an old hippie, he's The Old Hippie, the guy who hot-wired a pick-up to get Jimi to the stage at Woodstock, the guy who wrote about "four dead in Ohio," and the artist who made a rock-play about killing a cop ("Greendale"). Sure, he's changed his mind now and again, voicing support for Reagan in '80 and getting behind the Afghanistan invasion in 2001 (hell, who didn't support that -- very few). But overall, Neil is decidedly an old hippie, not in love with war, not enamored of the war machine, and most definitely not for attacking Iraq, a country which had nothing to do with 9-11. You Cons are an ignorant bunch, from not knowing exactly who we're fighting and why (it always seems to come down to, "Kill towelheads -- towelheads bad!"), to not even understanding who Neil is. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
Anyway, I can't wait until the new album! Screw Dubya -- Let's Impeach the President!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
CHILI HAS BROKEN DOWN WHAT COULD BE NEIL'S WORST LYRICAS OF ALL TIME....(I HAVE NOT SEEN THE REST OF THE ALBUMS)
Let’s impeach the president for lying
**NEVER LIED, HAD BAD INTELLEGANCE LIKE CLINTON BEFORE HIM**
And leading our country into war
Abusing all the power that we gave him
**NOT ABUSE-HAD FULL SUPPORT OF THE HOUSE, SENATE, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE**
And shipping all our money out the door
**?? LIKE OUTSOURCING? HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER**
He’s the man who hired all the criminals
**DELAY IS INNOCENT BEFORE PROVEN GUILTY**
The White House shadows who hide behind closed doors
And bend the facts to fit with their new stories
Of why we have to send our men to war
**HE LAID OUT A MULTITUDE OF REASONS TO FIGHT IN THE VERY BEGINNING**
Let’s impeach the president for spying
**SPYING ON TERRORIST, LIKE ROOSEVELT, CARTER, & CLINTON**
On citizens inside their own homes
**OH PLEASE....**
Breaking every law in the country
**EVERY LAW NEIL?**
By tapping our computers and telephones
**NOT THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO DO SO***
What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees
**I GUESS NEIL TALKS TO LOUIS FARRIKHAN**
Would New Orleans have been safer that way
**THE MOST CORRUPT CITY GOVERNMENT (DEMS.) IN THE NATION**
Sheltered by our government’s protection
**WELFARE??**
Or was someone just not home that day?
**FIRST RESPONDERS MUST CALL IN THE FEDS-THEY FAILED**
Let’s impeach the president
**NEVER GONNA HAPPEN**
For hijacking our religion and using it to get elected
**OH PLEASE.....**
Dividing our country into colors
**THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE MOST VILE DIVISIVE PARTY ON EARTH**
And still leaving black people neglected
**NOT SO, MORE & MORE ARE BECOMING REPUBLICANS**
Thank god he’s racking down on steroids
**THAT WOULD BE CONGRESS NEIL-DUH**
Since he sold his old baseball team
**HE DID SELL IT, THE 1ST THING HE GOT RIGHT SO FAR**
There’s lot of people looking at big trouble
**VALERIE PLAME?-A DESK JOCKEY FOR THE CIA**
But of course the president is clean
** HE IS-2ND THING HE GOT RIGHT**
t.ogle said...
WOW!!! The lyrics to that song might be worse than the Last Trip To Tulsa. Brian... Brian... You should really be more awake the next time you want spew such crap. 4AM is much to early for you. You think you have us "CONS" figured out don't you? As a conservative Iam not "enamoured" with war or the "war machine". Having said that, those who wish to do harm to our country must be dealt with. I'm not for "killing towelheads". But I am for getting rid of the ones who want to destroy our country. This is not that difficult. Look at what they've done in Egypt this week. Its these "towelheads", as you call them. killing their own. How sick is that? as I said in a previous posting, they have a death wish. I say "Give it to them". I'm still going to a Neil fan, and always will be. My veiw is this is the wrong message at the wrong time. Here is a piece of history for you. In 1962, when Bobby Kennedy was attorney general, he approached JFK about his distrust of MLK and the civil rights movement. Even though publicly the Kennedy's were all about the movement they did not trust it. JFK asked Bobby what he wanted to do. Can you guess what his reply was? Bobby wanted to SPY on MLK. And he did with the FBI and CIA. Just Something to think about eh Brian.
Regards,
T. Ogle
said...
No reason to knock 'Last Trip to Tulsa'....
Boy Ole' Neil sure knows how to stir a controversy, 170+ comments.
said...
Exactly....."Last Trip To Tulsa" is a freakin' masterpiece....especially the electric version on "Rarities"
The CSNY tour should be innarestin'. 2 album's worth of new material from Neil and the Crosby-Nash double album, lots of new material, and live! Can't wait to hear it...
t.ogle said...
Horsewifnoname, I apologize for that comment. After I posted, I put the CD on a listened to it. You are right and I was wrong. Hope you don't hold it against me.
Regards,
T.Ogle
dr_nadsky said...
Most of us (60 plus percent) agree with Neil about where the country is headed. But we don't have Neil's talent with words and music. Maybe, just maybe the Bush administration will listen to Neil, God knows they aren't listening to us common folk......
THANKS Neil
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
NAaa Ogle, Last trip sucks! Unless indused by LSD, the song is a was of wax.
He's not all perfect. That's one LTTT, I'm not a big fan of.
Sometimes Neil throws mud on the wall and see's what sticks.
Oh and to add to your MLK Democratic hypocrisy, don't forget that it was the REPUBLICANS in Congress that put fourth the civil rights bill, voted FOR it, and All LBJ had to do was sign it and the Demoncrats STEEL all the credit-VOMIT!
it's this type of stuff they won't admit too, that THEY are the ones that are "racist" (to use their term) not the Republicans.
They keep Minorities down with their welfare gifts and Equal Opertunity crap.
It's like this, really quite simple Democrats/libs, listen closely to Chili.
If you put a warm bowl of milk on your front porch every night, your bound to find a cat that laps it up.
He no longer needs to hunt mice, because you provide the milk every day.
Take the milk away-the cat will hunt.
Welfare is a disservice for those that are able to work or find an education. the libs are soley responsible for the dimise of minorites in this country. they BUY their votes and keep promising them everything, but never deliver.
The point where MLK tolk his followers that the democratic party was thier friend, was the beggining of the end for them.
Democrats can count on their votes every election-so they give them nothing, republican can count on NEVER getting their votes-so they give them nothing.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
heheheh- hey OGLE read this! it's over for our commie socialistic Libs!
'PROGRESSIVE' MEDIA STALLS: 'AIR AMERICA' IN AUDIENCE PLUNGE NYC, 'DAILY KOS' BOOK SELLS ONLY 3,600 COPIES
Wed Apr 26 2006 11:39:51 ET
Left-leaning new media has hit turbulence at the marketplace, newly released stats show.
A book hyped by major media as documenting a progressive revolution of "blogs" and political power, DAILY KOS 'CRASHING THE GATE,' has sold only 3,630 copies since its release last month, according to NIELSEN's BOOKSCAN.
[NIELSEN claims only 2,062 copies of DAILY KOS have been purchased at the retail level; the rest coming through 'discount' outlets. The NIELSEN figures do include online sales from AMAZON.COM, and others.]
Meanwhile, the just released radio Winter Book [Jan-Mar 2006] from ARBITRON shows AIR AMERICA in New York City losing more than a third of its audience -- in the past year!
Among all listeners 12+, it was a race to the bottom for AIR AMERICA and WLIB as mid-days went from a 1.6 share during winter 2005 to a 1.0 share winter 2006.
During PM drive, host Randi Rhodes plunged to 27,900 listeners every quarter hour, finishing 25th place in her time slot, down from 60,900 listeners every quarter hour in the fall.
A network source says the radio ratings released today do not reflect the overall growth of the broadcast.
"The demos are better, and listeners trust AIR AMERICA to give them the real truth on issues and the Bush presidency," says the insider.
Developing...
said...
Is Thrasher dead or something??
t.ogle said...
Chili, Thanks for the information. You are absolutly right about our left wing friends. The sad thing is they all think that this is a democracy. while you and I and Mr. Man know that its socialism under the veil of democracy. Its so bad here in Maryland that the state legislature, {all Dems. by the way} have overridden every veto that our republican governor signed. They want to give convicted felons the right to vote, but would not vote for mandatory minimum sentences for child sex offenders. This kind of crap has got to stop. The Air America stuff was great. Maybe all those listeners switched over to Sean Hannity.
See Ya,
T.Ogle
Mr. Man said...
Chili,
How does one contact you, if you do not maintain your BLOG!
Mr. Man
said...
This is one of the greatest site. I got into neil at 12"After The Goldrush" was my first. I can say pretty much I am obsessed with Neil. He has the courage to stand for himself. He is so into enviroment because he has 2 sons and a daughter. i have a 15 year old. i cannot believe people say "it's all publicity"?? in all his time in front of the audience evven with Epilepsy, he wanted to make a show a good one. he will speak his mind whether u like it or not. and the "go back to your own country" is such a racist remark. me being Asian/French i was teased so much. i wish i had a strong mind like Neil. I have to see you, and no scattering ashes for another 40 years. I love you and Long may u run and speak your mind!! peace,Tia
said...
How can anyone say mean things about Neil when he has done so much for us. Just knowing he's no racist pig make him more sexy. his ultimate love and devotion to his 2 boys, 1 severe with Celebral Palsey that he took 5 year off to care for them. how many rock & roller do u hear about say that.Transformer man is written with the 2 boys in mind. All I can say is puleez let me meet a man like Neil. he is a unique individual that makes his stand out no matter where he goes. I cant wait for the Album. long may you run Neil. My sis remembers when i was 12, writing "I love you Neil" on the cover/. and still do that. isn't that a shame. Peace and let us speak our mind, that is why we are in America, the land of the free to express yourself.
Tia
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Sorry Mr. Man.....
THIS JUST IN! MADONNA AND NEIL-two pees in a pod!
Madonna radically altered her music to attack US President George W Bush during her appearance at California music festival Coachella, yesterday.
The Hung Up singer thrilled fans with a six-song set in the Sahara Dance Tent, and took a cheeky swipe at the US leader by changing her song lyrics.
During an energetic rendition of her song I Love New York, Madonna roared, "Just go to Texas and suck George Bush's d**k."
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Hey TIA- I'm sure Madonna will do ya!
YUCK!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
MR. MAN-
Blog up and running- Sorry dude!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Mr Man & Ogle,
I will have a private E-mail address for the both of you tonight when I get home from WORK! you hear that LIBS! WE WORK! We're not out on Illegal Mexican Day, we CONTRIBUTE to you maggots out there suckin' off the guvamunt teet! (that's a breast you Califronia Libs!)
said...
Chili, we know that Mr. Man and Ogle are you. But do you understand that or do you suffer from split personalities? Nobody likes you Chili. Maybe you should step up to conversing with real people, not charaters you make up in your head or create in April 2006 on blogger. You are one sorry human being to pretend like there are other people who are interesetd in exchanging ideas with you.
t.ogle said...
Anonymous, How many times do I have to say that I am not Chili. Just because I may have the same perspectives on politics as he has, does not mean he is I and I am he. As for your comment that "Chili is one sorry human being" is pathetic. What gives you the right to judge a man when his opinions differ from yours? I guess because mine opinions are the same as Chili's, I a sorry human being as well? Don't get personal. There are more of us out here than you can imagine. People are tired of the bullshit being spewed by liberals. If you want to express you thoughts that great. I respect yours and you should respect others, no matter how over the top they may be.
Larry the Liberal said...
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Cold Bowl of Chili said...
what do you mean "Over the top"????
Chili is right on target-I just say it like it is baby!
t.ogle said...
Chili, Poor choice of words on my part. Meant to that you are right on top of it all. The Libs. just don't get it and probably never will. How can I contact you outside of this blog?
Regards,
T. Ogle
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
hit that blogger thingy and shoot me (no punn intended) and e-mail.
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Where did Lazer-Goo Go?
I need a supository!
Cold Bowl of Chili said...
Check this out you "progressives".....
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright insisted Tuesday that Sudan never offered to round up Osama bin Laden and extradite him to the U.S. - saying President Clinton's claim to the contrary was "a misstatement."
Asked about Clinton's 2002 admission that six years earlier he had turned down Sudan's offer to extradite bin Laden because "he had commited no crime against America," Albright told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes": "He was not [offered]. He was not."
"If you look at the people who were saying that, there were many people who were lobbying for Sudan," she claimed.
But in a Feb. 2002 speech to a New York business group, Mr. Clinton detailed the episode, explaining: "We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America."
Clinton recalled that he "pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."
Asked why her old boss would make such a startling confession if it wasn't true, a flustered Albright told Sean Hannity: "Well, because there was movement. But believe me, if we had been offered Osama bin Laden then that offer would have been taken up."
The former top diplomat insisted that Clinton simply got it wrong, explaining: "What's been very hard is kind of a misstatement of a lot of facts on [the Sudanese offer]. Look - we worked very hard to try to deal with the terrorist issue. It was very different before 9/11."
I suppose because she appeared on FOX, they doctored the audio, because like Neil says, Bush Blew up the levees in New Orleans, and was likely responsible in the death of JFK and likely Natalee Halloway's disappearance????
heheheheh Where is LAZYLOU?
answer this one oh great brillain lib!
said...
I'm not going to get into the political debate and I'm not even going to talk about the cover art! I just listened to "Living With War" online and I'm here to say it's GREAT to hear Neil picking up Old Black and playing ROCK'N'ROLL again.
Don't get me wrong. I thought both "Prairie Wind" and the new movie were awesome. But I was afraid that Neil had forsaken loud, raunchy, electric music in favor of his folkie side. I'm glad to see I was totally wrong and that he can indeed still kick out the jams. As someone said over on the Telecaster Discussion Forum, "Neil's at his best when he's noisy."
said...
I've heard the new CD... it's okay Neil can do better
JonB
said...
You can't really claim to be a true Neil Young fan if you get angry with him because he uses his talents as his forum to communicate his feelings. His feelings generally match ours, which is why we identify with and like him, but not always. Which is also why we should like him and respect him. The fact that you so blindly follow your leaders, even when it's obvious they are wrong, lends credence that you too are "flip-floppers" by saying you USED to love Neil Young and now you don't. Whether you believe the man speaks the truth or not, he speaks (sings) knowing that not all will agree. If this were some lame-ass attempt to make money, which I've never heard anyone that supposedly loves and knows Neil say, then they really don't know Neil. I imagine he makes the music that comes to his head and doesn't really give a rats ass if you think it's crap or not. In fact, sometimes after awhile he thinks it's crap too I imagine.
I imagine most people wanted to support their country and president and struggled with the decision to go to war. Felt forced into by the actions of fanatical muslims, but when does it stop? When do we go to far? We rightly go after the terrorists in Afganistan and yet we don't stop there. Now we're in a mess in Iraq with no seemingly way out and Iran scared we are going after them next and threatening the world. Do we have to go through this for another 10 years, waiting for enough people to die and students to protest and presidents to change to end this thing? Even today most conservatives I know, don't say Vietnam was a mistake, they say it was a mistake that we didn't fight to win. That mentality still exists with this war and after enough of our soldiers are brought back in body bags finally somebody will take notice and try and stop it. Then we'll fight each other. Who's right, who's wrong?
I'd rather be happy than right.
MarkLav
said...
I absolutely agree with you MarkLav. It's still the same old song and dance after all these years. Those who run this government today never did learn the definiton of insanity--doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We have to live with them just like we have to live with this war and those out in the world salivating and waiting for us to to make a typographical error so they can storm us. But who's actually the cause of that scenario. On many levels, isn't it not we ourselves? "Hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by love." Some people never got that when they were growing up. Me included.
So when will this insanity end?
I've always been a fan of Neil Young. Like him, we were looking around, and perhaps hoping that someone in this current generation would have the conscience to speak out just as he did in his younger days. But this is not a condemnation here. Not at all. I think we're all just as culpable as we have been misled. As you say Martinlav, sooner or later it just gets down to us fighting more and more among ourselves as we see the world go up in flames.
Will we then be able to sing, "We had a chance to change our minds?"
I'm seeing a lot of movement with the release of LWW. Yesterday I heard the entire album on our local radio station. Neil's given us the gift of a voice and a conscience. Now we can raise hell.
said...
I used to like Neil Young when I was 12.....some people grow up and some don't. Neil is stuck in "Peter Pan Syndrome".
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