NEW SONG VIDEO: Neil Young's "Casting Me Away From You"
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62 Comments:
Gotta love the timing here.
The 1st song released for new "Second Song" album is title track "Second Song".
And now the 2nd song released for album is "Casting Me Away From You".
amusing
Another old song from the mid 60’s that never came out, and now recorded with The Chrome Hearts. It’s a beautiful song that captures early Neil, yet was only recently recorded. This band captures the spirit perfectly, and Neil’s vocal sounds incredible.
At first I thought it was an unreleased recording from the Harvest sessions, or something from that era, but then read the description saying it was recorded earlier this year. Truly amazing.
Another great video of him driving with his dog Timer on the old ranch. Such a remarkable place. I find it interesting that he chose two older songs to release first from the new album. From the description it sounds like the newer songs are pretty long, so it feels like we have some new adventures coming in the near future. Can’t wait to explore them in September.
Peace to all 🙏
Just a small correction. The original version of the song was released on Archives Vol 1, Disc 0 - Early Years. Track 8. This updated version with the Chrome Hearts is better, imho.
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Thanks Dan & Knowledge Nomad. I appreciate your words.
All the rest of you all:
Got a comment? Something to say? Only 5% of traffic on this blog comments. We want to hear your thoughts. Rust never sleeps.
your rustie grain brother Alan in Mendocino
Can't comment as I am writing up the recently discovered ancestry of Sgt. Pepper in Palatia: During the 19th century brass bands from the westernmost territory of present-day Germany have been extensively travelling in Britain, playing in sea-side resorts, in London' s music halls and beyond (also in the US wherever there were German immigrants) thus becoming the forefathers to some of the music created by those four guys from Liverpool when they had to re-invent themselves as a psychedelic and nostalgic band in 1966/1967. No Neil content with the exception that Neil and Sir Paul are friends and that there should be a whole Neil Young record consisting entirely of Beatles covers.
A Day in the Life
All You Need is Love
Imagine
I Saw Her Standing There
Blackbird (I know that's Stephen Stills singing it)
I am not sure there are a few more as Bob Dylan songs covered by Neil Young keep popping up in my memory. They would make up for another great record btw.
There is a certain irony that the song Casting Me Away from You is released the same week that the Delulu Don scores another own goal by further antagonizing and pushing away the closest ally of the US. Neil posted his take on this sad development on the Archives under the Canada section. Well, at least the US still has friends like [checks notes] North Korea.
Alan, et al:
Okay, I’ll bite.
First lemme just say I recently deleted a comment I had posted re: the warm up show in Bridgeport (don’t think I’ve ever deleted before?). After sleeping on it I felt like a first world whiner. Plenty of fans deal with logistics and I could have also. Second, I recall the sting of disappointment when NYCH shows were cancelled in Port Chester NY (after Poncho’s bus door boxing match). I had pit tix & rooms booked. I was shooting fer the rail w/ some close friends. I feel for fellow fans in Europe & elsewhere this summer. It just didn’t sit right with me complaining when I still had a chance, a choice…
The other thing is I sent a letter to Neil, via NYA, asking him to consider dropping the column that Michael Cohen, T Rump’s (former?) fixer, posts on his substack and is reposted on the NYA site. Cohen is, imo, a flip-flopping, self-serving, whining con artist. I realize it’s Neil’s site & he wanted to come off as “Fair & balanced”. Cohen is neither. He pretends to have “first hand knowledge of T Rump’s inner workings” but has revealed via his suck up radio show he is still firmly entrenched in Team Trump when he just recently had taken T Rump’s call on air.
I know. Don’t read it. Ignore it. Move on.
But I cannot. It just does not make sense to me.
Full disclosure: I voted for T Rump the first time around. I even called Neil out when he did not defend T Rump as president, the first time around. I was wrong.
I asked Neil to put it to an Archive member polling.
I know I am very frequently off topic here and this is no different.
But Alan is right. I have responded & commented so many times, just to proof re-read and not hit send.
Lastly, to everyone lucky enough to attend the warm up shows and/or Farm Aid live & in person
Enjoy the Shoe! 😎
My daily comedic relief from the madness:
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As always, thanks everyone for contributing here.
On or off topic. It's all one song, all one comment, etc.
Actually, Neil has been accused often of recycling riffs, lyrics. Which is certainly ok if you wrote to begin with. Artistic appropriation and all that.
Plagiarism is never especially with zero disclosure.
Lifting something and providing full credit is somewhat gray. Obviously here @ TW we do that quite often. For 30 years we've blogged stuff and never once had a complaint/issue. Actually, we did have one item that we removed by author's request. Sort of odd given that we helped sell dozens of their books via AMZ links.
Anyways, we look fwd to hearing everyone's stories here. Whether Sgt Pepper or cartoons or NYA stuff. Bring it on.
Freedom of speech and all that good stuff.
The NYA Looks different today on my hphone? Anyone else seeing things differently?
So for me this second song from Second Song is not quite up to the standard of the first song Second Song from Second Song. (Hope you're following :-) ).
Nice enough but pretty straightforward melody, arrangement and lyrics. A familiar line in its midst - "We found things to do in stormy weather". Enjoyed the video too but feel like I've seen it before somewhere.
Second Song, which is actually the fourth song on the album Second Song, is on a different level in my humble opinion. I think it's my favourite Neil song in many years, although I find it hard to explain exactly why. I have been listening to it a lot and it just keeps getting better. Something about it that I find hauntingly beautiful and quite moving. The melody and the lyrics just seem to fit together perfectly, and although its 11+ minutes long it always seems to finish too quickly. The lyrics are simple but not simplistic, and not too direct, at least at first. The song seems quite straightforward to me up to about halfway, but then it takes a few twists and turns and the closing lyrics are quite a surprise. Neil's voice sounds great and I love the way he extends the last words on some of the lines. Some beautiful harmonica parts too.
I'm very much looking forward to hearing the other songs on Second Song.
Improved Times Contrarian - per NYA
Happy bday Michael Cohen!
Now, please fuk off!
Being a frequent NYA reader I skip the Cohen column most of times. He keeps repeating that line of "I've been on the inside..." ad nauseam while I - being on the outside in more than one aspect - already had enough witnessing that side. Such are the burdens of so-called free speech, I am afraid. Out of fear of being challenged to not respect so-called free speech online-editors, administrators, and webmasters are driven through their very own arena by the nose-ring. And now back to Sgt. Pepper's Brass band.
And that is why I proposed to Neil to put it to a vote amongst subscribers.
It’s his ball.
I suspect most NYA fans are tired of Cohen’s duplicity.
@ Dionys - "Out of fear of being challenged to not respect so-called free speech online-editors, administrators, and webmasters are driven through their very own arena by the nose-ring."
Ok, we read this 3 times and not quite grasping the point?
Surely you can't be suggesting that freedom of speech is bad?
Sorry if we’re misunderstanding.
Thanks Ron, good points.
And totally following the sequencing logic.
And really hope the new album has a few more water washed diamonds to share.
Thanks Thrasher
I was half hoping all the tracks would be called First Song, Second Song, Third Song etc :-)
But it begs the question, if Second Song was the second song that came to him what was the first song?
One last time: absolute freedom of speech is an idiocy because if a party or a government decides to "flood the zone with shit" (i.e. hatred, racism, bigotry asf.) the damage is done even if there is a majority speaking out against the flood.
Freedom of speech is a child of the age of enlightenment which already back then and always puts restrictions and limits to the exercise of this concept (see Kant's well-known essay about "What is enlightenment?" read the complete document, not just the popular first paragraph). Two hundred fifty years later we are looking back at two experiences.
The unlimited optimism of the 18th century in a overly complex modern society had to make room for the cautious and constant "enlightenment of the enlightenment" (see for instance Niklas Luhmann's system theory) which demands among other things that the assumptions behind things, institutions, laws, rule etc. always have to be put in question, scrutinized, evaluated in order to make them transparent and keep up their original function.
The historical experience in my country that absolute freedom of speech can be used (and was used in this case) to establish a dictatorial system with absolutely no free speech emphasizes the necessity to discuss the limits of free speech. The first German democracy did not die in darkness, it died in plain sight and in broad daylight ... and so did the Washington Post as an indpendent news outlet
In that light herbsworld's proposal (a vote by the NYA recipients regarding M. Cohens daily tirades) to me appears being a healthy approach because it would combine free speech with a political will to give a direction, i.e. exercising power to limit the abuse of a right.
The laissez-faire attitude which allows or even offers a platform to those responsible for the erosion of democracy and its rights such as free speech gives more weight to a singled-out right, than to the system that is able to guarantee this very right. I believe I have said that before: the liberal attitude to discuss breakfast with a cannibal bears all signs of political suicide by accident or laziness in political thought. Not seeing this is what I figuratively call being led through the arena ("Neil Young: "the circus was his") by a nose-ring (a ring used to control a potentially aggressive bull by constantly exercising pain, i.e. the shit flood). Even if you are a journalist, a website owner or a newspaper editor it is not your foremost duty to tolerate this crap or create the image of a balanced presentation as long there are many other outlets providing opportunity to balance your own views. Just a list of weblinks titled "The other side" would do.
Maybe one can agree on a bottom line: The right to free speech does not include being heard everywhere, day by day, and on endless repeat.
I am really struggling with this Sgt. Pepper story: did the (German) brass band tradition and the fab four's head on dive into circus music inform the Beatles' paradigmatic turn in 1966/67 or is it just that I discovered a musical tradition which eventually became part of the European musical mainstream that after a collision with American sex & drugs & rock 'n' roll begat the Beatles and subsequently their seminal psychedelic album?
Dionys: One slight correction to my proposal: Subscribers (as in paid). Not merely recipients (free). I don’t want to pay for the “privilege” of Cohen’s insight, wisdom (or lack thereof).
You cannot expect a response from Neil unless you are a paid subscriber. Therefore…
Anyway.
It is a slippery slope, free speech.
Nothing is free. There is a cost associated with everything.
I really do appreciate what Neil Young does with his Times Contrarian. If nothing else, the mere fact that he allows us ALL access to several sub stacks (normally behind paywalls).
The cost there maybe that it’s his ball, circus, monkey or bull ring. He gets to choose what gets re-posted?
Btw (unrelated to NY)
I do like your analogy of breakfast with a cannibal.
I agree.
re: paid subscribers. I was not sure, but re-reading your post it says "members", that would be paid subscribers. That makes sense of course.
Translation to those who are unsure: Free speech is great as long as you agree with me, otherwise we have a problem with it.
Meanwhile, RIP to Dolly Parton. One of the greatest Americans of the last half century. Maybe give her version of After The Goldrush a listen in tribute to a real fine lady.
www.leavingmaga.org
As always, we appreciate your perspective Dionys.
Definitely healthy to get the wider view from abroad as we Americans tend to be a bit fixated on local events around the neighborhood.
Thanks on the Kant reading as well as Niklas Luhmann. More fodder for future our discussions.
Likewise, we direct you to our foundational texts:
- John Stuart Mill’s argument in "On Liberty"
- John Locke's "A Letter Concerning Toleration"
As you know, these views on freedom of speech were so critical to the U.S. Constitution that they became the basis for our 1st Amendment rights.
The logic being that all other rights flowed from the most fundamental freedom of all: expression/speech/writing/communications.
It is the reason why free speech is our most cherished right here in the U.S.
Try as some might to infringe on this right, trust us, that TW will always support it no matter what.
ps - keep us posted on the trials and tribulations of Sgt Pepper.
peace
Thanks Richie. It's a brilliant cover masterfully executed. See
https://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2026/08/dolly-parton-1946-2026-after-gold-rush.html
Kant clearly rejected any "absolute right to freedom of speech." Clearly there are important issues here. Consider opinions voiced by the Tate brothers about how women should be treated like sex slaves? This gets all over the cesspool of social media and young frustrated and angry men find what they say agreeable and then they "spread the word." We have a serious problem with misogyny and this kind of speech makes it worse and so it makes our society and culture worse. Likewise with all the misinformation spread about vaccines and now we have a rise in cases and more deaths from disease. The responses I hear to this are: "let the other side argue their case and the best arguments will win in the marketplace of ideas." Bullshit. All rights have limits. Overtly misogynistic speech should be limited or simply ruled out through careful legislation. Our cultural slide into the gutter keeps getting worse because of totally irresponsible speech. Remember what Austin argued and formalized, we can do things with words.
Oh, Michael Cohen is a complete schmuck.
I love this song from the 60's.. It could have made it to Comes a Time. Huckleberry Neil at his best. I am really looking forward to this new album!
Democracy requires a virtuous public which we do not have.
Good luck to anyone who thinks they can tell Neil he should run a poll or ballot on what should or shouldn't be posted on his Website. They should expect a pretty short reply I think.
Hey, maybe they could try writing to Elon Musk and suggest the same approach to him for X.
Thanks? Ron. Didn’t “Tell” anyone to do anything.
Maybe you don’t know the difference…I asked.
Don’t post or follow X.
Not a fan of Musk.
In 2022 I asked that the then recently changed header "Minorities" for a page on the TC (before it was called BLM) be changed because the page covered issues that were not "minority" items but covered indigenous contexts. Many indigenous societies strongly object to be labelled as "minorities" for many good reasons. Neil Young responded to my letter by explaining that he could not come up with a a better word for the scope of issues covered under this header, but a few days later the header was changed again and read "Americans" now. So I imagine there must have been a discussion within the archives team about a better answer to my contribution. As a first reaction I was about to propose "Northamericans" but then I felt that would be nitpicking. All this to illustrate that politely asking indeed is not a futile undertaking when communicating with NYA and its Editor-in-Chief.
It appears to me that ‘Free Speech’ has been kidnapped by ‘Hate Speech’. And I believe that’s happened because America has been suffering dearly over the past several decades by an increasingly aggressive case of entitlement. And this entitlement has brought this country to its present state.
True freedom is only possible when everyone is free. Unfortunately the human race is incapable of making this a reality. The ego refuses to peacefully coexist with itself, so our sense of entitlement has allowed us to accept hate speech as free speech, and these should not be mistaken for the same thing.
If free speech is even possible anymore, there needs to be a distinction between two. And we aren’t willing to accept that fact.
Peace 🙏
Exactly. My thought here was maybe Neil is so busy with artistic endeavors that he maybe is not so aware of Cohen’s duplicity?
And, maybe, he is not as aware of how his fan base (that support the Archives) feels about Cohen?
I am not opposed to hearing a counter point.
But Cohen’s approach is blatantly, obviously, self serving.
I have always found Neil’s responses to be, well, “responsive”. Dismissive at times with a curt “Be well, Love Neil” but even that response takes time and thought - even if it were to be a “cut & paste”.
Just the fact that you can communicate with a musical legend, idol, hero who remains actively aware of his fan base AND is incredibly busy is beyond amazing. I would never take that for granted.
Nor would I presume to “Tell” him how to run his affairs, as suggested in an earlier response.
I was appealing to Neil’s sense of democracy by ASKING & SUGGESTING putting it to a vote amongst paid subscribers. Or all fankind.
I’m good either way, honestly.
Dan,
Richie(Rich) Cruz summed it up perfectly:
“Translation to those who are unsure: Free speech is great as long as you agree with me, otherwise we have a problem with it.”
Unsure if Richie is self aware?
Or aware of any/ALL of the control this current Admin is exerting over Freedom of Press / Free Speech?
In the form of mis informative Press Conferences, restricting Press Passes, The dismantling of “Stars And Stripes”, “60 Minutes”, ignoring the Sherman Act (especially Billionaire news/media control - Bezos, Ellison, Murdoch, Musk) or just by simply labeling Anything you disagree with as Fake News…which is worst of all, really. Leads you to doubt everything.
No matter the source.
Free speech is not free.
Especially if unavailable.
leavingmaga.org
Lol. Your boy Delulu Don is such a famous free speech warrior: tries to sue anyone who disagrees with him (latest example is his lawsuit against the Center for American Progress for their report that has the audacity to disprove the false claim that Nat Guard deployment in DC has lowered crime rate), fire military personnel and pressure academic instructions to censure their employees if they dare to discuss seriously the impact of climate change or argue for the need to redress inequities through DEI policies, attack students who believe Palestinians are people deserving of rights, or threaten media outlets who criticize the government.
What we know is that you never met a nuanced, complex issue such as the parameters of free speech you couldn't reduce to simplistic platitudes.
If free speech is so much under attack and dying in our current administration, you could fool me, because it sure seems like everyone who posts here has the ability to say whatever they want.
And the news media and the late night talk show hosts and the people with nothing better to do than 24 hour protesting sure seem like they have the ability to rail against Trump. I'm not seeing anything that's stopping any of them from doing any of that.
You guys do realize that in a truly fascist state, NONE OF THAT would be happening, right? I mean, if Trump is really a Nazi, he's not a very good one.
Meanwhile, here in California they just passed a law preventing independent journalists like Nick Shirley from investigating government fraud in the state. Basically saying that the government will not allow anyone to expose fraud....from the government. Hmm, sounds a little like fascism to my ears, but what do I know? I'm not a college professor.
@ Dan - again thanks for dropping by with calm, careful words in these times.
which we all need more.
for the most part, things have been civil here @ TW.
we thank the NY community and we are honored to be here.
...and we all are together. ...
come together
right now
over us
Thanks for basically proving my point.
1) Delulu Don's success (or lack thereof) at his efforts to squash speech he doesn't like doesn't disprove that he is indeed trying to do just that. If he fails in some instances, that is thanks to the continued existence of people and institutions who will stand up to the threats and a still functioning legal system to some extent. But not everybody can afford to defend themselves against frivolous lawsuits. And, people have indeed lost their livelihoods (see for instance Dr Adam Kalkstein who was fired from West Point academy for teaching about climate change. Kalkstein, incidentally, identifies as being politically conservative).
2. The CA law you reference, A. B. 2624, is an anti-doxxing measure to protect people who work for institutions that provide services to immigrants. It is an extension of already existing protections for people who work in institutions that are also frequently subjected to harassment and violence (women's shelters, providers of reproductive health) and it's been around for 30 years. (see https://calmatters.org/politics/2026/04/nick-shirley-bill-privacy-protections/ for non-partisan reporting on the issue) Can you expose fraud without doxxing someone? I think you can and don't believe protecting an individual's privacy in such instances constitutes an infringement of 1A rights. But that requires some appreciation for nuance.
Don't need to be a college professor or even college educated to be able to think critically.
While it's unfortunate that Kalkstein lost his job, West Point is a military school which, rightly or wrongly, means there's a different set of rules for its professors to follow. I'm sure Mr Kalkstein will have no problems finding another university to work at where he can discuss climate change to his heart's content.
As far as California and Nick Shirley go, I could care less how you want to frame it. There are MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars going to fraud in all kinds of areas in California government. I don't see how you can deny that. It's a corrupt, fraudulent mess of a state government there, and if some people have to get exposed to fix it, so be it.
By the way, I wonder how you would react if Trump passed a law preventing independent investigation of fraud in his administration. Something tells me you might be a wee upset, but when it's your side, then it's "how dare they!".
See, more than likely your IQ is much higher than mine, but at least I'm not a hypocrite. Which I'm pretty sure you is....
Let's recap, for the sake of clarity and to see which arguments (if you can call them that) make sense:
1. Dionys argued that free speech should not be absolute. That there are legitimate instances where it is wiser for society to place limits.
2. Richie simplified this to claiming that this was a case of "free speech for me, but not for thee," implying this was hypocritical.
3. I pointed out that the current President and many of his followers aggressively seek to curtail speech that doesn't fit with their ideology (or in the case of the very thin-skinned president, shed negative light on him).
4. Richie did not dispute that campaign against free speech, but suggested it's not been very effective, so no biggie. So much for a principled stand. He went on to say the real violators of free speech are CA Dems who want to squelch independent "journalists" who are attempting to expose fraud.
5. I noted that the case cited merely proves the original point made by Dionys: there can be reasonable limits to free speech. The world is complicated, not least when competing rights that we hold dear conflict with one another. A law that prevents the doxxing of individuals so that they can do their jobs without fear of being threatened by people who think their job should not exist strikes me as a reasonable trade-off / limit. But, sure, reasonable people can disagree, and I've no doubt Nick Shirley and his supporters will try to have the law ruled unconstitutional, as is their right.
I also pointed out that whether the administration is successful in limiting free speech or not, they are clearly trying to and that has not been disproved. I then cited one case (among many) where they have succeeded.
6. Richie's response: the cited case happened at a military institution, so different rules apply. Moreover, the affected individual will be fine, so again, no BFD. Hmmm... sounds to me like you're suggesting that free speech can have limits and that the principle is not what matters, but rather how well the victim will be in the end. So free speech for me, but not for thee?
He then switches the goal posts to suggest that I deny the existence of fraud in the CA government. Folks, I invite you to point out exactly where I say that (spoiler: I didn't). He lays out plainly the overriding concern here is exposing fraud, not free speech per se. As I clearly indicated, cases of alleged fraud can be exposed without endangering the lives of the people you are investigating.
Finally, I'm accused of being a hypocrite. The evidence? My assumed position on a hypothetical case. I'm more than willing to accept that I am a hypocrite in some respects in life. I think that's likely a part of the human condition, again because people and the world are complicated. But, in this particularly instance, I don't see it. If the hypothetical law involved a ban on doxxing, I would support it. I don't think my political opponents should have to live in fear for their lives. Nobody should.
So, there we have it. I'm confident I will not have persuaded Richie that he's not really making the solid argument for limitless free speech he thinks he's making, but rather quite clearly proving the original point, which is that it's contentious. I also suspect he is unaware of the bait-and-switch move he tried: refocusing the argument about whether free speech should rightfully have limits in some instances to, by golly, we gotta get to the bottom of this rampant fraud by whatever means necessary. Nevermind that whatever means necessary includes jeopardizing the privacy and safety of people who ought to be considered innocent until proven guilty (oh look, another principle that could conflict with other principles). Should we mention here that this supposed concern about rampant fraud doesn't seem to extend to the ultrarich, who are just loving how the administration cut the IRS's ability to enforce tax compliance down to the bone, leading to an estimated loss of revenue of $2.4 trillion over 10 years (Yale Budget Lab)? Sounds like fraud investigations for me, but not for thee, but I digress.
Anyway, no doubt Richie will respond that I'm a long-winded egghead. Can't really argue with that, but neither do I care. Happy Friday!
That's the spirit KM.
Free speech... use it or lose it.
We appreciate not descending into the abyss.
Stay calm, respectful and grounded and we all just might graduate from these times.
peace ✌️
Was watching the video for Casting Me Away on the NeilYoungChannel on YouTube earlier and there are a lot of comments that the melody is the same as Emporer of Wyoming. I think they're right!
Sometimes I post too quickly. Can we rewind just a bit. What precisely is meant by the "absolute right to free speech" or "free speech as an absolute right"? Either way, it won't work. We already have all sorts of limitations to free speech both codified and not codified. In a democratic society, we often need to rely on the sound judgment of groups and citizens. We cannot always rely on the rules and the laws: in fact, we should endeavor to improve on the rules and the laws in our personal conduct. There is no question that racial slurs qualify as hate speech. They are attacks on the dignity and worth of persons. When we use those words we act immorally. (In art, fiction, and some other contexts, the use of those words may not be immoral, and we should be able to rely on the good judgment of persons in these cases.) I think this is enough said.
Ron, I think you are right!!
Wow so many off topics but I'm the only one asked to move his post. I saw him in that old yellow convertible. Right at the 92 summit at Skyline . I even know where he was going into the City for a book signing . He had what I'm guessing is the illustrator with him. If memory serves it was Greendale I think. Just passing on the highway. He had to yield before merging. I still lived north of HMB then. Montara.
ENOUGH! The post label here is re: Neil's re-release of a 1965 tune...NOT the pros and cons of free speech. This has descended into a finger-pointing mess. Am I wrong? Thrasher, this happens A LOT on this site. Perhaps a sidebar for those who wish to climb upon their respective soapboxes....
"Here we are now, entertain us!"
(but maybe you read how the whole thing started before yelling "Enough!")
Where is your contribution to the post label re: Neil's release of a 1965 tune? I can't find it.
Maybe you missed the past post that precipitated this journey down the rabbit hole?
“Got a comment? Something to say?
Only 5% of traffic on this blog comments. We want to hear your thoughts. Rust never sleeps.”
As in real world convos that often stray the path.
Words. Between the lines.
FWIW: I don’t think much of this “new” old song. Filler. Neil said as much himself (more or less).
I often choose not to engage in the “sidebars”, as they’re already 50 comments deep by the time I see them. In this case, others have been far more eloquent in saying what needs to be said.
Whether it’s Kant, Lock, Hobbs, Marx, or Marks and Spencer (obscure John Lennon reference, sorry), I question relying solely upon older authorities to answer today’s questions. That doesn’t, of course, mean throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I’m just adding a note of caution re: appeals to authority.
On Neil’s 1965 song, I’ll be honest… in my wildest dreams, I had dared hoped he might revisit “The Rent is Always Due” instead.
Still, all the demos from NYAI have plenty of charm. Personally, I enjoy hearing them in embryonic form.
Addendum: I’m not disputing the relevance of ideas others have brought to the discussion. My comments are written with a general readership in mind, not academic specialists. 🕉️
@ Chris- we do hear you and others.
As suggested, throw your hat in the ring. Exercise your rights here.
We often find the irony amusing. Perplexing. Like a satirical comment section.
Yes, definitely the subject at hand. Tangents are welcome. But the Tangents need to Bridge.
Lastly, we repeat yet again, if the rustie grains community can have a civil debate, world peace is in our grasp in this lifetime.
Hahaha...looks like I hit a nerve...I have no problem with free speech.
When I read thoughts under specific heading and they nosedive and take off-ramps into deep thinkers like Marx, etc. and blah blah blah...to me...it has nothing to do with the song which is what people ought to be expressing under the label/heading. I was just suggesting to just stay in your lane if possible. I wanted to read others thoughts on the SONG, but, it's not my blog.
NOW. I love the song. The tune sounds to me very much like "Leavin' the Top 40 behind". Kind of a nostalgic look back at young love. That's it. I look forward to the albums release!
Thrasher- Not sure how exhaustive commentary (tangents) bridged to anywhere on political and social thinkers of the past 150 years is pertinent to a 1965 song...perhaps the deep thinkers can illuminate me.
And...thanks for a wonderful platform to my favorite musical artist. Very much appreciated!
Looks like you got the professors and philosophers riled up at you. Don't let it get you down, it happens to me all the time here. I consider it a badge of honor. They get mad when you think for yourself.
I can get this place spinning like a top with just a sentence or two, which is usually followed by endless paragraphs of nonsense in response. Mainly telling me that I don't quite understand the simple points that I make to get their heads spinning.
Anyways, this new song doesn't do much for me, as has most of Neil's recent output. Although "Second Song" had me nodding in approval for sure.
@ Chris - thanks for sharing thoughts on topic at hand.
Lennon quote taken from Serve Yourself, one of the home recordings. Other sources attribute this to McCartney.
Different opinions on the song. One thing I remember of being young and feeling like I was "in love." The line, about "leaving me behind" strikes some intense emotions in my heart. Not a trivial idea. Two people who were in love and one is now being left behind....sucks
I was thinking why not "Burned," "Down to the Wire" and "Casting Me away from You" as a trio of heart breakers? Killer stuff in my pathetic musical opinion.
Yeah it stuck me yesterday that Neil must have still been a teenager when he wrote Casting Me Away as he still wasn't twenty when he recorded the version that's on Archives I. Puts a different perspective on it compared to listening to a version recorded all these decades later.
I like the ‘new’ songs a lot!
Dan, lovely to see your comments here again! Thank you my bro.
All of your discussions of free speech impress me.
What a bunch of intelligent music fans you are to engage in critical thinking & manage not to step on anyone. Truly inspiring.
On topic or not, your writing today has filled me with optimism that we, civilization, will walk past Trump with dignity.
New item on bucket list: to visit Lake Ontario & listen to the new Neil Young album there in high res format. .
I am broke AF right now, as the kids say. My bionic hand repair (just some neoprene in a joint) seems to be moving towards a return to work in October. I have not been paid in July or after. Kind of rough.
I was even paying for long term disability insurance & have yet to hear back from them about getting paid. They give themselves 45 days to respond to a complete application (after you have been out continuously for 12 weeks!). It’s like they want people to be homeless.
I recently caught a quick ride down I-5 and then up the US West Coast. Music was not playing. Too few vistas & places unseen. Driver thought he was in the Indy 500.
I used my words to try to help the situation. It helped very little.
If you want to get to know someone, take a road trip with them.
We are all here together on the road trip of life & Neil Young is playing new songs. I find the recycled lyrics to be a tip of the hat to the long ride we have all been on. I appreciate the reused lyrics.
@ wsanjose01 : I used to see Neil in cool cars & Ben in his van when I was riding my bicycle up 2000’ to get to Skyline, thru Woodside.
One time my car overheated (after I swapped out the engine) and rolled to a stop in Neil’s driveway entrance at Broken Arrow ranch.
Went to take a pee & found an old cave with evidence of use by First Nations people (old smoke on the ceiling of the sandstone cave).
I found it incredible to find that without even trying. There is good magic in our love of nature & respect for First Nations people, and to each other.
your rustie grain
brother Alan in Seattle
@ Ron:
“Thanks Herb
We will consider it
LOVE Neil
be well”
😎
All I “ASKED” & more of a response we both expected?
Yes, saw it on NYA Letters today.
Let's see what happens.
@herb With the new batch of letters another one asked for Cohen's self-serving bs to be not further distributed. The answer is that NYA wants to keep it because it's a "viewpoint"....
@Dionsys I did see that letter, though to me their point was somewhat muddled? I think it’s a good sign that there was more than just my letter.
All I can do is all anyone can do. “ask”. 😎
I view Cohen as having very obvious ulterior motives: his own self-preservation.
He was & and continues to be, a T Rump enabler/ apologist.
His posts are daily trite.
I am avoiding his column, but, also find myself visiting the NYA site less often…
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