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Saturday, June 26, 2010

Social Networking With Neil Young

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Last year, we blogged about how Neil Young was being recognized as a social marketing genius. OK, so it was a little tongue in cheek.

But lo & behold, it looks like Neil got off that couch and posted on Facebook:
"i have been thinking about adding vampire blues to my show. but i would rather do it with a band. this is my first posting. thanks for being there."

Fascinating.

Vampire Blues. So timely. So awesome.

We "Liked" it. And so did about 10,000 others with thousands of comments.

Vampire Blues has only been played live once, when Young guested with Eagles on March 26th, 1974.

Neil's FB posting even made news in Rolling Stone, which relayed a rant from Chicago in 1999, about his "internet fans" fromHyperRust:
"One thing I found out on this tour is that the Internet has really changed things a lot. They got this list of all the songs I play. We try and play new songs all the time. I don't ever look at it. I just heard of it. Every night, whatever you do, it's there. I'll probably never look at the damn thing. I might use it for something else. I don't need to keep track of myself. I don't want to keep track of anyone else whose keeping track of me, either. A couple of weeks ago somebody was talking and I went, 'Shut up asshole!' I'm sure it went right up there. That's the Shut Up Asshole show! People in Zimbabwe are finding out what I said. I don't know what to make of all that. Here's another new song for this tour. It's probably only been played once before, maybe three days ago. It'll show up on the graph. They keep track of how many new songs I did, how many old songs I did in a different way. It's just a stupid song."

Welcome Neil! Good to see you. What's next. Start using Twitter?!

More on Neil Young's On The Beach infamous "blues trilogy": "Revolution Blues", "Vampire Blues", and "Ambulance Blues".

Sucking blood from the Gulf of Mexico...


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At 6/26/2010 07:13:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe some of you know archives guy personally, as in "in the flesh"--*I* do not...and if he's that much of an insider, surely he knows that Neil prolly doesn't apprciate info being leaked...just sayin'...as for Neil posting on FB (or mySpace) I'm not yet ready to believe it...

 
At 6/26/2010 07:51:00 PM, Blogger TomCrac said...

Ha...I was at that "Hey Asshole" show...Saint Patricks day in NYC...rough crowd....awesome show.

 
At 6/26/2010 08:42:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...They keep track of how many new songs I did, how many old songs I did in a different way. It's just a stupid song."

Neil, we are as obsessed with your music as you are with cars.

 
At 6/26/2010 09:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thrasher - can you clip off that comment by John Ostermann?

What a *hole

 
At 6/26/2010 09:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The impression has been that everything archives guy has been saying is sanctioned by Neil. None of it is a leak.

 
At 6/26/2010 11:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a hoot!

Neil is not going to post at Facebook.

Anyone who thinks that this comment is truly from NY is smoking the cannabis sativa too heavily!!

B

 
At 6/27/2010 12:00:00 AM, Anonymous punkdavid said...

Archives Guy says it's Neil, then it's Neil. Period. Believe it, or be wrong.

--PunkDavid

 
At 6/27/2010 01:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 9:41 sez "The impression has been that everything archives guy has been saying is sanctioned by Neil. None of it is a leak." HOW does one form that impression? I'm NOT dissing AG or anyone else for that matter, so shove the hostility up yer butt...but why hide behind a pseudonym? anyone "sanctioned by Neil" shouldn't need one...explain it somewhat logically and with some respect and the subject is closed

asg

 
At 6/27/2010 06:43:00 AM, Anonymous Thos said...

I am full of admiration for the ways in which Neil Young has used the internet to interact with his fans.

Firstly there's the elusive Archives Guy who consulted with us about the Archives v1, which directly led to the addition of the mp3 download card with the DVD boxsets and the option to buy individual disks seperately online (the website still exists).

When people moaned (correctly) about how expensive a BluRay system was to purchase, Neil's team acquiesced to releasing a DVD version, even though that meant compromising the very reason the Archives took so long to come out in the first place - sound and picture quality.

Furthermore, some of the press releases have kept us intrigued and blogging for months, even if nothing has actually come of them yet! Toast is the obvious example here, but also the DVD/BR version of Get Around which was mentioned a while back.

And then there's the kind and loving side of Neil Young, where he has played Harvest Moon at a concert because he has been moved by somebody's story here on Thrashers wheat, an unprecedented move from a musician of Neil's stature.

All of this is brilliant, and makes being a Neil Young fan a more exciting experience. But we still like to be surprised by Neil, and I think that him blogging on which songs he may or not play is going a step too far.

I can see that it is a kind, inclusive gesture from Neil towards his fans.

But I strongly feel that, if it were to become a habit, it would actually weaken his position as an artist who is renowned for being deliberatley willful, free to do whatever he likes regardless of whether or not his audience want to hear it!

Why break the habit of a lifetime?

 
At 6/27/2010 06:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom C...the "shut up asshole" show was in Philly at the Tower in 99. I was there and I have a tape of it...ironically, the jewel case is labled the "shut up asshole show"

 
At 6/27/2010 08:30:00 AM, Blogger Thrasher said...

Thanks Thos! Good points. Yes, that's always been part of the mystery with Neil. What the heck is going on. Drives us nuts. But maybe we're at the point where being mysterious is no longer the ends to the means.

@ asg: AG has now switched places with Neil. AG is the mystery guy now. Neil posts on FB.

Isn't it all clear now?

 
At 6/27/2010 08:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

as clear as concrete :)

asg

 
At 6/27/2010 09:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

aw come on neil, facebook is just another distraction. step away from the computer, man. don't ask your fans ANYTHING, just do what you do the way you've always done it.

 
At 6/27/2010 01:24:00 PM, Anonymous BigChief said...

Am I the only one who suspected that the 'Archives Guy' and 'N.Y.' were one and the same? Unless, of course, it's Bernard Shakey or maybe Joe Yankee? ... never mind. Besides, "when you talk about mystique, then you have none" (Bob Dylan to Neil Young prior to the advent of the internet)In todays age of information, 'mystique' is virtually non-existant.

 
At 6/27/2010 01:36:00 PM, Blogger TomCrac said...

Anon 6:52 am...After I had posted it hit me that maybe there is more than 1 time that Neil uttered those words...for me, it was during a Greendale show, between songs where Neil would embellish the tale. Some twit wouldn't pipe down and Neil let him have it. But if there was one official show know as the A Hole show it makes perfect sence to this New Yorker that it would happen in Philly :)...

 
At 6/27/2010 02:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By saying "I would rather do it with a band," perhaps Neil is hinting that a reunion with Crazy Horse may be in the cards.

chris

 
At 6/27/2010 03:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chris, I think you`ve hit the nail on the head there. He would `rather do it with a band` - question is WHICH BAND??!!

Jill

 
At 6/28/2010 04:21:00 AM, Blogger LittleRaggie said...

Glad someone mentioned Crazy Horse. One of their members who is no longer with us has finally received due recognition which has been long overdue. www.dannyraywhitten.com

 
At 6/28/2010 07:46:00 AM, Anonymous SONY said...

Neil Young-IN YOUR FACE!(book)

 
At 6/28/2010 10:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems to me that although in past years (and maybe the past couple decades) Neil usually didn't care to hear audience requests, sometimes he's been open to audience requests ... in fact I thought I read here that during TR I he played heart of gold because some girl was requesting it throughout the show ... And in the earlier days you can hear him asking the audience for requests .... In that vein the fact he's asking fans for their opinion is still Neil being Neil and its therefore not really different ... he's what I mean -- a) He's asking for opinions but in the end he'll do whatever he wants anyway and not worry about what people think, b) he's once again pioneering his art this time by expanding his relationship with his audience through social networking, c) just when we think he'll zig he zags ... so he's being as unpredictable as ever ... If I were a Vegas Bookie and you asked me what were the odds of Neil Young having a facebook page and interacting with fans directly I would have put them at 1:1,000 but how can anyone complain? Neil's reaching out live in another forum, this is one of his coolest innovations ever, if he's going to keep this up we should be celebrating...

And Thos, really enjoyed your post, you made some great points ...

Dan

 
At 6/28/2010 06:22:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I checked out the Danny Whitten site mentioned in LittleRaggie's comment above. On the 'Legacy' page there are some words from Danny's sister Brenda, including this revelation:

"...everyone needs to know "THAT DANNY DID NOT DIE FROM HEROIN". I have the death certificate to prove it. The only thing in his system was alcohol and dizapam (valium) and that was "NOT" a good mix."

I always thought he died of a heroin overdose, even his Wikipedia page says so. Now I'm not sure what to believe. Anyway, I thought it might be of interest to other Neil-heads here.

zach

 

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