Neil Young News: Archives Guy Q&A Session: Wednesday, 5/27

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Archives Guy Q&A Session: Wednesday, 5/27

The Archives Guy is conducting Q&A throughout the week here on Thrasher's Wheat.

We're starting a fresh thread each day for the Q&A.

Yesterday's session generated well over 100 comments. See Tuesday session here and ground rules for Q&A.

Thanks Archives Guy!

More on Everything You've Ever Wanted To Know About The Neil Young Archives But Were Afraid To Ask.

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202 Comments:

At 5/27/2009 07:43:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Good morning AG & Thrasher

Have a great day boys.
At 5/27/2009 07:52:00 AM, Luc said...: Hi AG!

First of all thanks for all the time you spent answering all the questions....sometimes more than once.

I am thinking about buying a PS3 for the archives but I am wondering: if the PS3 breaks for watever reason, will I be able to re-download all the BD-live stuff?

Also (not only for AG)
Does anyone have information on the shipping for the archives. I live in Montreal Canada and paid 29$ for shipping. Anyone know if the brokerage will be done in advance and if they will be shipped through UPS or FedEx or ...

Still hoping for a Pens / Hawks final!

Luc
At 5/27/2009 08:16:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Hi AG,

Will all BD-Live downloads be free of charge? I just read a review of the set in Mojo Magazine which stated that there will be an additional charge. It will be very disappointing after spending nearly £200 on the Blu Ray set for this to be correct.

JC
At 5/27/2009 08:17:00 AM, dolbero said...: Hi AG.
Thankyou for all your pre sale support!
Last week i told you about preview disc not working on sony vaio laptop with intervideo windvd bd well after seeing one of your posts yesterday i got trial version of arcsoft total media theatre it works great!Ican now see timeline clearly (it is blurred on my ps3 SD tv)My ps3 is connected to amp via optical digital cable would sound be better if i had hdmi socket on amp and connected ps3 via hdmi cable?
p.s Do you know if intervideo are going to upgrade their product to play archives as arcsoft media theatre costs $85.Thanks
At 5/27/2009 09:11:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Hi AG!

Apologies if this has been asked previously (I'm sure that it has, but I've looked everywhere and still can't find any of the previous references)

I'm planning on pre-ordering the Blu-Ray version when I get home from work later on, I was just wondering how I go about this with regards to me being from the UK. Can we order from neilyoung.com and have the box set delivered shipped over from the US? The prices listed on Neil's page are all in dollars - is there a seperate page for non-US folk or do we just go through and order as normal?

Many thanks,

AB (Manchester UK)
At 5/27/2009 09:12:00 AM, Anonymous said...: AB,

I live in the UK and I've ordered my Blu Ray set from Amazon.co.uk it's only £168 and free shipping :)

JC
At 5/27/2009 09:35:00 AM, Doug said...: Hello. Just a suggestion for the admins. It might be practical to get a short FAQ out to everybody and implore them to read it. A lot of questions (e.g., "Will I get to re-download everything if I lose my BD-Live files?") have come up a thousand times. It would be best to head them off at the pass if possible.

Thanks, and thanks to AG for patiently answering all our questions over the last few months!
At 5/27/2009 10:27:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Luc-

Yes, you can re-download everything if your player breaks or you upgrade equipment later on.

I'm still pulling for the Hawks , but they need to get The Wall back between the pipes.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 10:30:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: JC-

This came up the other day and is false information.
We have absolutely no plans to charge for BD-Live downloads. It is a bonus that one gets for purchasing BD.

Sure we could sell concert tickets or swag thru BD-Live, but that's not what we are about.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 10:45:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Dolbero-

Glad to hear that this is working out for you.
I've got some inquires in regarding the progress of other software player manufacturers.

I suggest that you use the HDMI cable or analog out of the PS3 and not the optical. HDMI and the analog RCA cable passes 24/192, but the optical will choke the signal down to 24/96.

Please check out the Details on your NYA discs to read more about this.

enjoy
At 5/27/2009 10:47:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: AB-

I don't know much about shipping details, but sent a list of questions to the record company yesterday that addresses these issues.

Shall post the answers when they come in.
At 5/27/2009 10:47:00 AM, zejt said...: the wall came crumbling down AG.
go Wings.
thanks for all input.
My system is ready to go. I would like to ad a Dac to bridge my analogue system. Any recommendations.
Preamp-Magus MFA
Amp-GAS-Ampzilla
Turntable-Wilson Benesh
Speakers-Hiel-AMT
Ps3
Sony-LCD-40V5100
At 5/27/2009 10:49:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Doug-

Good idea and this FAQ will be on our Archives website, when it is launched. We are busily working on it while juggling our other tasks.
At 5/27/2009 10:49:00 AM, Burnzy said...: Hello, Archives Guy...

Was just wondering if there are any other players (with the exception of the PS3) which has wireless internet access compatibility? Thanks in advance.
At 5/27/2009 10:52:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: zejt-

I don't have any recommendations off the top of my head here in the morning before the coffee has kicked in, but given your setup, we'll all be right over!

Let's listen to some vinyl!!
At 5/27/2009 11:01:00 AM, Nick said...: Hi A.G. and thanks,
Just to clarify, for PS3 to a standard TV, analog RCA (red and white) is better than optical for audio?

Thanks
At 5/27/2009 11:03:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Burnzy-

I believe Sony and Samsung have players with wifi.
Enter Blu-ray player wifi in your search engine and a few should pop up.
At 5/27/2009 11:03:00 AM, zejt said...: thanks AG. Neils team for remastering of vinyl is unsurpassed
Live at Massey Hall has to be best sounding piece of wax ever.
At 5/27/2009 11:08:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Hi AG,

Thanks a lot to clarify that for me. I really cannot wait to give this set the once through :)

JC
At 5/27/2009 11:10:00 AM, SONY said...: AG-
From all the Q&A, I'm figuring this must be the toughest gig you've had in a while!?(yeah right)

This Archives thing, intended to be interactive, certainly has the prelude interaction to it. Hats off to all of ya!
At 5/27/2009 11:10:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Nick-

That is correct to maintain 24/192 PCM audio.

The optical cable (also known as TOSLINK) can't support 24/192. It works fine for Dolby, DTS and lower sample rates, but not for hi rez such as 24/192.

Each Archives disc's Setup pages detail this.
At 5/27/2009 11:14:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Man, reading about some of these folks setups just makes me drool.

Can't say I've got a killer setup.

So hope this doesn't sound too dopey, but does the PS3 have headphone jacks?

Maybe I'll cough up the $'s for some nice headphones waiting for the economy to improve.

it's hard to find a job...
At 5/27/2009 11:20:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: zejt-

Thanks. I agree about Massey Hall What an outstanding recording that sat unlistened to for decades.

A bit of background. If you follow the timeline of events, Neil went to Nashville shortly after premiering his new batch of songs during the solo tour that included the Massey Hall show. After performing a solo gig on the Johnny Cash show in Nashville he gathered some studio cats and cut some tracks that ended up on Harvest. This collection of musicians became the Stray Gators.

At this point, Neil was fully devoted to the new recording project and his film, JTTP.
The Massey Hall tape was put on a shelve and forgotten about until this Archive project was underway.

The upcoming vinyl remasters of the first 4 albums are thought, in our circle, to be the finest versions of these records ever heard. You might want check them out, once released. These records will debut the NYA ORS series. (Neil Young Archives Original Release Series)

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 11:24:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Anon about headphones-

Don't be bummed out about your system. My family room still has a old Sony standard def TV, a circa 1995 CD player and a hand me down stereo receiver.
There is always that kid down the block with better toys or a nicer car.

The PS3 doesn't have a headphone out.
At 5/27/2009 11:27:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: more for Anon on headphones-

An economical fix for you is to get some powered speakers and go analog out of your PS3.
There are lots of these make for home computer set ups. the little stereo speakers with a subwoofer are pretty nice.
At 5/27/2009 11:32:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: SONY-

they are all tough gigs. :-)
At 5/27/2009 11:32:00 AM, john said...: Hi Archives Guy,

You must have never ending patience or are banging your head in betwen sessions on this forum! Thanks again Archives Zen Master ! I have come to exercise your powers !

I imagine the technology utilised with the visual part of The Archives,with all of it's interactivity, is more akin to that used in computer games, rather than just Blu Ray films.If so,what outside input was there for this aspect of the multi dimensional Archives.Or was it all done 'in house' ,or rather 'in barn' !

Another thought -are we not limited by the antique nature of some of the recordings,no matter how state of the art they were when first recorded .I state this respectfully,especially
as I was in my teens at the time !

Apologies if this sounds negative,but I was honestly wondering and am no teccie.Also how much audio or visuals can be retrieved or enhanced using modern technology now? Given Neil's storage of the original master tapes,I would think the condition of the original source was not any problem whatsoever. Was there any problem with the condition of any of them,and how was this overcome? An audio visual version of Johnny Magic? Magic Johnson ?! ;0)

I am ready to be impressed,as I ordered the Blu Ray version yonks ago.I also ordered the CD version for the car,keeping it all legal !

Thanks Again,

John G.Rasshopper.
At 5/27/2009 11:41:00 AM, zejt said...: thanks for the history behind Massey Hall AG.
Will Sugar Mountain: Live at the Cantebury House be released domesticly on vinyl.
Can you give us the background on that concert and recording?
What is the story behind the Japanese pressing?
Sorry Thrasher don"t mean to Hijack your thread.
Keep On Blogging
At 5/27/2009 11:46:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: John-

Good questions.

Our work is pretty much in house with a very small production team. Most of the credit to the outstanding look and feel onscreen goes to the brilliant Toshi Onuki who designs and edits most of our projects. He understands the Shakey vibe and uses modern tools to get our much loved funky look.

The success of stretching the DVD format to the extreme goes to our DVD author, Rich Winter and without the incredible talents at MX Productions (who author the BD discs) Blu-ray technology could not have been utilized in the manner we have used it. MX really are the ones who have helps us realize Neil's original vision of navigating while listening.

In terms of original tapes, there are many war stories about how tapes were restored and transferred. Neil's personal studio, Redwood Digital, sets the standard for tape restoration and pristine transfers. Their efforts and skill levels are way above norm.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 11:49:00 AM, the rider said...: I'm curious. My friend told me in order to hear the high resolution on audio, one needs a digital stereo amp with digital speakers. He says with a normal analog stereo and analog speakers, one would only hear the dvd audio at 44 khz. Is this true? Because if it is I will be sad.
At 5/27/2009 11:51:00 AM, Archives Guy said...: Gang-

I will be away for a couple of hours, so if you don't see any answers coming up it is for that reason.

mo' later,

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 11:51:00 AM, SONY said...: AG-

Any of the old tapes need to be "baked" in order to transfer to digital signal? I heard this tenique was used by Tom Petty for restoring old acetates.
At 5/27/2009 11:54:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Note to Anon2 @ 5/27/2009 11:14:00 AM

I hear ya, friend. every week, I learn of yet another acquaintance out of work. Me, dvd set for now.

You might check out local pawnshops and hi-fi fix-it shops for vintage kickass speakers.

Some great gear is available after people were convinced to go for set-ups the size of soup cans. You might be surprised.

Still have big ol' Genesis speakers along with some shelf-size Castles.

Cheers AG & team!

-Anon
At 5/27/2009 11:54:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Thanks AG on the headphones Q.

Yeah, but I'm not sure anyone on my block has a BR, either.

OK, so do any of the recommended BR players have headphone jax?

dbtr w/o a br 4 nya :(
At 5/27/2009 12:24:00 PM, Chris in NOLA said...: Hi all,

First off, a big thanks to AG for taking the time to answer all of these questions! We now all have a much better understanding of what will be in the Archives set and all of the work that went into making it. I just ordered my blu-ray set and can't wait to dive in.

I don't have any questions, but I do have some important info to share about the PS3.

Sony is expected to announce a new cheaper, faster, and much smaller version of the PS3 at this summer's Consumer Electronic Show in Las Vegas. This will be the first price drop and hardware change for the PS3 since it was released.

For those of you that can wait, you may want to hold off on buying that PS3 just yet. If announced, these new PS3s should be available mid to end of summer.

BTW, Neil absolutely rocked the New Orleans JazzFest last month! I hope he had such a good time that he will return to play it again. It was perfect seeing my favorite artist at my favorite music festival in the whole world!

Thanks,

Chris in NOLA
At 5/27/2009 12:39:00 PM, poui said...: AG-

Thanks again, starting to get very psyched...as for me and some other peeps out there, it seems that you can connect a wireless bridge to Blu-Ray Player to access BD-Live without having to run a Cable across the house. Can you confirm this will work. If so, it's a pricier but cleaner solution for those of us w/out PS3s.
At 5/27/2009 12:41:00 PM, DIG IT! said...: I know AG was saying this is NOT the case and I'm sure this would anger some (ok most), but the thought of offering pre-sale tickets for a short time frame exclusively for BD-Live users is pretty interesting. ex: BD users get access for a 1-2 day window before anyone else (presale only).

You could offer up a unique code that could only be used once on Ticketmaster, or purchase tix directly over BD-Live through neilyoung.com.

That'd be an extra little treat for those who forked over the additional cash.

The DaVinci code blu-ray that was just released a few weeks ago had $10 off eMovie cash to see Angles and Demons in the theater. It was only available over BD-Live or by mail...not over the internet.

Any additional reason for people to upgrade to blu-ray is good!
At 5/27/2009 12:47:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hi AG. Thanks for all your contributions here.

Quick question. Given that some of Neil's album tracks will be included on Archives and given that Neil is such a big supporter of Blu-Ray, any chance he will reissue these full albums on Blu-Ray? I'm talking about full BR editions of Harvest, After The Gold Rush, Everybody Knows and Neil Young.

Best of luck with everything between now and launch.

Seldom Herd
At 5/27/2009 02:05:00 PM, Worthless Recluse said...: There's a couple of other serious errors in the Mojo review, despite having been written by Sylvie Simmons, one of the very best Neil commentators (and one of the best rock journalists full stop) for my money. She says that there's over 30 hours of material (a rumour which AG has already debunked) on ALL formats including the CD version (!), but also says that ONLY the BluRay version contains the video content on discs 00-08. She was reviewing the set from promo DVDRs, and it sounds like they may have been similar to the online disc 8 demo, containing only stills to represent the video content. These inaccuracies a real pity because they'll dissuade people like me who can't go down the Bluray route from settling for the DVDs.
At 5/27/2009 02:36:00 PM, BIGCHIEF said...: AG & Luc & anyone else, for that matter, can root for any team in the N.H.L. that they wish however, one thing is certain ... the Detroit Red Wing's will be there for another re-peat!... you don't gotta love them, but you should respect them .. their everything you wish your team was and more !!
At 5/27/2009 02:44:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Uggg...Back Order!
So close and yet so far lol.
How long does this Canadian Boy have to wait.
Truly enjoying the Preview Disc and itchin' for more.
Go Canucks...oh wait, they were out way before the Archives ha!

Thanks for all the time and effort AG and Thrasher.

So many have made this Set possible, I wanted to say "Great work" by John Nowland...just because the boys in the background are as important as "The Boss" in many ways!
LIVE RUST (Roger in BC)
At 5/27/2009 02:48:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: SONY-

For sure a lot of tapes were baked as part of restoring them in preparation for analog->digital transfers.

I don't know why someone would bake an acetate...it might melt.

Learn more about baking tapes here:
http://www.audio-restorations.com/tape-baking/
At 5/27/2009 02:50:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: poui-

Wireless bridge- haven't tried that, but it seems like it would work out.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 02:52:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: DIG IT!

I hear what you are saying and can dig it.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 02:54:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Seldom Herd-

I'll have to give you a press conference "no comment" on that on.

next question?
At 5/27/2009 02:56:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: BIGCHIEF-

Let's face it the Wings are a bunch of warrior man-gods.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 02:58:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Yo Dig It:

Good way to feed the greedy hand beast and totally unfair to fans struggling in the economy, doing what they can to get some form of NYA.

Just saying...

We DON'T Dig It!
At 5/27/2009 02:59:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: LIVE RUST-

what da mean back order?

Yes on props for John Nowland, King of the pristine analog transfer!!!
At 5/27/2009 03:12:00 PM, nicospilmont said...: I went to my favorite CD/DVD reseller today: he told me that the Archives are not scheduled to be released here (I mean in France). However, he will have one copy on the CD boxset and one copy of the DVD set to sell (for a good price, regarding the prices I have seen on the internet), which he managed to order overseas (he did not give me any more detail). Now, I "just" have to convince my wife that I have to buy the DVD set as soon as it is available in store (only 1 copy in the one i visited today!).

Nicolas
At 5/27/2009 03:14:00 PM, SONY said...: AG-
Thanks for the link. Interesting technique. Who discovered that? And how many tapes got wrecked before they got the time and temps right?I think you're right about the acetates. I used the wrong term.
At 5/27/2009 03:16:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Europe order questions:

The record company tells me that folks in Europe can order directly off neilyoung.com.
Additional shipping is added at checkout.
At 5/27/2009 03:16:00 PM, Babbo said...: AG -

Thanks for the clarification on optical output and 24/192. I'm planning on going the PS3 route (love that internal storage etc.), but I have an older 1080i HDTV that doesn't have an HDMI input. So I had intended to get a PS3 component cable and use that for the video output to get the best possible picture quality, and go with optical for the audio. Now I'm thinking I might be better off using adapters to hook up the audio jacks on the component cable to another RCA cable that I can run back into my sound system - am I on the right track here? (Component cable isn't structured in such a way that it can run to both TV and receiver.)

Babs
At 5/27/2009 03:20:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Babbo-

You are on the right track. Extend those audio RCAs to your receiver.
At 5/27/2009 03:20:00 PM, punkdavid said...: Archives Guy,

My apologies if these questions have been asked an answered previously. I've been away from computers for two days, but I had this question prepped for you before that and wanted to make sure you had time to address it if needed.

As you know, I am a Blu-ray PC user, and it has recently been brought to my attention by a Rusty more technical than myself that it may be impossible to play the full 24/192 HD audio stream from a Blu-ray player mounted in a Windows PC.

This is the first article that was shown to me was this one, which discusses the issues with “Protected Audio Path” on PCs playing Blu-ray movies.

http://www.carltonbale.com/2008/11/the-state-of-blu-ray-lossless-hd-audio-in-home-theater-computers/

The gist of this problem is that the AACS protection, a Digital Rights Management code, requires handshake authorization throughout the data stream, and the vast majority of computer components such as sound cards and motherboards (not to mention Windows itself) lack this “Protected Audio Path”. This leads to automatic downsampling of the audio to 16 bit/48 kbps output, barely better than CD quality audio.

In doing further research, I found this guide, which seemed to imply that these limitations applied only to the lossless audio codecs employed by Blu-ray (such as Dolby TrueHD / DTS-HD Master Audio), but perhaps not to a straight LPCM bitstream.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/HD-PC-Audio,review-1101.html

If you are not familiar with this guide, I’d highly recommend reading all 9 pages, but the language that caught my attention was on page 5.

“When it comes to reliable, constant transport of high-bandwidth, high-resolution audio from PC to receiver (or pre-amp/preprocessor), it may at first blush seem that HDMI is just the thing. But because none of the currently available PC equipment with HDMI interfaces yet supports HDMI 1.3 (or 1.3a), nor offers the ability to bitstream the Dolby or DTS high bitrate formats, this means that only high-definition LPCM streams can transit existing HDMI outputs on their way out of the PC and into a receiver or pre-amp/preprocessor.”

I thought that I recalled learning that the 24/192 audio on The Archives was going to be a stereo LPCM stream, therefore not requiring the use of one of the advanced lossless HD audio codecs employed for 5.1 or 7.1 audio for movies. Is this correct, or is the audio encoded in a way that the vast majority of PCs will be unable to transmit at high definition? If there are issues, is there anything that can be done on your end to fix these issues in the future?

Finally, let me ask a couple of specific questions about my setup. I already know that I will not be able to enjoy the full HD video on The Archives because my monitor is not 1080p, but I don’t really care at this point. I’ve decided on the Blu-ray version for the features, and for the future, however the idea of being unable to enjoy the highest definition of the audio is disappointing to me, even though I know that no matter what it will still sound better than ever before. I do not plan to use digital output from my PC to a pre-amp and stereo speakers, but I do plan to employ some very nice headphones directly out of my soundcard, and I wonder will the digital audio path issues I outlined above have any effect on my listening experience? Or is all of this concern moot for me because I’ll be doing the digital to analog conversion at a point in the stream where the audio stream will still be at 24/192?

Thank you for your answers and patience with the Neil Young fan community. We are dedicated amateurs, just as you are a dedicated professional, so please understand that is what is behind our passions.

--PunkDavid
At 5/27/2009 03:22:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hello AG!

I know you have stated that you have no direct connections with shipping & ordering and have a list to those in charge.

Will those that ordered directly from NeilYoung.com receive a courtesy email noting that shipping has occurred with tracking information (similar to Amazon)?

Ain't this exciting?

-Chicago
Go Hawks!
At 5/27/2009 03:26:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Babbo-

For your picture are you talking about buying a HDMI to component cable?

If so, you might want to do some homework first to see if that will work. there are pricey converter boxes, but I'd be careful about thinking that a cable would work.
At 5/27/2009 03:34:00 PM, nicospilmont said...: -AG,

if I order off neilyoung.com AFTER June 2, will I get the 45rpm of "the sultan" anyway ?

Nicolas
At 5/27/2009 03:36:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Punk David-

Very god questions. I've forwarded your comment to the smart guys.

My gut instinct is that one can configure their computer to work as we intend it to.

As far as your headphone out goes, I'm not so certain that it follows the same circuit path as the other outputs on your soundcard and most likely goes thru it's own D->A converter.

What kind of sound card have you installed?

This BD on PCs is a slippery slope, as forewarned.

Of course we could always delay the Archives release until this is nailed down. :-)
At 5/27/2009 03:37:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hey AG, yup that's what it says on Status
Back Order.
Hmm, had to re-order due to Bank mix up so I will be getting the Preview Disc again, tried to take that off the order as I have one with no luck, I'll use that to Sell the whole Blu-Ray on some Friends...but yeah, Back Order.
Maybe says that till it's actually Shipped?
Hoping I "Don't Be Denied" lol
LIVE RUST
At 5/27/2009 03:41:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: NIcolas and Chicago with order questions-

I've got an inquiry in with the record company.
At 5/27/2009 03:41:00 PM, SONY said...: AG-
How'd you get this gig anyway? These tech answers - half the stuff you riff I never even heard of. I miss the days of putting the stereo together with my eyes closed, even with the pre-amp and equalizer. Now I need my 11 year old kid to help
At 5/27/2009 03:44:00 PM, karen said...: Yo, wha? Back order? How did you check your Order Status, Roger? I can't find my confirmation email, or order number, or anything, but now you're frrreakin' me out w/this back order news?! I know I ordered it because a. Not likely that the NYA would slip my mind (ha) and b. I did receive the Preview Disc (omg). But...Hmm. Am I Going To Get My Archives???

Yo AG wassup? Thx for being The Answer Grape. But that last comment about "we could always delay ..." was just cruel. ; )

lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 03:44:00 PM, WesternRiver said...: Hey AG~

I was listening to some of the Archives samples on Barnes and Noble's website (http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Neil-Young-Archives-Vol-1-1963-1972/Neil-Young/e/93624996057/?itm=2), and on the sample of "Sell Out," there's a horrible edit where the lines "can I bring my cat?" and "was I off too far?" blend together, and it's painfully obvious. Please reassure me that this is their error, and doesn't sound like this on the Archives.
At 5/27/2009 03:47:00 PM, Anonymous said...: AG,
Thanks for yer time and patience in walking us through this.

I know you said that nothing would be charged for BD live d/ls, but what about opening the Live Archives (individual shows) for fans, to perhaps purchase ala carte, like PJ, Gov't Mule and The Black Crowes do?

Any plans on opening the Live NY Archives?

Thanks
E
At 5/27/2009 03:52:00 PM, karen said...: Western River,

I played that song at that B&N link and i hear no bad edit, plays fine here, song clip is from here to here:

"...bring it up again?
Will I blow my actt?
Misplaced tinselface, weekend pretend (i think, not sure of that word)
Am I on your track?
I would love to live close to you,
Could I bring my cat?"

lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 03:55:00 PM, john said...: Hi Archives Guy,

We are sure going to miss you when you go - very soon, from your last Rust post.

I would just like to thank you and all of Neil's Archives team for all the time & hard work put in on this mammoth project.Also,a personal thank you for your information & patience.

Is there likely to be a post release forum on TW or on your own Blog for discussion & feedback ,when us restless consumers are ,at least in part, au fait with those amazing Archives? I dare say many questions will arise once we get a chance to get our grubby mits on the real McCoy !

Au Revoir Monsieur A Guy!
At 5/27/2009 03:55:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hi AG,

Two questions..

If we purchase the BD or dvd version (with the download card) on June 2, can we download the mp3 files right away or will we have to wait?

Also, does the book provide mainly technical information for each song (ie, recording dates, band info, etc.) or does it also provide Neil's own comments/musings on each recording? Just wondering.

Thank you kindly,

Pete
At 5/27/2009 03:59:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hey Karen, ya gotta find your e-mail..."Your Warner Bros. Records Order #" and click on the "Click here" Link. Should bring up the page of your Order with the info about Shipping and such.
LIVE RUST (Roger in BC)
At 5/27/2009 04:04:00 PM, karen said...: okay, thx, roger, i finally found my email from wb. my order status says "in process." phew. (sorry about your backorder status ?!?!)
lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 04:06:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: SONY-

It's a miracle story of a Canadian boy with a dream.

With always suggest getting a teenage kid to aid in setting up your system. :-)
At 5/27/2009 04:09:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen-

Crackle is here looking over my shoulder and asks me to type to you-

No audio here !!!

Whatever that means. ???

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 04:11:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Western River-

Barnes and Noble question.

Thanks, I'll go listen to what they did with these samples. We didn't prepare them.

Trust me, there are no nasty edits in the Archives set.
At 5/27/2009 04:13:00 PM, Anonymous said...: HELLO CRACKLE!!! Hope all is well and AG us in the know ,know exactly what he means ..Thanks for everything guys
At 5/27/2009 04:14:00 PM, karen said...: That Crackle, he's a crack up. Tell Crackle I said NFH! WTF?
And since Crackle is looking over your shoulder, I will ask you the following, about the Archives, Archives Guy.

Why did you include X, and not Y?! And speaking of which, what about the previously unreleased live version of Z? And whatever happened to the solo version of Z? ! When is Volume II coming out? What about Volume III? Where's Neil? What's happening? Why aren't you answering me?

: ) Just want to make sure Crackle recognizes me.

lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 04:15:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Pete-

On downloads and the book.

The mp3 downloads should be ready to go when your set arrives, but honestly I haven't seen them yet and will personally test the download system before allowing it to go live.

My answer to a similar book question from yesterday's session:

It is a visual companion to the set and apart from page after page of photos, documents, lyrics, memorabilia has database information, tape references, detailed track,musician,credits descriptions and more.

Think of a 236 page booklet inside an old record album and you've got the idea.
At 5/27/2009 04:19:00 PM, SONY said...: AG-
OK, so, let's see - Cananda - we're zeroing in on ya.

That sounds awfully close to 'another' Canadian miracle dream story of a certain musician we all love. Glad to hear it.
At 5/27/2009 04:20:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen-

Crackle just filled me in on the background story.
NFH= no feed here from the Lincvolt webcast chats.

That is so "inside" that it's "outside".

Ha ha ha....
Why don't you two just get behind the wheel and drive or something? :-)

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 04:23:00 PM, zejt said...: Anyone get shipped when they check their order status. thanks Roger
At 5/27/2009 04:23:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Customer Service questions-

Here is some contact info for ordering and shipping questions. Welcome to communicating with the record compnay.

Contacting Customer Service
You can reach customer service by e-mail, telephone or regular mail.
Our representatives are available to answer your phone calls between the hours of 8:00 AM and Midnight Monday through Friday and Saturday from 8:30am to 7:00pm, Eastern Standard Time (except holidays).

E-mail address: wbr@b3custserv.com.

Phone Number: (866) 759-4843
At 5/27/2009 04:25:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Good idea. I'll drive. Please send keys soonest.
lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 04:27:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: SONY-

Don't you dare guess Gordon Lightfoot or Bryan Adams.

Geddy Lee I could deal with. :-)
At 5/27/2009 04:29:00 PM, karen said...: Whoops. Forgot to sign in with that last comment. Fear not. It was me. Please send keys soonest. And also pls send my l-u-v to L,S,C & P.

And speaking of so inside that it's outside, and cars, get this. (Tell Crackle.) I was with my daughter (12) and her friends this w/end and one of the friends says, about my rather-shabby-but-so-uncool-it's-cool-minivan, "Hey! My mom used to have a car just like this!" "Oh?" I say, pleasantly. "Yeah," she says. "We used to call it The Loser Cruiser." Hmm.

lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 04:29:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hello, Thanks AG for doing this. Excuse my ignorance but Can I buy the Blu-Ray Archives at my local record shop up here in canada? Whats the advantage of pre-order? I don't like throwing my visa around the web.

Thanks
Doug
At 5/27/2009 04:29:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hey you two, how 'bout getting a room?

; )
At 5/27/2009 04:34:00 PM, SONY said...: AG-
Gordie Lightfoot - How could I forget - learned a bit on his stuff too.
At 5/27/2009 04:34:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Doug-

Re: Canada record shops.

Yes, I can't imagine this set not being sold in Canada of all places. Please contact customer service (go up a few comments for details).

The pre-order on neilyoung.com gives som egood pricing and also the limited edition 45RPM of the Squires.
At 5/27/2009 04:35:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Customer Service-

Hey gang, when you get some answers from Warner's customer Service people, please post so that others may benefit.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 04:43:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: hey Karen...Crackle123 here.

I've got the keyboard now...

That's funny!! Loser Cruiser!! Would that be something that Johnny Tragic would drive? LOL

I think Pop and I are going to be doing a public appearance next week with the lovely Linc here on the Best Coast.
Maybe we can get the BPMM up and running again for a webcast. We'll let ya all know thru Mileage Quest.

So much for the future, now back to the past with Mr geeky Archives Guy. yawn....
At 5/27/2009 04:47:00 PM, karen said...: Crx UnDeuxTrois! Oui! I heard about that. LID and all that. Very cool. June 5? That would be funfunfun (until someone takes my lincvolt away) if you could get the webcast going. Back to the future! But someone told me you can't truly enter the future unless you first embrace the past, might have even been LV, so Archives Guy is cool, yo. x
At 5/27/2009 04:49:00 PM, SONY said...: "Mr.Geeky AG...yawn"

This is getter better than Johnny Carson
At 5/27/2009 04:51:00 PM, Ian Silver Wings of Morning said...: Please give Neil a pinch on his cheek and tell him he's a good boy! Also, please remind him to eat his wheaties. He needs to get his energy to kick butt on guitar.
At 5/27/2009 04:53:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: OK folks....let's get back to NYA questions.

Crackle warned me about Karen and then I figured out quickly that he is just as bad.
Folks, never let others drive your keyboard on online forums.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 05:06:00 PM, karen said...: Just trying to keep the conversation lively, Archives Guy. Warned you about me? Hmm. Now you've hurt my feelings.
At 5/27/2009 05:14:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Western River-

I checked out the Barnes&Noble link.
Played fine here. Perhaps you had an internet hic cup?

There are some things that need fixing on that page,
so thanks for the heads up.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 05:17:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Just talked to Warner Bros. Customer Service.

Asked when/where/if I can pick up my BR Archives at a local record store in Canada and they had no clue. The also had no clue when I asked who would win the cup.. "what cup?"

Called the local retailer @ London Drugs, Buddy has no listing for it yet. He figures Wings in 5 "too much depth".

Dude at Future Shop had it listed at $329.99 CAN, He figures they will only get a few (maybe 5 Blu-Ray), and they are not pre holding/ordering them, and there is a buzz about them so they will go fast. He figures the Penguins in 7 with two OT games. "Wings are too old, Pens need to keep cool".

Doug
At 5/27/2009 05:19:00 PM, CK said...: poui,

Just a suggestion as an alternative to a wireless bridge, I have my blu-ray player (Samsung BD-P1500) connected to the internet via an ethernet powerline adapter like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-XAVB101-Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B001AGM2VI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1243458717&sr=8-1

Can't speak for the NYA, of course, but other BD-Live discs are working fine with this setup.

Archives Guy - thanks for the great answers and info these past days and months!

CK in CO
At 5/27/2009 05:24:00 PM, john said...: Hi Archives Guy,

You didn't answer my question about any follow up forum post Archives Volume 1 release.Will we be able to ask questions arising from our experiences with them ? -particularly the Blu Ray format.

I think Crackle & yourself got side tracked by Karen . -Hi KAREN!

Just one more thing (Columbo) - are Crackle & yourself buds ?

THANKYOU once more.
At 5/27/2009 05:25:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Dougie-

An outstanding scouting report.
I'll poke around about Canadian retailers.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 05:32:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: John-

Questions later:

Yes, we won't just leave you hanging. there are certainly new questions that will come up after folks start playing with the set.

We hope that our Archives website will answer most questions, but I'm gong to ask to come back here again.

Columbo question- We work together on some projects. He gets to have more fun than I do. He's cool.
Crackle isn't his real name. It came out of one of their Lincvolt trips.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 05:33:00 PM, CK said...: D'oh! Forgot to ask Archives Guy:

Is the NYA ORS just a new name for the NYA Digital Masterpiece Series (On The Beach, Reactor, etc), or is the sound quality even improved over those discs?

Thanks again,
CK in CO
At 5/27/2009 05:37:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: CK-

Series names.

NYA ORS is a whole new series. I don't quite know how to qualify the audio quality since the other series you mention are also remasters.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 05:39:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Punk David,

I think that AnyDVD "fixes" the PAP (Protected Audio Path) issues, allowing you to send the true 24/192 audio signal to an external receiver or headphones.

abel
At 5/27/2009 05:45:00 PM, a vinyl junkie said...: Hi AG,

Very important technical question,

- Will the 45RPM have a big hole that needs an adapter or a little 33 hole?

We need to know so we can plan accordingly for our turntable purchase.

Thanks for all you do!
At 5/27/2009 05:49:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hi Archives Guy,

Thanks for answering my question about the 200 grams black gold a couple of days ago.

Are the NYA ORS releases only on vinyl?
Is there a release date for the first four albums?

...and do you really think vinyl does still sounds super cool after working with Blu-Ray so much?

Thanks.

Because Sound Matters
At 5/27/2009 05:49:00 PM, CK said...: Thanks AG. I was mostly curious if this was indeed a new series or a sort-of "rebranding". Unimportant details, really...

CK
At 5/27/2009 05:51:00 PM, Anonymous said...: PunkDavid,

it seems that the forthcoming Slyplayer (free!!!) will be the solution to all issues.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/20/slysoft-working-on-user-friendly-blu-ray-player-software/

As you can see in TMT (Total Media Theatre) quite a few users are unhappy with it.

abel
At 5/27/2009 05:53:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: vinyl junkie-

That is an EXCELLENT question. I sure hope it needs a 45 adapter. I'll ask.
At 5/27/2009 05:55:00 PM, Doonerak said...: AG-

Can you list some reasons why the PS3 is "the best" for the archives, especially now that there are many profile2 stand-alone players out there which you have tested and there is cheap, big flash drives out there?
Seems to have been the party line of Team Neil last year. Is it still?

Thx
At 5/27/2009 05:58:00 PM, dr dip said...: Awwwwwhhh!.. mornin' world, Thrash,Archie.
Well you'll be glad to know... today is a "Dip Free" day.
Yep,I've been to bloggers Anonymous
and feel I'm on the mends......sadly Today and tomorrow, I've got other hatchets to bury. Seeya in happier times.

Luv always Dip
At 5/27/2009 05:59:00 PM, Craig said...: RE: Canadian retailers. Try HMV, it is Canada's largest Music/DVD retailer and all stores should be carrying the Archives. I work at the Halifax location and we have 15 copies of the BRD set on order, as well as 25 of the DVD and 10 of the CD. I believe the price of the BRD set will be $359.99.
At 5/27/2009 05:59:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Because Sound Matters-

Don't have release dates yet. Have to give the press conference "no comment" on the rest of the question.

IMHO vinyl still sounds the best. All digital audio is an approximation/ a sampling of analog sound. A vinyl record is much truer to capturing vibrations and sound. I think the ears can tell the difference, but the public has listened to digital for so long that their ears have have become accustomed to something less than what it could be.

The Blu-ray audio comes the closest to the analog experience. It's not the same, but the best we have...leaps and bounds ahead of CDs or mp3 files.
At 5/27/2009 05:59:00 PM, john said...: Thanks for your reassurances concerning future qestions.Not only are The Archives revolutionary, and ground breaking,but the forum you provide is also novel.It would be great to have you back here.

I'll reiterate that few,if any, other major artists would provide such a service to their fans.

Forget the moans,most of us are very positive,I feel.

However,do I need to reinforce my floor to accomodate the Blu Ray version in all it's glory? Do you know how much the Blu Ray total package weighs ,and the dimensions of the box ?

I'm wondering if I have to practice with weights,before taking delivery! Also, I need to make some space in my little old English home !

Kind Regards.
At 5/27/2009 06:08:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: John-

May I suggest the following exercise program to prepare for the arrival of the Archives:

Begin by standing on a comfortable surface, where you have plenty of room at each side. With a 5-kg potato sack in each hand, extend your arms straight out from your sides and hold them there as long as you can. Try to reach a full minute, and then relax.

Each day you'll find that you can hold this position for just a bit longer.

After a couple of weeks, move up to 10-kg potato sacks. Then try 25-kg potato sacks and then eventually try to get to where you can lift a 50-kg potato sack in each hand and hold your arms straight for more than a full minute. (I'm at this level.)

After you feel confident at that level, put a potato in each sack.
At 5/27/2009 06:30:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Thanks Craig

Never heard of HMV before, behold there is one in our local mall (I avoid the mall as much as public showers)

Called and buddy says, June 2nd BRD 339.99 and he's got my name on one. OH YA BABY! He picked the wings in 6 "But it's gonna be a tough, tough 6".

But one day, one day my friends, the Oil will rise. Thats what it does.

Doug
At 5/27/2009 06:30:00 PM, Anonymous said...: If I could ask someone from Neil's Archives Team anything, it would certainly about content. But since I can't, I'll try non-content.

AG,
Has anything been done with songs that Neil's written but never committed to tape? (something like 'No' or 'Lover In The Mirror')

Even if no document exists.

Syscrusher
At 5/27/2009 06:35:00 PM, Babbo said...: Archives Guy said: For your picture are you talking about buying a HDMI to component cable?
If so, you might want to do some homework first to see if that will work. There are pricey converter boxes, but I'd be careful about thinking that a cable would work.

No, I'm talking about the component cable Sony sells that you can plug into the PS3's AV MULTI OUT, instead of the composite cable that comes with the standard package. But one further thought: By going analog instead of digital optical for audio, would I be missing anything if I did play something in the PS3 that had Dolby/DTS sound?
At 5/27/2009 06:38:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Howdy. If my Pioneer Bluray player is not capable of connecting to the internet, can I download the updated material from a friends PS3and play the new material on my Pioneer Bluray player? Also, are there any other problems with the Bluray version of the Archives for my old (8 months is now old??)Bluray player? One more question, my audio for my Bluray is only setup with two speakers, do I need to go get the rears and center connected for the best sound?

Thanks for your help.
At 5/27/2009 06:54:00 PM, john said...: Thanks for the exercise programme,as we Limeys spell your program,or vice versa.I'm practising on an empty packet of potato chips & will work out with a chip on each shoulder tomorrow! How about opening the shrink wrap?! Okay, I need a shrink !

I like the relaxed feel of this forum,as it has developed.A serious purport,but with laughs along the way.

I've got a 50 inch Sonia Bravia,which the ladies admire,so I reckon that might help me read the text on the screen,when I navigate the Blu Ray version on my PS3. Some people on Rust said that they had to be close up to the screen to read the text on the Preview version . Does this ring a bell? Have you had any problem in this area ? Should I buy a telescope?
;0)

Muchos Gracias !
At 5/27/2009 06:57:00 PM, punkdavid said...: Archives Guy wrote:As far as your headphone out goes, I'm not so certain that it follows the same circuit path as the other outputs on your soundcard and most likely goes thru it's own D->A converter.

What kind of sound card have you installed?Would the headphone out going through its own D->A converter be a good thing or a bad thing? I would think it would be a good thing, as long as the datastream was still at 24/192 when it got there.

As for my soundcard, it is onboard sound (not a pluged in soundcard) that came with my Dell that I bought about a year ago. I specifically chose sound that could handle full BD playback, although I can't recall specifically if it said 24/192 on the website when I was ordering.

However, I'm pretty sure that when I played around with my sound settings that 24/192 output was an option.

Of course we could always delay the Archives release until this is nailed down. :-)No thanks, teacher, I'll take the zero.

--PunkDavid
At 5/27/2009 07:06:00 PM, Shittyhorse said...: YES YES Vinyl IS BY FAR the BEST SOUNDING!
Have all but two of Neil's Albums on Vinyl. (original TTN...no glitter..lol but has 'hello/goodbye waterface') Everyone should stop investing in digital and bring back the big discs....arrrgh and dont get me started on MP3s! Pure Trash!
AG, you may have answered this but will there be a Archives on Vinyl released?
Thanks
'Try to not Spook the Horse'
At 5/27/2009 07:18:00 PM, Michael said...: AG-

Ordered off Warner Bros site the set and originally did standard delivery, but would like to switch it to rush.
2 questions:
1) is it too late to switch it to rush?
2) what is the estimated delivery date on rush (I live in maryland)

Thanks!
At 5/27/2009 07:20:00 PM, Thrasher said...: Thanks again AG for the session!

regarding that super-tech question on the 45RPM, hopefully you're tracking that down.

Maybe the FAQ will have a how to play vinyl section?

At the moment, on 6/2 we'll have a BD set but no player as of yet. :(

But we'll have the book and the 45! Now just need to find my adapter.

What adapter vendor do you recommend? I hear SONY makes some nice ones...

t
At 5/27/2009 07:31:00 PM, Michael said...: Ooops, didn't see the order & shipping customer service number. Disregard my question!
At 5/27/2009 07:42:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Game is on in a minute, so a few final answers here.

Babbo-

Ok, good. the PS3 AV MULTI is the way to good. That is exactly what I am using.

No worries on the DTS. The decoding happens in the PS3. What you don't get via the PS3 AV MULTI is surround ability since the audio connectors are stereo.

For example to watch JTTP in surround one needs to use the optical or HDMI connectors.
The audio on that disc is not 24/192 and is DTS so using optical wrks fine.
At 5/27/2009 07:44:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Sh*#tyhorse-

Vinyl?
This is under consideration.
At 5/27/2009 07:45:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: MIchael-

ordering question.

Scroll up the list and you will find custom er service info for Warner Brothers.
At 5/27/2009 07:49:00 PM, TVel said...: This has probably been mentioned, but anyone see that CSN have a demo album coming out on the day the archives come out? Looks like there's a demo of "Music is Love" including Neil--- nice! Great song.
At 5/27/2009 07:54:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Anon asks:

If my Pioneer Bluray player is not capable of connecting to the internet, can I download the updated material from a friends PS3and play the new material on my Pioneer Bluray player?

Two things-

1-downloads are stored on the player, not the disc so downloading on a friend's player places the content on his player and is only accessible by inserting one of your NYA discs.

2- What player do you have? If it is not internet ready it is most likely not a Profile 2.0 player.

3- Stereo is just fine. The only surround track is the JTTP movie. It also has a stereo option.
I have to go, but please send back info about what player you have.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 07:55:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: TW-

Thanks for hosting another session.
Fret not, Help is on it's way.

I'll lurk around later to wrap things up here and close the barn doors.

Time to put my Hawks sweater on....gonna watch the game with Crackle and Pop.

-Archives Guy
At 5/27/2009 08:39:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Anon here,

Thanks for the help AG. I have a Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD that I think is Profile 1. Will I still be able to enjoy the Bluray version or will I need to buy my boy a PS3 for Xmas? I bought the Elite last summer....I could have bought the PS3 for half the $$$$ and spoiled the kid.

Cheers.
At 5/27/2009 08:46:00 PM, punkdavid said...: @ abel

I read about using AnyDVD in one of the articles I linked in my long first post, but I believe it also said that this was only if you extracted the audio to separate files for play. In other words, you can't listen while you browse (or you'd have to have the music playing in WinAMP or something while you silently browse the Archives. Not what I'm going for.

--PunkDavid
At 5/27/2009 09:28:00 PM, Babbo said...: Hello, all:

AG's off for some well-deserved rest, but I'm wondering if any PS3 owners out there might be able to answer a question for me: As he explained here, I would want to run analog sound out of a PS3 to get the full 24/192 stereo for Archives stuff, but would want to use the digital optical out for movies with Dolby surround. I'm hoping I could run both audio outputs out of the PS3 and have them both active, and just switch between those inputs on my sound system - anyone know if that would work? Or if only one could be active at a time, is there someplace in the PS3 setup to choose one or the other? Thanks much for any help anyone can provide -

Babs
At 5/27/2009 10:00:00 PM, Kimball said...: Anyone who has ordered through NeilYoung.com ie WarnerBros: If you have received your preview disc, does that line on your order status change to shipped while the main set still shows In Process?

Just wondering if there's a way I can tell when my preview ships.

This is like the 12 days leading up to Christmas. Good crowd and good vibes round here thanks to Thrasher and Archives Guy.

Thanks to Archives Guy for leading us though this. This is absolutely a class act from Neil's organization, they care so much about everything they do, just like we care so much about exploring how Neil's music touches us.

I just want to send a truly heartfelt THANK YOU to Neil and his team for caring enough about us to follow through on your values by ensuring that this gets done RIGHT! Its absolutely crystal clear to me that there isn't any profiteering going on here at all, just a driven passion to document Neil's work in the way that will best stand the test of time. I firmly believe these Neil Young archives will be in use and referenced in 500 and 1000 years and beyond. They won't always be on Blu-ray but they'll still be around...

Thanks,
Kimball
At 5/27/2009 10:05:00 PM, karen said...: Kimball,
Yes, I have received the preview disc and it says "shipped" for the preview disc on my order, and "in process" for The Archives.
lovekaren
At 5/27/2009 11:13:00 PM, BIGCHIEF said...: How 'bout that AG? ..IT's 'Happy Time' here in the MotorCity! I'll get to watch my beloved Wing's win the cup while listening to my Archives ... life don't get much better .. not even in Detroit!
At 5/27/2009 11:43:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hey AG,

Why isn't the BBC In Concert film on the Archives? Was it too expensive to put on or something? May it possibly be a BD download?

Matt
At 5/28/2009 12:27:00 AM, Anonymous said...: AG/Thrash-

good night.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
At 5/28/2009 03:29:00 AM, Anonymous said...: I think Hello Lonely Woman has been edited. In Shakey it says the harp solo goes for four minutes, but on the time that's given on amazon it says the song only goes for four minutes, so I think we are not going to hear the song as it originally came out - more a watered down version. Pity, in Shakey it says the song is thrilling during the harp solo.
At 5/28/2009 06:44:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Hi!!

Will the Swing in mit Neil Young documentary be on the archives? A german thing that can be found on youtube.

Peace!
At 5/28/2009 06:45:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Babs,

I am a PS3 owner, but not an expert. As I've read, and thought, about this, I think you (and I and other PS3 owners) will need to have the audio settings on the PS3 set to either Optical or Multi Audio (however it will refer to RCA.. not sure since I don't have that hooked up now) when listenting/watching/playing different things. I'll likely leave mine on optical until my archives listening. It only would take you 5 seconds to switch, not much longer than pushing a button on a receiver (although to be clear this is a menu once you boot up the PS3)..

That's my guess
At 5/28/2009 07:40:00 AM, Babbo said...: Thanks - that's the idea I got, too, from poking around a little more online. Sounds pretty manageable. Just hoping now for a price drop (wouldn't it be sweet if Sony announced that at their E3 press conference next Tuesday, on Archives Day itself?)
At 5/28/2009 09:29:00 AM, Anonymous said...: I can't find that Swing in mit Neil Young documentary on YouTube.

Where is it?
At 5/28/2009 09:37:00 AM, Anonymous said...: As far as Hello Lonely Woman has being edited, why would you believe anything in that piece of crap book, Shakey?
At 5/28/2009 11:12:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Trust me the harp solo is quite thrilling.
And the song IS a revelation. The edit probably just makes the song a better listen. It's unlike anything in the NY canon.
S
At 5/28/2009 11:32:00 AM, Anonymous said...: It's the 1st recording of Neil playing harmonica, ever.

Track 1 on the North Country disc, "Heart Of Gold" is the 1st time Neil ever played harmonica live on stage.

Two historical moments captured on this Archives set.
At 5/28/2009 12:01:00 PM, Anonymous said...: This is nothing more then a guess but...being a Harp Player, I honestly don't think that is Neil playing the Harmonica on "Hello Lonely Woman" as there is a real difference in playing Harp in a "Blues" fashion as compared to a "Folk" fashion for lack of a better explanation. At this point I have never really heard Neil play in that fashion other then "Mr. Soul" on Unplugged. I could so, so easily be wrong though...it is just a thought, and it's not like Neil hasn't surprised my before, which he surely has!
LIVE RUST
At 5/28/2009 01:51:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Yo AG!

I went to http://wbr@b3custserv.com/

and all I see is a note 'It works!'
No joke.

-Chicago
At 5/28/2009 02:14:00 PM, Anonymous said...: wbr@b3custserv.com is a E-MAIL ADDRESS.

NOT A URL......
At 5/28/2009 02:56:00 PM, Craig Olsvik said...: Hi guys, as mentioned in my post above, I work at a music retailer in Canada called HMV.

Well, this morning, we received our shipments of the Archives!!!! Let me just say that this product is the real deal, absolutely mindblowing; and this is just the packaging I'm talking about.

This thing is physically large! The book is beautiful; it has a soft leather-like cover, and is filled with amazing stuff. Although I was disappointed to find no text within the book. The poster is really cool too, as is the foldable box that holds the discs themselves. Although, I do find that the sleeves that hold the discs can be a pain to remove from the box.

On Tuesday, make sure to examine EVERY nook and cranny of the box, because there are some HIDDEN SURPRISES!!!!

Craig.
At 5/28/2009 03:03:00 PM, karen said...: Oh Archives Guy where are you, and what have you done with Crackle? Or what has Crackle done with you? Oh dear.

Figures I would have an actual Archives question when you are gone gone gone. Sigh.

Here are my questions if you come back, or perhaps someone else here knows the answer? I am pretty much challenged w/the technology beyond "on," "off," and "volume."

Okay. So. One. When I navigate around the preview disc I get this annoying little BEEP from my BluRay player at every click. Should I be able to somehow turn this off somewhere? Can't find it.

Two. I realize that the perusing around is song specific. But. Is there a way to go from say, perusing the documents on a song, back and forth to the main visual (like tape deck playing on floor or whatev) ? I can navigate the folder for a song and hear the song, but if I click to go to the main visual (e.g. tape deck on floor), song starts over at the beginning. Should it be continuous, that is, should I be able to navigate back and forth between main visual and folder without the song starting over each time, or not?

Thx. And please, uh, Crackle? Let Archives Guy out of the closet or un-duct tape him from the chair or whatever, we need him here.

lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 03:07:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Yo AG!

Are you on facebook ?

-Chicago
At 5/28/2009 03:15:00 PM, karen said...: Wow, cool, Craig! You have the goods! It's real! : ) And ... Hidden surprises?!?! Thx for the 411!
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 03:22:00 PM, Craig said...: Oh it's definitely real! I couldn't believe it until I held it in my hands this morning! Now I have to sit and stare at it until I can buy it on Tuesday.....gonna be a long 4 days.
At 5/28/2009 03:26:00 PM, karen said...: WHAT? OMG that's torture! Don't you have special dispensation as a retailer ??? Okay, that's it. Where do you live, I'll take the heat. ; )
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 03:39:00 PM, Craig said...: Unfortunately they electronically track any sales of product before the release date :(

I can wait though, what's another 4 days after we've been waiting years?
At 5/28/2009 03:48:00 PM, Anonymous said...: rip it off instead
At 5/28/2009 03:55:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hey Karen, I do believe that when the Disc is playing with the Play All feature that means it simply plays through...which is cool too.
But, to navigate you have to be in the File Folder feature to hear the Song and see the related material. Just like going thru a real cabinet. Close it and you have Music with the Tape Deck/Record Player, what-have-you.
That's what I understood and what I get from playing the Preview Disc on my PS3.
Oh, and back to "Processing" on the Status Page...and the e-mail I sent got a reply saying 21 Business Days, Customs...blah, blah...possible 4 to 5 Weeks!!!
Oh the Irony to Pre-Order thru Neil Young . com and have a longer wait.
Roger LIVE RUST
At 5/28/2009 03:59:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Advantages to being Canadian, eh?
That's super Craig.

-designschicago

(new identity, long time thrasher fan, as someone has hijacked my city/username!)
At 5/28/2009 04:03:00 PM, karen said...: Advantages and disadvantages I'd say ... Poor Roger! Thanks for the info Roger, sounds like everything is working right here then. Do you get that beep thing when you click on an arrow? Aargh, that kind of stuff drives me batty. I need to figure out how to turn that off on my player.
(And oh I thought that Chicago was you, designchicago?!?! What the ??!)
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 04:51:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Craig:

DON'T SPOIL THE SURPRISE!!!

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 04:53:00 PM, Craig said...: No worries AG, I have no intention of doing so!
At 5/28/2009 04:56:00 PM, WesternRiver said...: Now I'm even more pumped!! I hope this is a pretty big surprise. Does a clone of Neil come with each box or something? :p.
At 5/28/2009 04:57:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen:

Beeping sound:

without a disc inserted in your player, trying seeing if your remote has a menu button. There should be somewhere there to turn of the beeping sound.

In regard to navigating around, the Info Card mode and the Play All/ turntable mode aren't connected to one another. That is why the song starts over. It is a programming impossibility to have this any other way.
However, when you are in the Play All/turntable mode, hit your Pop Up Menu button to read the info card of the song and navigate quickly back to Info Card mode.

Haven't seen your buddy, Crackle today but we had some fun watching hockey last night...until the overtime period.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 04:58:00 PM, WesternRiver said...: And AG, is it true what Craig said, that there are no words between the Archives book pages?
At 5/28/2009 04:59:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Note K:

The shipping Q was me, not the others.... it's a Chicago mystery. Fess up, buddy!

-designschicago
At 5/28/2009 05:01:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Chicago:

Facebook?

No, that social networking stuff is a bit scary for me.
I'm more of a loner.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 05:04:00 PM, karen said...: AG,
Thx, I'll check into that for turning off the BEEEP, argh.
On the mode switching/song restart, ok, yeah, got that. I see. I was just wondering if my player was f-ed up or something, it sort of seemed like I should be able to go back and forth there between the two. I get it, tho, thx. Glad to see you are alive, that Crackle can spell trouble.
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 05:07:00 PM, Craig said...: There are words in terms of song lyrics, musician credits, newspaper clippings, etc. It would have been cool to have an essay about the history of the archives or something, but that's largely beside the point. The content on the discs themselves is where the info is.
At 5/28/2009 05:07:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Western River-

The book doesn't have a narrative text/ a written story with sentences and paragraphs, if that is what you mean. There is plenty of text and lots of words in the book.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 05:09:00 PM, Designs said...: AG-

Perhaps you WILL change your mind (change your mind, change your mind...) someday re: FB.

What could be more scary than Thrasher readers?

-designschicago
At 5/28/2009 05:14:00 PM, WesternRiver said...: OK, that's what I thought. But craig, there is an entire biography of Neil's life from 63-72; it's just on th DVDs where the timeline is.
At 5/28/2009 05:16:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Craig explained it better than I did about the book.

Rest assured that there are no purple words on a grey background...the background in the book is more of a tan color.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 05:21:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Designschicago-

my ever so brief interaction with the Rust List was REALLY scary.

Don't think so on the Facebook. That whole friend collecting part is creepy to me.
Plus, I hear that once you are hooked, Facebook leads to harder things like Twitter. :-)

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 05:23:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Western River-

Good point. Also, there is a NY Biography section in every disc that tells the story of what was going on during that particular disc's time period.
At 5/28/2009 05:24:00 PM, Craig said...: Facebook is a gateway drug.
At 5/28/2009 05:25:00 PM, karen said...: Well you did kind of come on to the Rust List like a bull in a china shop there, AG, ya gotta admit. : )
I have too many words for Twitter, they limit you. That's just wrong.
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 05:30:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen-

I plead guilty, but I do know how to make an entrance, eh?

Let me know when you figure out that beeping sound.
At 5/28/2009 05:39:00 PM, Designs said...: AG,

Rusties ARE scary.
There's this Karen person, well, she's so full of energy she just knocks ya over. Kind of like a hurricane.

; D

-designschicago
At 5/28/2009 05:44:00 PM, karen said...: Yes, quite an entrance there AG. : )
I had no luck with the remote and trying to turn off the BEEEEEP.
Next Stop: The Dreaded Manual.
Be right back.
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 05:55:00 PM, Doonerak said...: Rusties ARE scary!I've been one for 16 years and I often scare myself when I look in the mirror. Especially when I look down towards the abdominal area. Ah, new fatherhood....I became a Neil fan in 1985 and fairly obsessed around 1988, about the time when someone first mentioned "Decade2". See a connection here???? :-)

Peace and Love to AG and T. My BD copy shipped today!
At 5/28/2009 06:08:00 PM, Anonymous said...: In Process......:o(

Roger LIVE RUST
At 5/28/2009 06:36:00 PM, karen said...: Okay, AG, got rid of the annoying beeeeeeeeep.
I can't even begin to tell you how painful this whole tech thing is for me, I was avoiding it at all costs, I really just want to hit PLAY (which is also a bit of a problem for a speedy and mad clicker such as I am ... it's on/off/on/off/on/off/on/off before it ever gets going when I have the remote) . . . ANYWAY, I had to go in to change the unit's settings, BD-V Secondary Audio, turned it off. Ah. No more annoying BEEP (which also, by the way, interrupted the song and made it go dkfjdfjlksfjdk for a second, that was technical term, but trust me, it sounded badbadbad.) All better now.
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 07:00:00 PM, Thrasher said...: Hey AG!

I'm still waiting for an answer to my Q!

I need to know about that little round thing you use for little 45 records.

Where should I buy? What's the best kind? Will they work with different turntables?

Should I just get a 45 player? Or maybe there'll be a 33 version someday?

We need answers.

Well, gotta go do some twitterin', friendin', textin', bloggin' stuff.

Maybe I need to try that loner thing...

;)
beep beep
t
At 5/28/2009 07:03:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen-

Glad to hear that you resolved your "beeping" issue.
Now go back to the disc and look for Hidden Tracks.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 07:03:00 PM, karen said...: Haha T.
Neil used to wear a t-shirt with one of those on it, maybe you could ask him if you could have that one.
Wha?
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 07:05:00 PM, Craig said...: Thrasher,
When I purchased my turntable, it came with the 45 adaptor. They will all be the same size and should fit any turntable I would imagine. After all, it's only a little piece of plastic to keep your record in place on the platter. Check with any specialty audio retailer that sells turntables and I would bet they would have them for sale.
At 5/28/2009 07:05:00 PM, karen said...: Oh freaking f- ... The hidden tracks! I forgot all about them. There are hidden tracks on the Preview? Or is this just busy work? Are you pulling my leg? I hate these hidden tracks. Look, they're all practically hidden tracks for me I am so technically challenged.
lovekaren
At 5/28/2009 07:07:00 PM, john said...: Hi Again Archives Guy,

I've taken up your exercise regime,it's a twelve step program(me).

I worked out with the 5 kilo potato sacks,as advised,but they then had the cheek to throw me out of the supermarket. ;0)

A new question ,I need the answer to - is the Archives Volume 1 CD Boxset being released in the UK ,as a domestic release ,oh, font of all knowledge ?

It seeems to be the case,but a normally reliable UK retailler has claimed otherwise.

Thans for everything!
At 5/28/2009 07:12:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Thrasher-

On playing the Squires 45:

If you don't have a 45 adapter or there isn't one with your turntable, ya might check out the needle doctor. He deals them in bulk, so you can share with friends or use as conversation starters.
"What the heck is THAT thing?"

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/45-RPM-Adapters

To play this record correctly, your turntable needs to play at 45RPM.
If you set your platter to spin at 78RPM you will hear "The Chipmunks Play The Squires."
If you choose 33/3RPM, you might wonder when did someone spike your drink with Quaaludes.

The best thing about this record is....IT'S A RECORD!
No setup menus, fancy cables...just like the old days when life was so much easier.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 07:15:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Karen-

Yes, there is at least one Hidden Track on the Preview Disc.

I wouldn't mislead you.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 07:19:00 PM, Thrasher said...: AG,

Dude, I may be a Luddite but I got that spin the black circle thing down.

I guess my own humor on my site sometimes misses the mark.

And the other parts of comment were tongue in cheek as well.

Let's see. The following is irony:
Commenting on my blog that I need to go twitter.

;) <- winkie thing

btw,
go Caps!

t
At 5/28/2009 07:23:00 PM, Edgar said...: I know it was asked, but it wasn't answered:

Why was the 1971 BBC concert overlooked for this project? Does Neil have any plans to release this show in the future?

Thanks!
At 5/28/2009 07:28:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: TW-

I knew that you were joking....that my my sense of humour coming back at ya.
At 5/28/2009 07:32:00 PM, Archives Guy said...: Edgar:

BBC show?
It was considered and then dropped. The program is shown a lot on TV, heavily traded and the clips are the most widely watched Neil Young videos on YouTube.

We have no plans to release it in the future.
I hope to move on to post-1972 materials.

-Archives Guy
At 5/28/2009 07:39:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Hidden as in Roach Clips or...other such things?
Those are fun though :o)
At 5/28/2009 07:50:00 PM, Thrasher said...: omg.

now i've completely lost touch with humor, irony & sarcasm. :(

oh, where is Crackle when you need him?

Karen, please help me with my typing....
At 5/28/2009 08:10:00 PM, Thrasher said...: btw, this thread looks like it might hit 200 comments.

Last time that happened, the thread locked.

So if you got something to say to AG, see the Thank you post above.

good night.

peace & love,
t
At 5/28/2009 08:16:00 PM, Anonymous said...: dread lock- good

thread lock- not good
At 5/28/2009 08:50:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Price for an evening out at a Neil Young concert:

tickets $200 +
parking $20
dinner $100
drinks at the show $30
merchandise $50
babysitter $50
TOTAL---------------$450

duration of experience= 3 hours
---------------------------------------
Price for NYA Blu-ray:

box set $300
player $250
TOTAL---------------$550

duration of experience= ENDLESS
At 5/28/2009 09:14:00 PM, punkdavid said...: Well played, anon.

Considering Neil hasn't played a show anywhere near where I live for over five years, I think I've saved plenty of money to afford the top shelf version of The Archives.

--PunkDavid

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