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Monday, February 08, 2021
"Daughters" by Neil Young - Official Music Video
The Official Music Video for the song "Daughters" byNeil Young from Archives Vol. II is now up on YouTube.
Recorded on December 11, 1974 in Nashville for the album "Homegrown", the song was omitted from the album, but is on Archives Disc #6 "The Old Homestead" as an outtake.
There is some discrepancy as to whether background vocals are Nicolette Larson or Emmylou Harris. Credits indicate Nicolette. But given that Nicolette Larson's first collaboration with Neil Young was in 1977 on "Comes A Time", might it be possible that the vocals were added 3 years later?
Good catch on the discrepancy between singers’ involvement times. I’d taken the Nicolette Larson credit at face value but it would make more sense that Emmylou Harris sang on Daughters. I feel like if the part had been added in ‘77, the track would’ve been saved for Vol. 3. One other comment: these videos are also being added to the NYA file cards around the same time as YouTube. They did the same for Pocahontas, although Reprise mislabeled the YouTube video as the Paradox version.
Lovely to hear this track, as I continue setting aside funds for the box expected to land March 5th. Daughters, to me, sounds like a cousin of Deep Forbidden Lake via Harvest. The mentions of canvases on the water (sails), etc. point to a thematic connection.
Wasn’t there supposedly an album of water-based songs around this time—e.g. Maui Mama/Hawaiian Sunrise. Would like to know more about that project, which presumably didn’t get beyond conceptual stages. It may have been Poncho or a session player from this prolific period who commented that, circa mid-70s, you’d just get called out to a Neil session every now and then, never knowing if or when any of the songs would be released.
I can see why this was left in the can...he's doing a re-hash of the song Harvest, and adding an extra layer to the verse.
If someone knows the answer to this question, please email me. NY has been quality obsessed since his stalling of the Vol. I of his Archives so he could release it on the Blu-Ray format. Then why now, with Archives Vol. II and the Young Shakespeare show is he only releasing on CD or at best (Young S. release) on DVD?
Fans as old as myself wanted to hear Archives in the bast audio possible. He made such a big deal out of it that he obsessed over Pono which was a flop. Who was willing to buy all their music again? Now he's gone 180 and releases only a CD version of the Archives Vol. II. Not only is this a reduction in quality, it's also a way to screw fans out of the footage - live or whatnot that was supposed to come with it.
Unknown, I totally agree with you on this. It’s perplexing, given how quality-obsessed Neil has been, that this set would be released on CD as the only physical format. Videos like the ones for every track on Vol 1 exist and more than half of them are currently available on the website’s song file cards. Hi-res files also exist for each of these songs, but not in a physical format like DVD or Blu-Ray.
Neil said Blu-Ray is not a cost-efficient format to produce, and I think he’s acting on bad information here. Every single movie made comes out on Blu-Ray and these discs crowd the racks at Walmarts across America. Fans want a video edition similar to Vol 1. Hopefully he and Reprise get this at some point and issue some edition of the set on video discs. On the bright side, there is such a wealth of material on neilyoungarchives.com for such a reasonable price, that the box set is essentially an afterthought for the time being. For example, check out the long video that accompanies the Tonight’s The Night sessions. Great stuff!
For Young Shakespeare, the reason they give for DVD being the best quality version available is that the original video quality isn’t worth the resolution of Blu-Ray. Though this claim is dubious if they are working from the original film (not a lossy digital format), I think it is the case that the DVD audio mix is high enough quality to match the Hi-Res files. Also, many will agree that vinyl offers the best fidelity available for listening to Neil Young mixes.
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Good catch on the discrepancy between singers’ involvement times. I’d taken the Nicolette Larson credit at face value but it would make more sense that Emmylou Harris sang on Daughters. I feel like if the part had been added in ‘77, the track would’ve been saved for Vol. 3. One other comment: these videos are also being added to the NYA file cards around the same time as YouTube. They did the same for Pocahontas, although Reprise mislabeled the YouTube video as the Paradox version.
ReplyDeleteLovely to hear this track, as I continue setting aside funds for the box expected to land March 5th. Daughters, to me, sounds like a cousin of Deep Forbidden Lake via Harvest. The mentions of canvases on the water (sails), etc. point to a thematic connection.
ReplyDeleteWasn’t there supposedly an album of water-based songs around this time—e.g. Maui Mama/Hawaiian Sunrise. Would like to know more about that project, which presumably didn’t get beyond conceptual stages. It may have been Poncho or a session player from this prolific period who commented that, circa mid-70s, you’d just get called out to a Neil session every now and then, never knowing if or when any of the songs would be released.
I love the verses in Daughters, but I don't know...the chorus doesn't do it for me...I find myself passing this song by within Volume 2
ReplyDelete@ tomatron - definitely leaning to Emmylou here.
ReplyDeletelikewise, good catch on YouTube video labeling on Pocahontas.
@ Meta Rocker - "a cousin of Deep Forbidden Lake via Harvest."
nice.
yes, believe you're right about water-based songs album.
Sort of like The Bus Crash album. Maybe just an offhand remark.?
@ Jonathan - thanks, yes, the verses do resonate, maybe especially for those who have them?
ps - might you drop us an email sometime, please ? thrasher ATSIGN ThrashersWheat.org
I can see why this was left in the can...he's doing a re-hash of the song Harvest, and adding an extra layer to the verse.
ReplyDeleteIf someone knows the answer to this question, please email me. NY has been quality obsessed since his stalling of the Vol. I of his Archives so he could release it on the Blu-Ray format. Then why now, with Archives Vol. II and the Young Shakespeare show is he only releasing on CD or at best (Young S. release) on DVD?
Fans as old as myself wanted to hear Archives in the bast audio possible. He made such a big deal out of it that he obsessed over Pono which was a flop. Who was willing to buy all their music again? Now he's gone 180 and releases only a CD version of the Archives Vol. II. Not only is this a reduction in quality, it's also a way to screw fans out of the footage - live or whatnot that was supposed to come with it.
Unknown, I totally agree with you on this. It’s perplexing, given how quality-obsessed Neil has been, that this set would be released on CD as the only physical format. Videos like the ones for every track on Vol 1 exist and more than half of them are currently available on the website’s song file cards. Hi-res files also exist for each of these songs, but not in a physical format like DVD or Blu-Ray.
DeleteNeil said Blu-Ray is not a cost-efficient format to produce, and I think he’s acting on bad information here. Every single movie made comes out on Blu-Ray and these discs crowd the racks at Walmarts across America. Fans want a video edition similar to Vol 1. Hopefully he and Reprise get this at some point and issue some edition of the set on video discs. On the bright side, there is such a wealth of material on neilyoungarchives.com for such a reasonable price, that the box set is essentially an afterthought for the time being. For example, check out the long video that accompanies the Tonight’s The Night sessions. Great stuff!
For Young Shakespeare, the reason they give for DVD being the best quality version available is that the original video quality isn’t worth the resolution of Blu-Ray. Though this claim is dubious if they are working from the original film (not a lossy digital format), I think it is the case that the DVD audio mix is high enough quality to match the Hi-Res files. Also, many will agree that vinyl offers the best fidelity available for listening to Neil Young mixes.
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